What would you do if you were a closeted eighteen-year old senior in high school and your principal told your parents that you were gay? That recently happened to James Barnett, who was a senior at Trinity Christian Academy in Dallas, Texas.

It all started, when a young gay personal site decided to start charging for their service. He knew this would hurt the anonymity usually provided. "You have me and 50,000 other gay teens out there, who don't want their parents to know anything is up and a credit card statement saying XY.com Magazine would be a little obvious." He knew this would make people less likely to use the site. "When they released this greed campaign I said this isn't right, kids who struggle with this and need some kind of help won't pay money."

Being able to talk to other gay teens on-line had provided James with support when he was questioning. "The site to me meant a great deal, as it had probably saved my life; it gave me people who were going through the same thing and we could talk. I could finally come out of my shell. So I created a free service that would give teens an outlet; stray away from drugs, suicide, alcoholism, etc."

So with the best of intentions James, a talented web programmer, started My-Boi.com. It went off well, and three months later he had over fifteen-hundred members. "I have personally received countless e-mails from teenagers who are experiencing what I was nine months ago, and say that this site helped!" Three months later, things changed.

A snoopy kid at school told several heads in the administration that James was gay and ran a gay-themed website. He was called into the office and grilled about the site and his sexual orientation. After the discussion James asked the principle repeatedly not to inform his parents. "I again emphasized and I explicitly said, 'I am 18, I reserve the right for my parents not to know and I do not want them involved.'"

What happens next?

"The first people I see to walk in the door are my mother and my father. This is where I bury my head in my hands and don't really know what to do, how to respond - I for the first time in my life have never felt that betrayed and first time I've ever been speechless." The principle took it upon himself to out his student. "They tell my parents "I am struggling with homosexuality." My mother broke down in tears, my dad wasn't particularly thrilled..."

If this wasn't enough they took six days to decide to expel James from school, citing 'immoral behavior and supporting an immoral cause.' "The reason for expulsion and the suspension is the fact that what I have done/am is a Class A offense. I am not given a chance to appeal to honor council, it's "too sensitive";"

Before the expulsion the school made James pull his site. They suggested if he complied they might allow him back. They didn't and he was able to get it put up on a private server, which is costing him $200 a month. He thinks its worth it. "My site meant a great deal to me to keep up, since sites like it saved my life. I felt like it was stripped away from me and from a group of people who might not have been able to find a friend in a hard time."

James attended Trinity Christian Academy for thirteen years, his family paying around $130,000 in total tuition. All he wanted was a degree from the school he's been so fond of. It's ashame that they won't give him that.

As of last Monday, James has contacted the ACLU and is waiting for a response.

link (http://dailykos.com/story/2004/12/14/25238/046)

This dude should sue that school for every cent they have. What kind of sick people would force a student out of the closet?

Originally posted by Idioteque
This dude should sue that school for every cent they have. What kind of sick people would force a student out of the closet?

Lets take a guess....um, maybe the loving religious people who run the loving religious school he was attending.

I hope they get sued for every penny they have. This is just sick.

Yes. Such a moral, accepting, America we have here.

*rolls eyes*

its a private school they can do whatever they want. perhaps he could go to the all gay public school in NYC

Originally posted by Travh20
its a private school they can do whatever they want

Untrue,
They can't hurt him physically.
They can't hurt him emotionally. Which they did.
They can't they leak private information to others. Which they did.
They can't harrass him.

They could expell him.
They could ask him to leave.
They could ignore the entire thing.

Instead they chose to disregard the laws of our country and release his private information without consent. They also lyerd to him by telling him they would consider not expelling him if he shit down the web site.

Remember, he is an adult. Over 18. Attending a private school does not give them the right to release his personal information to people. What if it had been his socisl security number? Where do these rightious bastards draw the line?

Oh I am sure there wll be lawsuits, once the sacred cow is violated the worshipers will stop at nothing to avenge him.

Originally posted by Travh20
Oh I am sure there wll be lawsuits, once the sacred cow is violated the worshipers will stop at nothing to avenge him.


TRANSLATION:

Once a persons rights have been violated the democratic prosess will stop at nothing to avenge him. This is a great country!

sure echo, wahtever. i am sure the fact a gay guy is being oppressed by christians has nothing to do with your levle of zeal in his defense. Somehow I feel if the situation were reversed you would not be so vocal in your criticism of the school

Originally posted by Travh20
sure echo, wahtever. i am sure the fact a gay guy is being oppressed by christians has nothing to do with your levle of zeal in his defense. Somehow I feel if the situation were reversed you would not be so vocal in your criticism of the school

You are wrong about that. I believe in EQUAL RIGHTS. If someone was being oppressed because of their religion I would support them 100%.

