Originally posted by Decka
assassin...my post was a reply to OD's post....didnt want any confusion

No confusion here

Overdose: "That’s too bad. Because a man marrying a women who is infertile, is the same as a man marrying a man…in terms of creation. They both can’t reproduce. Period."

It's so much different then that. You're really confused. Maybe if you stopped being shallow and tried to look at the bigger picture than at the small details than you would see that homosexuality is a bad thing

Overdose: "Thanks for your kind and considerate words. You know you could potentially get banned for using such harsh insults? Not to mention all of your little pictures that went along with your insults."

I'm glad you saw those pictures. I think they took them out. What a shame.

Originally posted by Assassin
Maybe if you stopped being shallow and tried to look at the bigger picture than at the small details than you would see that homosexuality is a bad thing

Your mode of argument is that of a five year old.

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Five year old; "Broccoli is BAD!"

Adult: "What does that mean? Why is it "bad"?"

Five year old; "It's BAD because it's YUKKY!"

Adult; "But we can't all just accept that it's "yukky" simply because you think it's yukky. Why do you say it's "yukky"?"

Five year old; "Because I don't like it!"

Adult; Ok. Why don't you like it?"

Five year old; "Because it's BAD!"

Originally posted by Freethinker
Your mode of argument is that of a five year old.

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Five year old; "Broccoli is BAD!"

Adult: "What does that mean? Why is it "bad"?"

Five year old; "It's BAD because it's YUKKY!"

Adult; "But we can't all just accept that it's "yukky" simply because you think it's yukky. Why do you say it's "yukky"?"

Five year old; "Because I don't like it!"

Adult; Ok. Why don't you like it?"

Five year old; "Because it's BAD!"


I love how you wasted your time making a whole scene of a kid not liking broccoli. I'm shure that I have posted a little bit more about homosexuality than "it's yucky".

Originally posted by Assassin
The theory that 'people are born gay' is not proven and far from it. This guy has got it right. No one is born gay.

sorry, but experts now believe that a predisposition to be homosexual develops during the 4th or 5th month of develpoment. there is a book called human sexual behavior, written by dr. king, that explains it in detail.
it also explains that children, as early as 4 or 5 (i think) are sexual beings (not saying they're interested in sex).

Originally posted by Assassin
The theory that 'people are born gay' is not proven and far from it. This guy has got it right. No one is born gay.
Okay, it's not proven that people are born gay. But it's also not proven that people are not born gay. I was merely throwing out possibilities, not saying what is proven.
It's so much different then that. You're really confused. Maybe if you stopped being shallow and tried to look at the bigger picture than at the small details than you would see that homosexuality is a bad thing
Maybe if you read my previous post in this thread you would see how that is not true.

Originally posted by Freethinker
Your mode of argument is that of a five year old.

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Five year old; "Broccoli is BAD!"

Adult: "What does that mean? Why is it "bad"?"

Five year old; "It's BAD because it's YUKKY!"

Adult; "But we can't all just accept that it's "yukky" simply because you think it's yukky. Why do you say it's "yukky"?"

Five year old; "Because I don't like it!"

Adult; Ok. Why don't you like it?"

Five year old; "Because it's BAD!"

You've got to be joking with this shit, FT, for even YOU are above this overly simplified, ass-baggery. A child's opinions are just that: a child's opinions. Some kids don't like broccoli. It doesn't make broccoli bad, it just means they don't like to eat it. The funny thing here is the comparison between broccoli and homosexuality. In one instance, we all know broccoli is packed with vitamins, so parents try to force feed it to their children. In your estimation, homosexuality is good for us, so we should all be forced fed the agenda. Good call, and good comparison, I might add...

Originally posted by The Praetorian
In one instance, we all know broccoli is packed with vitamins, so parents try to force feed it to their children. In your estimation, homosexuality is good for us, so we should all be forced fed the agenda. Good call, and good comparison, I might add...
Speaking of people being above the arguments they make, you're far above this one, Prae. You know damned well he doesn't want to force anyone to be gay.

Originally posted by jennygadling
sorry, but experts now believe that a predisposition to be homosexual develops during the 4th or 5th month of develpoment. there is a book called human sexual behavior, written by dr. king, that explains it in detail.
it also explains that children, as early as 4 or 5 (i think) are sexual beings (not saying they're interested in sex).

It's not proven, we've already talked about it in this thread. It's a 'possability', but nothing has been 'proven'.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Speaking of people being above the arguments they make, you're far above this one, Prae. You know damned well he doesn't want to force anyone to be gay.

