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Echo2
12-15-2004, 10:38 AM
Trav, I thought you'd enjoy this....

Getting Out of Iraq: A Letter to the US Peace Movement
by Mike Kress

America is now enmeshed, much like Israel, in a spiraling cycle of violence. For the sake of Iraq’s people and our nation’s future – and for the benefit of all humanity – we must end the occupation of Iraq. The question is, how?

Gene Sharp, a leading nonviolence educator and author of The Politics of Nonviolent Action, teaches that change is possible when a movement adopts a strategy that undermines a regime’s “pillars of support.” The Bush regime’s pillar of support in Iraq is the military. The peace movement’s adoption of a strategy that reduces first time military enlistments and the number of current service members willing to serve in Iraq could make the occupation unsustainable.

Nearly two years after the invasion of Iraq the military is increasingly unable to maintain ideal personnel levels. Longer deployments away from home, activation of guard and reserve units for unconscionable lengths of time, and poor after-service treatment has angered Iraq veterans and diminished military morale. The illegality of the war in Iraq, its foundation upon a web of lies, the immoral occupation, and the unceasing casualty toll has also convinced fewer men and women to pass through a recruiter’s door.

Only by involuntarily extending service contracts, activating guard or reserve personnel (many of whom haven’t served for years), and lowering the standards for new recruits can the military maintain its present capability. In reality these stopgap measures are limited in their efficacy and the signs of a strained military are starting to show.

Approximately 5,500 service members have been classified as deserters since the invasion of Iraq. Some have fled to Canada and three of them are engaged in high profile immigration hearings as they plead for asylum. Conscientious objector applications are up, some branches aren’t meeting recruiting quotas, and re-enlistments aren’t meeting ideal levels. The Pentagon is tapping the Individual Ready Reserves for critical skills, such as those in the medical field.

In December reports surfaced about service members refusing to deploy to Iraq, a soldier publicly challenged Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld about vehicle armor, and lawsuits were filed by reservists against the military for involuntary extensions of their active duty. Military family members are steadily organizing to get their loved ones home. We’ve read stories of veterans being maltreated by the military and VA after getting wounded or separating from the service, and homeless advocates are now sounding the alarm about Iraq veterans showing up in homeless shelters.

All the above is gradually encroaching on the consciousness of the American public. Students and peace groups across the country are discussing and planning what to do in the event of a draft, and even the lax corporate news media have taken some notice of the deterioration of our military and the situation in Iraq.

If the peace movement organizes and pursues a specific strategy to reduce the recruitment and retention of men and women available for military service, the sustainability of the occupation will reach a tipping point. Of course this will take time, and anger patriotic-minded people. There will be charges of treason and endangering the troops. However, this illegal war and occupation itself is treason, and our troops are already endangered.

To be effective this strategy must reach two populations: the military and youth under 24.

Peace and justice groups should mobilize to assist military members in applying for conscientious objector status, and arrange legal assistance for military members who are prosecuted for refusing to serve or deploy. We should dedicate ourselves to helping military personnel and their families leave the country to avoid deployment or continued military service.

We must also encourage military members to examine the occupation and question why we’re there, and help them understand that our presence in Iraq involves war crimes (e.g. the invasion, destruction of Falluja, Abu Ghraib). We can help soldiers, sailors, marines, and airmen become aware of their obligation to refuse orders that violate international law – including orders that deploy them to support the occupation.

By appealing to youth susceptible to recruitment we can help them refuse to enlist in a military that’s being used illegally and immorally. In the process they can become active citizens who realize that we’re all responsible for the bloodshed in Iraq. By appealing to the compassion of our youth we can penetrate apathy and denial, persuade them that supporting our troops means getting them back home, and convince them that opposing the occupation is a moral act.

As we employ tactics such as letters to the editor, leafleting, op-ed writing, pickets near recruiting offices, and organizing in every high school and college, we will seek to generate sympathy for those who refuse to enlist and those who refuse to serve in Iraq. As more men and women find the courage to refuse the peace movement can “frame the debate” in favor of immediate U.S. withdrawal. Should there be a draft the incidences of refusal will escalate dramatically. Soon every American will confront the consequences of our foray into Iraq and ask if it’s worth the price.