It isn't about hatred or not liking people and only defending the ones you like. It is about treating everyone equally. It's a simple concept. NO DISCRIMINATION, no matter who or what.

That school should be ashamed of themselves. That teenager better sue A.S.A.P. So what happened with him and the parents?

Originally posted by revenG_DeSire
So what happened with him and the parents?

The diary was updated at DailyKos.


Update: 12/14 10:45 AM -

To clear up some confusion: The site was not stored on the school's server. James has a server at home and runs a successful web design company. The site was pulled so it wouldn't be “under his parent's roof.” I assume he makes enough money to cover the $200 a month bill from his design work.

James is currently attending a local public high school for the remainder of the year.

He is currently living with his parents, and things seem to ok. His dad (A Bush voter) is less upset than his mom, who voted for Kerry.

The school hasn't called me back. Their number is 972-931-8325. I've been directed to Headmaster David Delph.

Update: 12/14 - 1:50 PM If you'd like to contact the school, the number is above. Or you can use these e-mail addresses.

Headmaster: David Delph (ddelph@trinitychristian.org)
Assistant to the Headmaster: Tony Jeffrey (tjeffrey@trinitychristian.org)
Upper School Head: Kyle Morrill (kmorrill@trinitychristian.org)

Also, Destiny6 suggested we contact the Dallas-Fort Worth Star-Telegram at letters@star-telegram.com.

Other Dallas Media: dc@smu.edu, vterefen@smu.edu, rtrimble@smu.edu, nregan@smu.edu, editor@dallasvoice.com, calendar@dallasvoice.com, jsimnacher@dallasnews.com, bmarvel@dallasnews.com, feedback@dallasobserver.com, letters@star-telegram.com

good to know his parents are getting along with him...

I would have kicked the principal in the nuts instead of putting my head in my hands... what he did was technically illegal, he was 18, and reserved the right for information to be witheld. Personally, I hope the school loses it's credibility and the government doesn't recongnise it as a valid educational facility to give out diplomas.

ya, you mess with a gay in this country you may as well kiss your ass goodbye. the whole school should be shut down!

Originally posted by Travh20
ya, you mess with a gay in this country you may as well kiss your ass goodbye. the whole school should be shut down!

So you think the school should be able to kick him out based on what he does at home, on his own time? Even so, he is an adult and asked for his privacy to be respected. The pricipal was very irresponsible to stick his nose in somebody else's business.

I dont agree with it. the guy should be able to live how he wants, but all the outrage is because the victim is gay, not becasue his right to privacy was violated, lets not kid ourselves.

Your callousness toward the guy is because he's gay. If he was an evangelical who was kicked out of an LA school for not voting for Kerry you'd care.

Sick Mofo's

Dop

Originally posted by Lungdop Philing
Sick Mofo's

Dop

Fo Sho...:D

ya, and if the christian guy got kicked out of a school you would be callous towards him, whats your point? the fact of the matter is, all the libs who have sounded off are more outraged that a gay guy got his rights violated then if Joe Blow straight christian guy got his violated. Thats why the post was made, thats why all the libs from Dop to Bliblob have chimed in, thats why thre are calls to close the school down and assault the prinicpal. I dont agree with exposing this guy if he didnt want to be exposed. It was wrong for the principal to do, and he should be punished. I am simply pointing out that the real meat of hte matter here is that a christian did something to a gay. If the situation were reversed, this post would not exist.

Originally posted by Travh20
If the situation were reversed, this post would not exist.

That is where the foundation of your hatred comes from. You actually believe that people who stand up for civil rights and equality only do it only for certain groups. Maybe because you don't understand what the word EQUAL meens.

The liberals I know get upset when ANYONE gets their civil rights abused or taken away. If this was a straight evangelical christian who got kicked out of school for having a christian web site I would be just as upset. It isn't about putting one group before another. It's about insureing that EVERYBODY gets EQUAL treatment.

Your hatred for all things democratic is fogging you mind.

sure echo, you have showed over and over again you are a tireless defender of christians and chrisitans rights. Actually, you are the least tolerant person towards christians I have ever seen. If anyone hates here, it is you, as you have shown over and over again your absolute oathing for anyone who believes god is the superior being in the universe. The words brainless idiots with no conscience and unable to think for themselves jumps into my mind. dont try and bullshit us echo. you have an agenda. When civil rights fits it your all for it. when you can take away rights becasue the constitution supposidly backs your hatred you do it.