"You are gay. hehe" -Homer Simpson

I didn't say he was forcing anyone to be gay, I just was pointing out the fact that he pushes the agenda with a fondness that only Elton John would have.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Speaking of people being above the arguments they make, you're far above this one, Prae. You know damned well he doesn't want to force anyone to be gay.

I like eating broccoli; I don't like eating homos.

Originally posted by Assassin
"You are gay. hehe" -Homer Simpson
Uhhhh, what?
I like eating broccoli; I don't like eating homos.
Okay, you've officially failed to make sense...

Originally posted by The Praetorian
I didn't say he was forcing anyone to be gay, I just was pointing out the fact that he pushes the agenda with a fondness that only Elton John would have.

If you support it, you are pushing the agenda, borghunter.

this post is nothing but agrument

Originally posted by Assassin
If you support it, you are pushing the agenda, borghunter.
If the "homosexual agenda" is equal rights for gays, then I certainly do support it.

Originally posted by Assassin
this post is nothing but agrument
????????????

Originally posted by Assassin
this post is nothing but agrument

No it's not.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
If the "homosexual agenda" is equal rights for gays, then I certainly do support it.

The "agenda" doesn't have to do with equal rights, it has to do with pushing an idea in America's face.

no, this post is a debate of a widely disputed topic; wait, that's the same thing as an argument. well, then, that's what it's hear for!!

Originally posted by flyerES
The "agenda" doesn't have to do with equal rights, it has to do with pushing an idea in America's face.
In that case, the "agenda" does not exist.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
In that case, the "agenda" does not exist.

Yes it does. It's pushed in our faces everyday.

Originally posted by flyerES
Yes it does. It's pushed in our faces everyday.
It's not pushed in my face at all. Give me an example of where it's pushed in yours.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
It's not pushed in my face at all. Give me an example of where it's pushed in yours.

Then you must be BLIND!!

Everyone here seems to be okay with substituting the word "post" for thread...what's up with that???

Originally posted by BorgHunter
It's not pushed in my face at all. Give me an example of where it's pushed in yours.

Wath the news, read the newspapers, listen to the radio, listen to music, follow court cases... if you did these you might see... And as for one obvious one, READ THIS MESSAGE BOARD.... FROM PPL LIKE YOU!!

Originally posted by flyerES
Then you must be BLIND!!
Clarification: Is this a joke? My humor detector is going off, but I can't be sure...

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Clarification: Is this a joke? My humor detector is going off, but I can't be sure...

no, its sarcasm... do you know what that is? And I'm sure you'll reply to this b/c you have something to say about everything.

Originally posted by flyerES
Wath the news
Iraq is all I see.
read the newspapers
More Iraq, some Bucs coverage, and something about life after the hurricanes. No gay anything.
listen to the radio, listen to music
Ooooh, homophobic lyrics! You're right, but in the wrong direction.
follow court cases
Is Scott Peterson gay?
And as for one obvious one, READ THIS MESSAGE BOARD.... FROM PPL LIKE YOU!!
Who's forcing you to go to Allforums? Those damned gays are always putting guns to people's heads and forcing them to go to Allforums, I swear...

Originally posted by BorgHunter
It's not pushed in my face at all. Give me an example of where it's pushed in yours.
Borg, I think the "acceptance pushing" is omnipresent. From the mainstream media, to sitcoms and movies. For a group that represents 5% of the populous, it sure gets its share of media coverage. To me, that shows a societal predilection towards all things gay, and it's starting to piss some people off.

Originally posted by The Praetorian
Borg, I think the "acceptance pushing" is omnipresent. From the mainstream media, to sitcoms and movies. For a group that represents 5% of the populous, it sure gets its share of media coverage. To me, that shows a societal predilection towards all things gay, and it's starting to piss some people off.
Really, the only mainstream sitcom I know of that has a main character who is gay is Will and Grace. Maybe you could count Roseanne, but it's rather old.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
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Iraq is all I see.

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More Iraq, some Bucs coverage, and something about life after the hurricanes. No gay anything.

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listen to the radio, listen to music
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Ooooh, homophobic lyrics! You're right, but in the wrong direction.

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Is Scott Peterson gay?



Thanks for proving my point. You really are blind.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Really, the only mainstream sitcom I know of that has a main character who is gay is Will and Grace. Maybe you could count Roseanne, but it's rather old.