The end of the occupation can then begin.

Lungdop Philing
12-15-2004, 11:26 AM
Great article -- thanks for posting it.

Dop

Travh20
12-15-2004, 12:41 PM
I am sure Osama would be proud of your efforts to rid the holy land of the infidels

Freethinker
12-15-2004, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
I am sure Osama would be proud of your efforts to rid the holy land of the infidels

:rolleyes: :mad: :rolleyes:

Not half as proud as he (Osama) is of Gee Dubbya for playing right into the hands of terrorists worldwide in starting an illegal, unecessary war that has killed over 1000 more Americans, and that will likely cripple the US economy.

Travh20
12-15-2004, 12:54 PM
ya, they got us right where they want us right?

Brooks
12-15-2004, 01:07 PM
The peace movement lacks the passion of the peace movement of the 60's because many of the participants then were actually afraid of being drafted. This is more like "the anti-Bush movement." It's fun to rant and rave, but if it means leaving the house or typing a letter, you're not going to get much participation

(This "journalist" finished a 2001 article with the phrase "What America needs is Vincente Fox.)

Overdose
12-15-2004, 02:23 PM
Brooks...were you under a rock when all the protests happened after the war started? hahaha

The Praetorian
12-15-2004, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by Freethinker
Not half as proud as he (Osama) is of Gee Dubbya for playing right into the hands of terrorists worldwide in starting an illegal, unecessary war that has killed over 1000 more Americans, and that will likely cripple the US economy.

And coming from someone who hates America, what the fuck do you care? :mad:

Just what is it exactly - are you afraid you'll lose your cushy job and safe home? I doubt it, so STFU.

Freethinker
12-15-2004, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by The Praetorian
And coming from someone who hates America, what the fuck do you care? :mad:

I don't hate it.

I just hate the fact that it's filled with, and being destroyed by, the many millions of people who --like you-- are enamored of the current RepubliFascist political system.

Originally posted by The Praetorian
STFU.

Translated:--- "I'm sorry, but I simply cannot address the issue you've raised and still remain loyal to the GOP-supported mantra of "Bush is never wrong". Instead, I'll just cover my eyes, wave the flag madly and pretend everything is perfectly fine, thus maintaining face while avoiding having to defend the wrongheaded actions of the politicos in question."

Decka
12-16-2004, 11:26 PM
LOL...i laughed at the post that said W. is playing "right into the hands of terrorists"

did you NOT know that most high ranking terrorist operatives are captured? While they may have more grass-roots level support....they have MUCH fewer teeth than they used to.

and its my thinking that liberals will protest ANY military conflict as long as its started by a republican president....just my point of view.

And freethinker......Prae did respond to your comment...just with the use of sarcasm, in case you didnt pick it up. He's saying stop whining and bitching, you have a good life compared to everyone else in the world, hense the "cushy job and safe home" comment.....dont take quotes out of context......i could do a number on you.

Originally posted by Freethinker
I hate millions of people

DaveTooner
12-16-2004, 11:29 PM
and its my thinking that liberals will protest ANY military conflict as long as its started by a republican president....just my point of view.

So true.

Overdose
12-16-2004, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by DaveTooner
So true.
Okay....didn't a Democrat start the Vietnam war? I'm not 100% sure, but I think so...and if that's true...we sure as hell protested against that war.

Decka
12-16-2004, 11:49 PM
Maybe i stand corrected....so war is ALWAYS a bad thing, and nothing good can come from a war?

Overdose
12-17-2004, 12:01 AM
World War I and II we supported. Ooops. you stand corrected again.

Decka
12-17-2004, 12:18 AM
yea...but look at how many americans died in WW1 and WWII....why is it okay for them to die then and not now?

dont speak too soon, you're getting a tad ahead of yourself

DaveTooner
12-17-2004, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by Overdose
Okay....didn't a Democrat start the Vietnam war? I'm not 100% sure, but I think so...and if that's true...we sure as hell protested against that war.

He didn't say you supported all military action started by Democrats. He just said that you opposed all military action by Republicans.

