Cong. Ron Paul today came out denouncing the national ID card in the House of Representatives today. The national ID card is contained in the intelligence bill being voted on along with layers of needless bureaucracy. The Congressman said "National ID cards are not proper in a free society......This is America, not Soviet Russia.

HOR Press Release: READ IT http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2004/pr120704.htm

News flash. If you have a SS card you already have a national ID card.

Ron Paul, republican member of the House of Representatives from the 14th district of Texas, says a police state is headed our way.

When one of our law makers says it -- you can bank on it.

http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2004/tst122004.htm

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Originally posted by Lungdop Philing
When one of our law makers says it -- you can bank on it.

Bank on what a politician says? :@@:

OK Lionel -- let me correct that ..

When a republican politician from Texas says it -- you can bank on it.

Better?

Dop

Originally posted by Echo2
News flash. If you have a SS card you already have a national ID card.

The SS card should be used for only that, social security, not a national ID card. It was the fault of we, the consumer, that allowed the SS card to be used for, of all things, a credit card ID.

Originally posted by Rolader
The SS card should be used for only that, social security, not a national ID card. It was the fault of we, the consumer, that allowed the SS card to be used for, of all things, a credit card ID.

I totally agree. But the military uses it, the credit company's use it, colleges use it, company's and industry's use it for employee tracking, the IRS uses it, etc.

It wasn't meant to be but essentially it has become an American ID card.

The national ID card will be Biometric-RFID and if you don't know what that means, well study up a bit and get back with your then new thoughts on whether you want a national ID.

Dop

Originally posted by Lungdop Philing
The national ID card will be Biometric-RFID and if you don't know what that means, well study up a bit and get back with your then new thoughts on whether you want a national ID.

Dop

Isn't that some kind of retinal identification?

Retina scanning, along with fingerprints is considered bare bones for biometrics today. There is basically no limit to what can and will be included in the national ID, including not only physical information but also personal information such as your credit status, work status, religious affilitation or a complete database describing you down to that freckle on your butt.

The RFID part is scary -- it is a Radio Frequency chip that allows 'big smother' to track every move a person makes.

They may sell this idea by promising not to abuse it's use but we all know this administration is low on credibility at the moment given all the lies we've seen so far ... so ... caveat emptor folks ...

It won't be long until they will be tracking whether you attended church on sunday and how much you tossed into the basket. Don't attend or don't give what they think is enough and it's the Montana gulags for you pard'ner ...

Dop

Originally posted by Lungdop Philing
The national ID card will be Biometric-RFID and if you don't know what that means, well study up a bit and get back with your then new thoughts on whether you want a national ID.

Dop

Many military establishments and banks have been using this technology. Prior to that, it was isolated to James Bond, the Terminator and books by H.G.Wells.

Let's not leave out Aldous Huxley, Sinclair Lewis, Jack London and Rad Bradbury.

Dop

Originally posted by Lungdop Philing
Let's not leave out Aldous Huxley, Sinclair Lewis, Jack London and Rad Bradbury.

Dop

....and heaven forbid if we forget Norman Mailer who was brought before "World Insignia" to recite his confession.

I just read about this..This is scary..
I just knew Homeland Security and the Patriot Act were going to be nothing but trouble.

read.. You Papers Please..
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index575.htm

I want to see the immigration problems under control and I understand this may go along way towards eliminating fraudulent IDs but at what cost ?

You should check and see how the reps in your state voted on this article or see how they respond to another accusation.
"Congress failed to serve the people they represent. 3,000 page document that not one of our elected representatives read all the way through to make sure they were not voting for bad legislation. So in 3 or 4 years, taxpayers will foot the bill for Congress to change or revise some of the bad legislation written into this bill."

Again we foot the bill for the "bill".