Borg, have you ever heard of Ellen DeGeneres? Just curious as to if you watch television?

Originally posted by flyerES
Thanks for proving my point. You really are blind.
Thanks for proving my point. You really are a self-righteous asshole.

Originally posted by flyerES
Borg, have you ever heard of Ellen DeGeneres? Just curious as to if you watch television?
I'm not sure Ellen's sitcom was really mainstream. I watched it once in my life, and I generally like sitcoms. Her talk show bombed heavily, in any case.

Besides which, the mere presence of gay people on TV (oh no, horror of horrors, gays on TV!) does not indicate the presence of a conspiracy to turn the nation gay or anything like that. Such an idea is asinine.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Thanks for proving my point. You really are a self-righteous asshole.


No, you simply proved my point by saying you don't see anything about gays in the news, radio, newspapers. That's rediculous.

Haters used the same excuse when the slaves were freed. When black men got the vote, when women got the vote, and when the equal rights bill was passed.

They screach about the "insert minority here" lovers and complain that it is being crammed down their throats.

They can't come up with any good reason for something not to change so they whine about it being forced on them.

Grow up. Quit hating people for what they are and get on with your lives. Granting gay people the right to marry will not interfere with your life one little bit. Find something worthwhile to complain about, like taxes or wars or school funding or something that truly will effect your life.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
I'm not sure Ellen's sitcom was really mainstream. I watched it once in my life, and I generally like sitcoms. Her talk show bombed heavily, in any case.

Besides which, the mere presence of gay people on TV (oh no, horror of horrors, gays on TV!) does not indicate the presence of a conspiracy to turn the nation gay or anything like that. Such an idea is asinine.

It was on a broadcast station. Please tell me you know a bit about that. It goes into 99% of Americas households that have TVs. Which is over 75% of America.

Originally posted by Echo2
Haters used the same excuse when the slaves were freed. When black men got the vote, when women got the vote, and when the equal rights bill was passed.

They screach about the "insert minority here" lovers and complain that it is being crammed down their throats.

They can't come up with any good reason for something not to change so they whine about it being forced on them.

Grow up. Quit hating people for what they are and get on with your lives. Granting gay people the right to marry will not interfere with your life one little bit. Find something worthwhile to complain about, like taxes or wars or school funding or something that truly will effect your life.

Again, this issue has nothing to do with race. Get over that as an arguement to this.

Originally posted by flyerES
Again, this issue has nothing to do with race. Get over that as an arguement to this.
You might want to improve your reading comprehension skills a bit. She never said that the crusade to deny rights to gay people is about race. She said that the reasons given between the crusades to deny gay people of their rights and the crusades to deny black people of their rights were similar.

Queer eye for the straight guy, King of Queens (sound's gay), amongst a myriad of others. Check this (http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/TV/9905/17/coming.out/) out.

It was on a broadcast station. Please tell me you know a bit about that. It goes into 99% of Americas households that have TVs. Which is over 75% of America.
Your point?

Originally posted by BorgHunter
I'm not sure Ellen's sitcom was really mainstream. I watched it once in my life, and I generally like sitcoms. Her talk show bombed heavily, in any case.

Besides which, the mere presence of gay people on TV (oh no, horror of horrors, gays on TV!) does not indicate the presence of a conspiracy to turn the nation gay or anything like that. Such an idea is asinine.

Ever heard of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. Yeah, that was a bust. They tried to put that one on NBC, but it failed so it went to Bravo.

Also, Real World (it's entertaining, but they def push the gay agenda on here). I know its on cable and they can put on whatever they want, but it still goes into a lot of households.

So, you really have proven my point here, you are blind and therefore cannot see a television screen... but wait, you must be deaf too b/c you obviously can't hear the speakers of the TV either.

Deaf and dumb.

Originally posted by flyerES
Again, this issue has nothing to do with race. Get over that as an arguement to this.

It is freigtening to think that people with no reading comprehension skills are voting.

Try re-reading what was written. Race was not mentioned as anything other than one of a few examples of how change scared people with little minds.

Originally posted by Echo2
Haters used the same excuse when the slaves were freed. When black men got the vote, when women got the vote, and when the equal rights bill was passed.

They screach about the "insert minority here" lovers and complain that it is being crammed down their throats.

They can't come up with any good reason for something not to change so they whine about it being forced on them.