The Praetorian
12-17-2004, 10:43 AM
Decka - You see, it doesn't matter. Because the history books have shown the outcome WW2 to be favorable, today's modern liberal wouldn't argue that the Second World War wasn't a necessary evil. Instead, they'll focus their energy on the current situation in Iraq while not being able to see the real problem from beyond the scope of their noses. Never mind the fact that this country wasn't inundated with political correctness and racial unity in the 1940's, we fought together, and that's the point our comrade, OD, was trying to make. That won't happen anymore because what unified us at one time during prior conflicts is simply MIA currently. Do you really think the Pledge of Allegiance was an issue for schools in 1940? How about manger scenes in front of courthouses? Back then we knew we were a Christian nation, and we fought because there was an unifying identity, and the problem I have with today's liberal is that they want to rob us of any identity by making us a land of little Asia and Europe. They're doing so because they think it embodies true freedom, and I understand their perspective, but they fail to see that no one wants to fight for something they can't define, and we simply can't define America anymore. If anything is going to destroy this nation, it's going to be the cancer of the crusading, modern day liberal.

Echo2
12-17-2004, 10:53 AM
I think it has to do with people getting smarter and not being as easily swayed as they used to be.

People are putting their moral code ahead of their patriotism. If one truly believes something is imoral thery don't do it. PERIOD.

The Praetorian
12-17-2004, 11:25 AM
People aren't any "smarter" now then they were then. As a matter of fact, I think quite the contrary. People today are privy to more news and information, but general education has gone to shit, and as proof if it - kids can't do simple long division without a calculator, reading and comprehension skills are abysmal, at best, and today's children can't even properly identify a salad fork from a dinner fork. Kids nowadays speak using a "black" vernacular because it's cool, and parents could give a shit. We live in a society of broken marriages, and you say, "People are putting their moral code ahead of their patriotism"??? I'm sorry, but I’m not buying it...

Echo2
12-17-2004, 12:07 PM
I think you and I live in very different places. More students are attending college than ever before. Less students are dropping out than ever before. I agree that we have many schools that are failing. But we also have many that are not failing. I find few teens talking in "black vernacular". And erven if they did I don't think we should be grading teens intellegence by their vernacular. I grew up saying "cool, groovy, bozo, awesome" etc. Teens grow out of that. It is a phase they gothrough.

For the most part I think people are much more cabable of individual thought and sequential thinking than they were in the forties and fifties. Unfortunately the news reports on only the failing schools and the unsocial behavior of young people instead of the good schools and the great things young people are doing.

The Praetorian
12-17-2004, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by Echo2
I think you and I live in very different places. More students are attending college than ever before.
Well that depends on whether or not you grew up in an affluent neighborhood with an excellent tax base and great public education. Most of the families in my old community are married with two or three children, and have combined incomes around the 300,000-dollar mark. Those are the families that tend to send their children off to schools that are noteworthy. The problem, as I see it, are in the areas surrounding my old neighborhood. They seem to be slipping into the modus operandi of bread and butter America, and that's a plague in which is doing damage to this country at an unprecedented rate. The kids who post on this board are amazing in my opinion. They're certainly the exception to the rule in which I'm placing here as a barometer for our success. I don't know where you're from exactly, but I'd be willing to bet that our public education varied greatly. I'm 27 years old, and that puts me at a closer age to the youth of today than you. I see these problems as omnipresent, and despite the current college enrollment, public education isn't getting any better, and that's a fact. Students from Sweden, Germany, England, and France know our nation's history better than the average 18 year-old here. Tack on mathematics, science, nature, philosophy, and literature, and we’ve effectively lost the competition. Look up the aptitude scores if you don’t believe me.
Originally posted by Echo2
I don't think we should be grading teens intellegence by their vernacular. I grew up saying "cool, groovy, bozo, awesome" etc. Teens grow out of that. It is a phase they gothrough.
I agree with this, to a degree, but I have difficulty believing that if intelligent teens are using such grammatically poor syntax, they don't see their actions as ignorant. Since when is ignorance cool? What you described as words or phrases aren't a complete bastardization of the English language, they're words or phrases. Big difference…