Grow up. Quit hating people for what they are and get on with your lives. Granting gay people the right to marry will not interfere with your life one little bit. Find something worthwhile to complain about, like taxes or wars or school funding or something that truly will effect your life.

echo, i couldn't agree more. let's focus on the idiots that are selling drugs to kids and the ones that murder innocent people; you know, the ones who actually pose a threat to society.

Originally posted by flyerES
Ever heard of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. Yeah, that was a bust. They tried to put that one on NBC, but it failed so it went to Bravo.

Also, Real World (it's entertaining, but they def push the gay agenda on here). I know its on cable and they can put on whatever they want, but it still goes into a lot of households.

So, you really have proven my point here, you are blind and therefore cannot see a television screen... but wait, you must be deaf too b/c you obviously can't hear the speakers of the TV either.

Deaf and dumb.
Why the fuck aren't you gay yet?!

Originally posted by flyerES
Ever heard of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. Yeah, that was a bust. They tried to put that one on NBC, but it failed so it went to Bravo.

Also, Real World (it's entertaining, but they def push the gay agenda on here). I know its on cable and they can put on whatever they want, but it still goes into a lot of households.

So, you really have proven my point here, you are blind and therefore cannot see a television screen... but wait, you must be deaf too b/c you obviously can't hear the speakers of the TV either.

Deaf and dumb.
I'm going to give up on this argument, because A) you refuse to even consider what I'm saying, and B) it doesn't really matter. If you are using the supposed presence of a "homosexual agenda" to deny gays rights, then your logic skills could use some fine-tuning.

Originally posted by Blibblob
It was on a broadcast station. Please tell me you know a bit about that. It goes into 99% of Americas households that have TVs. Which is over 75% of America.
Your point?

the agenda is pushed in our faces... try reading the previous posts as to why we are arguing. We have another deaf and dumb one.

the agenda is pushed in our faces... try reading the previous posts as to why we are arguing. We have another deaf and dumb one.
YOUR POINT?! We know it's NOT, acknowledging something EXISTS means nothing. Three damn shows mean nothing also, especially when compared with the number of homophobe TV shows. YOU MAKE NO SENSE!

Originally posted by flyerES
the agenda is pushed in our faces... try reading the previous posts as to why we are arguing. We have another deaf and dumb one.
Okay, this example changed my mind rather quickly on giving up. It is NOT pushed in your face. If you don't want to see gay people, never go on the Internet or watch TV, or go outside, because guess what? GAY PEOPLE EXIST. Get over it.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
I'm going to give up on this argument, because A) you refuse to even consider what I'm saying, and B) it doesn't really matter. If you are using the supposed presence of a "homosexual agenda" to deny gays rights, then your logic skills could use some fine-tuning.

So I prove your point wrong as to gay rights being pushed in America's face on mainstream media and you give up (through the many examples prae and I gave). That's cool. Looks like I win. Thanks, I'm outta here.

Originally posted by Blibblob
the agenda is pushed in our faces... try reading the previous posts as to why we are arguing. We have another deaf and dumb one.
YOUR POINT?! We know it's NOT, acknowledging something EXISTS means nothing. Three damn shows mean nothing also, especially when compared with the number of homophobe TV shows. YOU MAKE NO SENSE!

I make perfect sense. You have the mind of a 2 year old.

Originally posted by flyerES
So I prove your point wrong as to gay rights being pushed in America's face on mainstream media and you give up (through the many examples prae and I gave). That's cool. Looks like I win. Thanks, I'm outta here.
Okay JACKASS, if you think my giving up on arguing with your blind ass is "proving my point wrong", then you really should go take a concrete brick, drive to the nearest bridge, chain yourself to the brick, and toss it over, and thus do the gene pool a huge favor.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Okay, this example changed my mind rather quickly on giving up. It is NOT pushed in your face. If you don't want to see gay people, never go on the Internet or watch TV, or go outside, because guess what? GAY PEOPLE EXIST. Get over it.

You have to draw the line somewhere and that line is no gay marriage... Do whatever you want in the privacy of your own home. I don't care. But I don't wanna see anything outside of your house. No posters, TV shows, andtying on the radio. Get it out of our faces!!

Originally posted by flyerES
It was on a broadcast station. Please tell me you know a bit about that. It goes into 99% of Americas households that have TVs. Which is over 75% of America.

you're right; there are more programs involving homosexuals on tv today than ever before.
however...you don't hear any gay people complaining when yet another show about straight people (which, almost always, include sexual situations) begins airing.

I make perfect sense. You have the mind of a 2 year old.
No, you don't make sense. Pointing out three televesion shows is not them shoving it in our faces. Acknowledging something exists is not pushing anything. Some gay people getting JOBS is not shoving it in our faces. Even if it was being shoved in our faces, YOUR POINT? What the fuck does it matter? Do you even know what the hell you're saying? Read through what you said, does that make ANY sense? NO, you have the comprehension skills and critical thinking level of a FETUS.

Thanks, I'm outta here.
Thank God's fucking whore!

Originally posted by flyerES
You have to draw the line somewhere and that line is no gay marriage... Do whatever you want in the privacy of your own home. I don't care. But I don't wanna see anything outside of your house. No posters, TV shows, andtying on the radio. Get it out of our faces!!
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Okay JACKASS, if you think my giving up on arguing with your blind ass is "proving my point wrong", then you really should go take a concrete brick, drive to the nearest bridge, chain yourself to the brick, and toss it over, and thus do the gene pool a huge favor.

I'm not the blind one, you are... that was the point.

You said it's not on mainstream TV. Prae and I came up with 5 examples within minutes. You were wrong, I was right. Just admit it.

Originally posted by flyerES
You have to draw the line somewhere and that line is no gay marriage... Do whatever you want in the privacy of your own home. I don't care. But I don't wanna see anything outside of your house. No posters, TV shows, andtying on the radio. Get it out of our faces!!

ever think maybe gay people feel the same way about what straight people force into their faces??

Originally posted by jennygadling
you're right; there are more programs involving homosexuals on tv today than ever before.
however...you don't hear any gay people complaining when yet another show about straight people (which, almost always, include sexual situations) begins airing.

B/c straight is normal.

You have to draw the line somewhere and that line is no gay marriage... Do whatever you want in the privacy of your own home. I don't care. But I don't wanna see anything outside of your house. No posters, TV shows, andtying on the radio. Get it out of our faces!!
Then no heterosexual marriage. No heterosexual topics spoken about in posters, TV shows, and on the radio. Get that out of our faces. Double standards? Most certainly. God I hope you never have children...

You said it's not on mainstream TV. Prae and I came up with 5 examples within minutes. You were wrong, I was right. Just admit it.
It's not being shoved in our faces.

Originally posted by flyerES
I'm not the blind one, you are... that was the point.

You said it's not on mainstream TV. Prae and I came up with 5 examples within minutes. You were wrong, I was right. Just admit it.
I never said that. Of course gay people are on mainstream TV. Will & Grace shows that. I said that the presence of gays on TV does not indicate a conspiracy or agenda of shoving it in anyone's face.

Originally posted by jennygadling
ever think maybe gay people feel the same way about what straight people force into their faces??

No b/c we don't force anything in there faces. Its always been a straight world, it always will be. Are you saying you can't see gay people pushing things in others faces just to make rediculous points??

Originally posted by flyerES
B/c straight is normal.
Then anyone who is not of an average height & weight, white, medium build, brown hair, blue eyes, is married (divorced once in the past), has 2.5 kids, a dog, and a cat offends you?

No b/c we don't force anything in there faces. Its always been a straight world, it always will be. Are you saying you can't see gay people pushing things in others faces just to make rediculous points??
No. How are they shoving it in our faces again? This still doesn't make sense. There are TV shows, and such with gay people. How is that shoving it in our faces? Why am I not gay?!

Originally posted by flyerES
B/c straight is normal.

says who? society? the same society that once said blacks and women were inferior? what makes something normal?

Originally posted by Blibblob
flyerES: It was on a broadcast station. Please tell me you know a bit about that. It goes into 99% of Americas households that have TVs. Which is over 75% of America.
Your point?

I don't think his point has to be anymore valid than yours. He's sick of seeing the shit, and quite frankly, so am I. Does that make us bigots? The answer is no, it doesn't. I'm quite tolerant, but I've just about reached my limits, and this is an area that continually tests my patience because of mainstream America's relentless pursuit of gay acceptance dosed with a side of infatuation. Some of us don't care, and don't want to see it because WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. Please don't make your sexual preference our business via ANY MEDIA COVERAGE.

Originally posted by flyerES
No b/c we don't force anything in there faces. Its always been a straight world, it always will be. Are you saying you can't see gay people pushing things in others faces just to make rediculous points??
Don't try and tell me that you're not trying to force heterosexuality in my face. If you exclude gay people entirely from TV but think that a straight couple kissing on TV is A-OK, then you are pushing a double standard. And you ARE trying to push heterosexuality in my face.

Btw, it's spelled "ridiculous".

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Then anyone who is not of an average height & weight, white, medium build, brown hair, blue eyes, is married (divorced once in the past), has 2.5 kids, a dog, and a cat offends you?

You're being an extremist... I can do that too. Let's allow you to marry an elephant. It's equal rights, right?? You have to draw a line.

Thanks for the spelling correction... you're awesome.

I don't think his point has to be anymore valid than yours. He's sick of seeing the shit, and quite frankly, so am I. Does that make us bigots? The answer is no, it doesn't. I'm quite tolerant, but I've just about reached my limits, and this is an area that continually tests my patience because of mainstream America's relentless pursuit of gay acceptance dosed with a side of infatuation. Some of us don't care, and don't want to see it because WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. Please don't make your sexual preference our business via ANY MEDIA COVERAGE.
TURN OFF THE FUCKING TV! I don't like seeing fat black chicks dancing around ugly gold teethed morons! I TURN OFF THE TV. I don't like seeing idiotic religious assholes trying to convert me. I LEAVE. I don't like listening to Rush Blowhard open his mouth. I TURN OFF THE RADIO. I don't like watching interracial sex. I turn off the TV. Try that sometime, homosexuality exists. DEAL.

Originally posted by The Praetorian
I don't think his point has to be anymore valid than yours. He's sick of seeing the shit, and quite frankly, so am I. Does that make us bigots? The answer is no, it doesn't. I'm quite tolerant, but I've just about reached my limits, and this is an area that continually tests my patience because of mainstream America's relentless pursuit of gay acceptance dosed with a side of infatuation. Some of us don't care, and don't want to see it because WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. Please don't make your sexual preference our business via ANY MEDIA COVERAGE.
The only reason gays are getting media coverage is because they want to marry and also adopt kids, and for the most part, they can't. Once you let gay become normal, you'll see a gradual decline in the amount of media coverage they get. You'll end up never seeing "Gays blah blah" except on very special occasions, just like you never see "Blacks want to marry!" now on the news. Once you accept it, it will quiet down.

Originally posted by Blibblob
No b/c we don't force anything in there faces. Its always been a straight world, it always will be. Are you saying you can't see gay people pushing things in others faces just to make rediculous points??
No. How are they shoving it in our faces again? This still doesn't make sense. There are TV shows, and such with gay people. How is that shoving it in our faces? Why am I not gay?!

god forbid we have to see another homo on tv. how dare they? how can i explain that sort of smut to my kids? i'd much rather view a nice, straight program; nothing but sex and violence. much better!

Originally posted by jennygadling
says who? society? the same society that once said blacks and women were inferior? what makes something normal?

Its not a race issue. You can't control your color. Its about sex. You can control when, where, and how you have sex(how, when, and where you push other people to be aware of it also)

Its not a race issue. You can't control your color. Its about sex. You can control when, where, and how you have sex(how, when, and where you push other people to be aware of it also)
Can you control who you're attracted to? Because THAT's the issue. Not where people have sex. It's with WHO.

Originally posted by flyerES
You're being an extremist
Oh no I'm not, I'm pointing out how absurd your argument is. Being 6'8" is very abnormal, yet I bet you have no problems with basketball games being aired on TV. Similarly, being gay is abnormal, but you think they should never be on TV. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth, dancing around the fact that you just don't like gay people.
I can do that too. Let's allow you to marry an elephant. It's equal rights, right?? You have to draw a line.
When you can demonstrate that elephants are intelligent enough to consent to marriage and understand the ramifications of it, then I will support elephants' right to marry. Until then, no.

Originally posted by Blibblob
I don't think his point has to be anymore valid than yours. He's sick of seeing the shit, and quite frankly, so am I. Does that make us bigots? The answer is no, it doesn't. I'm quite tolerant, but I've just about reached my limits, and this is an area that continually tests my patience because of mainstream America's relentless pursuit of gay acceptance dosed with a side of infatuation. Some of us don't care, and don't want to see it because WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. Please don't make your sexual preference our business via ANY MEDIA COVERAGE.
TURN OFF THE FUCKING TV! I don't like seeing fat black chicks dancing around ugly gold teethed morons! I TURN OFF THE TV. I don't like seeing idiotic religious assholes trying to convert me. I LEAVE. I don't like listening to Rush Blowhard open his mouth. I TURN OFF THE RADIO. I don't like watching interracial sex. I turn off the TV. Try that sometime, homosexuality exists. DEAL. '

But I want to watch TV, 2 year old!! So I'll make it so I can without having to see the gay agenda pushed in my face when I turn channels.

Originally posted by flyerES
Its not a race issue. You can't control your color. Its about sex. You can control when, where, and how you have sex(how, when, and where you push other people to be aware of it also)

yep. so why is it ok for a straight couple to hold hands, kiss, etc. in public and make out on tv, but gay couples have to do it "in the privacy of their own homes"?

But I want to watch TV, 2 year old!! So I'll make it so I can without having to see the gay agenda pushed in my face when I turn channels.
Well there's your problem. You want to watch TV... knew there was something inherently wrong with you...
Well, what you want is never going to happen. And that comment was one of the most anti-American comments I've ever heard.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Oh no I'm not, I'm pointing out how absurd your argument is. Being 6'8" is very abnormal, yet I bet you have no problems with basketball games being aired on TV. Similarly, being gay is abnormal, but you think they should never be on TV. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth, dancing around the fact that you just don't like gay people.

When you can demonstrate that elephants are intelligent enough to consent to marriage and understand the ramifications of it, then I will support elephants' right to marry. Until then, no.

So you're telling me someone can't marry someone they love and care about so dearly. Monkey's are pretty intelligent. How about you marry one of those.

So you're telling me someone can't marry someone they love and care about so dearly. Monkey's are pretty intelligent. How about you marry one of those.
No. You are. And good job skipping his POINT. Which was in the first part. You do that a lot. I wonder why in the hell you think you win when you IGNORE half of what people say.

Originally posted by flyerES
But I want to watch TV, 2 year old!! So I'll make it so I can without having to see the gay agenda pushed in my face when I turn channels.
Watch Fox News for your news and schedule your TV-watching around the "evil gay shows". Or, use the parental controls on your TV to block out anything with sexual themes, you can do that with the V-chip. Or, watch only Fox News and stations like ABC Family, which do not have homosexuality. Or, make your own, no-gays-allowed channel...I mean, this is America, right?

Originally posted by Blibblob
But I want to watch TV, 2 year old!! So I'll make it so I can without having to see the gay agenda pushed in my face when I turn channels.
Well there's your problem. You want to watch TV... knew there was something inherently wrong with you...
Well, what you want is never going to happen. And that comment was one of the most anti-American comments I've ever heard.

Anti-American?? Hmmm... Bilbo's logic, there it flies away again. American's with TVs-99%. People watch TV and are influenced by it. With you're example on just don't watch it, you can't do that with broadcast media, that's why we have the FCC. Don't be a dope and stop doin' dope, crackhead.

Originally posted by flyerES
So you're telling me someone can't marry someone they love and care about so dearly. Monkey's are pretty intelligent. How about you marry one of those.
As Blib said, you skipped half my point. Besides which, monkeys still aren't intelligent enough to understand what marriage is.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Watch Fox News for your news and schedule your TV-watching around the "evil gay shows". Or, use the parental controls on your TV to block out anything with sexual themes, you can do that with the V-chip. Or, watch only Fox News and stations like ABC Family, which do not have homosexuality. Or, make your own, no-gays-allowed channel...I mean, this is America, right?

Gotta draw the line on broadcast TV. Period.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
As Blib said, you skipped half my point. Besides which, monkeys still aren't intelligent enough to understand what marriage is.

Well, I'm sure bilbo and you could enlighten them...hell you could all three get married. You bliblo and a freakin' moneky.

Originally posted by flyerES
Anti-American?? Hmmm... Bilbo's logic, there it flies away again. American's with TVs-99%. People watch TV and are influenced by it. With you're example on just don't watch it, you can't do that with broadcast media, that's why we have the FCC. Don't be a dope and stop doin' dope, crackhead.
Yes you can, just turn off your damned TV and there you go, no evil gays influencing you. If you don't like something, don't partake in it, it's that simple. Why do you have to bend everything to your tastes, hmm?

Anti-American?? Hmmm... Bilbo's logic, there it flies away again. American's with TVs-99%. People watch TV and are influenced by it. With you're example on just don't watch it, you can't do that with broadcast media, that's why we have the FCC. Don't be a dope and stop doin' dope, crackhead.
Yes. Anti-American. Let's CENSOR people. Let's SHOVE what I think in other peoples faces, and when they try to say something, we'll SILENCE THEM. Let's strip the liberties of a portion of our country. Let's ignore every bounding the Constution has on our government! Influenced by TV? Again, WHY AM I NOT GAY?! Also, only IDIOTS are influenced by TV. Are you admiting that you're an idiot? Why can't we just not watch it? Too fat to get up and change the chanel? Channel changer a foot away? OH MY GODS! I can't reach the chanel changer, I must BAN what's on TV!


Gotta draw the line on broadcast TV. Period.
WHY?!

Originally posted by flyerES
Gotta draw the line on broadcast TV. Period.
No you don't; read the First Amendment.
Well, I'm sure bilbo and you could enlighten them...hell you could all three get married. You bliblo and a freakin' moneky.
Cripes, you STILL ignored my point! You really are an idiot...

Originally posted by Blibblob
So you're telling me someone can't marry someone they love and care about so dearly. Monkey's are pretty intelligent. How about you marry one of those.
No. You are. And good job skipping his POINT. Which was in the first part. You do that a lot. I wonder why in the hell you think you win when you IGNORE half of what people say.

I win b/c I proved a point wrong. Borg lost b/c he tried to make a point. You're useless if you don't understand this bilbo.

I win b/c I proved a point wrong. Borg lost b/c he tried to make a point. You're useless if you don't understand this bilbo.
You never proved his point wrong! YOU NEVER SPOKE ABOUT IT. Saying you proved it wrong means NOTHING. Holy shit, you're probably the biggest idiot this board has seen in a LONG time.

Originally posted by flyerES
I win b/c I proved a point wrong. Borg lost b/c he tried to make a point. You're useless if you don't understand this bilbo.
A) You proved nothing wrong. B) You ignored what I said anyway, so you can hardly prove what I said wrong. C) If you keep responding to only parts of what I say, I'm going to do the same to you and see how you like it.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
No you don't; read the First Amendment.

Cripes, you STILL ignored my point! You really are an idiot...

Yes you do have to draw a line. It goes back to Vietnam when they were televising footage of the war. They were showing people getting shot in the head. Their has to be a line drawn w/ everything, otherwise things go out of control and their are no more rules.

bilbo, just marry a monkey. teach him what marriage is. i know you can do it. you already speak monkey language.

Flyer - You sure do get nuts when discussing gay tv shows and other gay issues. Do you think they are going to turn you gay or proseletize to your children? Just what the heck scares you so much about giving gays equal rights?

Originally posted by flyerES
Yes you do have to draw a line. It goes back to Vietnam when they were televising footage of the war. They were showing people getting shot in the head. Their has to be a line drawn w/ everything, otherwise things go out of control and their are no more rules.
Look, if you don't like it, don't watch it. Otherwise, respect the laws of this country and stop advocating infringing on the rights of others.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
A) You proved nothing wrong. B) You ignored what I said anyway, so you can hardly prove what I said wrong. C) If you keep responding to only parts of what I say, I'm going to do the same to you and see how you like it.

Your point = the agenda is not pushed on TV (you asked me to give you examples to prove it).

My point = it is and you got 5 examples of how(this proved it is in our face on broadcast TV).

I win, you lose.

Originally posted by flyerES
Your point = the agenda is not pushed on TV (you asked me to give you examples to prove it).

My point = it is and you got 5 examples of how(this proved it is in our face on broadcast TV).

I win, you lose.
You gave me 5 examples of the presence of gay people on TV. Not the same as "pushing" something in someone's face. Again, gay people exist, get over it.

Originally posted by flyerES
Your point = the agenda is not pushed on TV (you asked me to give you examples to prove it).
If you cannot accept that homosexuality is apart of our society and culture, that’s not our problem.

Originally posted by flyerES
My point = it is and you got 5 examples of how(this proved it is in our face on broadcast TV).
And there is countless heterosexual ads on TV, so you are even more-so pushing that in the faces of homosexuals. Stop PUSHING THE HETEROSEXUAL AGENDA!! Rawww!

Originally posted by flyerES
I win, you lose.
Yay! You win! What do you get?

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Look, if you don't like it, don't watch it. Otherwise, respect the laws of this country and stop advocating infringing on the rights of others.

You can't say "if you don't like it, don't watch it" for broadcast television. You can say that for cable though. Broadcast television is just like what you see walking down the street. Its public. That's why we have the FCC. I'm actually advocating the laws of this country.

Originally posted by Overdose



Yay! You win! What do you get?

I get a freakin' cookie dumbass.