I dont agree with it. the guy should be able to live how he wants, but all the outrage is because the victim is gay, not becasue his right to privacy was violated, lets not kid ourselves.
I will admit that we would not be hearing about it on here if he wasn't gay. However, it probably wouldn't of happened if he wasn't gay(er, look at that more on an abstract way, not specifically this case). The ACLU would damn sure well of heard about it, and done something about it. I would probably of heard about it since I get emails from them. Although, if you think I care only because he's gay, you have issues. That's a direct infringment on privacy and liberty. And if you had any comprehension skills whatsoever, you'd know I'm against that.

thank you bliblob, your honesty is refreshing. I will disregard yet another crack at my comprehension skills.

Echo said it.

The reason minority groups are always at the center of these kinds of stories is because they can't kick a straight white middle class kid out of school for being straight. The larger society is straight, white, and middle class. It's the misfits that get mistreated.

Equality is about respecting people you may not agree with and it's designed to keep the moral majority from imposing their major morality on us heathens.

Originally posted by Idioteque
This dude should sue that school for every cent they have.

Sue them?

That's laughable.

The kid was going to a Christian Academy.

He KNEW when he got mixed up with them that the Xtians hated homosexuals.

It's right there in their perfect Book --- "Kill the homos, stone them to death!"

Originally posted by Idioteque
What kind of sick people would force a student out of the closet?

The same kind of people that, 2000+ years ago, based on the instructions in a Book, pelted homosexuals with stones until they were dead.

Superstitious, ignorant, intolerant people.

Originally posted by Freethinker
Superstitious, ignorant, intolerant people.

No more so than someone (i.e. you) accusing me of hating a group that I don't hate just because I happen to be a Christian. Funny how you can't see it in yourself.

LionelHutz is actually a good guy freethinker...I respect him a lot and I know he does not hate me...honestly, you are almost too extreme.

Originally posted by Overdose
LionelHutz is actually a good guy freethinker...I respect him a lot and I know he does not hate me...honestly, you are almost too extreme.
"Almost"? He most definitely is too extreme. I've never met anybody who hates one group of people more than him. It's ironic...he absolutely despises a whole group of people because part of that group hates a different group.

An 18 year old who is basically running a website dedicated to helping other teens during troubling times. Take away the sexuality and I dont believe there would be any problem as long as the content remains fit for all ages.

The dude who ratted the gay guy out needs an attitude adjustment for being a bitch.

The principle needs to be fired if he has commited any crime. Since im not a lawyer I dont know if a crime has indeed been commited. If, however, no crime was commited, then this really shouldnt be an issue.


The gay kid should be allowed to graduate and get his diploma,IMO. It's not like his forum was a gay porn site.

Originally posted by LionelHutz
No more so than someone (i.e. you) accusing me of hating a group that I don't hate...

I haven't accused you of anything.

I accuse the Christian ideology [i.e., the Bible] of hatred for homosexuals.

It is written there in black and white, for all to see.

Individual Chrisitans alway have a handy excuse as to why it is not THEY who are fostering hatred for homosexuals in contemporary American society......yet whenever some issue comes to the fore where they could demonstrate the tolerance they claim to possess, we SEE where their true proclivities lie...........the *gay marriage* issue, and the overwhelming and vehement opposition to it from the religious faction in America, for example.

Originally posted by Freethinker

I accuse the Christian ideology [i.e., the Bible] of hatred for homosexuals.

It is written there in black and white, for all to see.

Individual Chrisitans alway have a handy excuse as to why it is not THEY who are fostering hatred for homosexuals in contemporary American society......yet whenever some issue comes to the fore where they could demonstrate the tolerance they claim to possess, we SEE where their true proclivities lie...........the *gay marriage* issue, and the overwhelming and vehement opposition to it from the religious faction in America, for example. You see in black and white what you want to see. Intolerance towards homosexual acts does not equate to hate towards the homosexual themselves. You just choose to believe that is so.

Originally posted by Overdose
LionelHutz is actually a good guy freethinker...I respect him a lot and I know he does not hate me...honestly, you are almost too extreme. :flowers:

Originally posted by Freethinker
I haven't accused you of anything.

I accuse the Christian ideology [i.e., the Bible] of hatred for homosexuals.

No, you quite clearly accused all Christians, which would have to include me:

Originally posted by Freethinker
He KNEW when he got mixed up with them that the Xtians hated homosexuals.

Superstitious, ignorant, intolerant people.

Doesn't look like an accusation of any idiology to me. You're accusing a group of people. Just because you didn't mention my name doesn't mean I'm not included.

Originally posted by Freethinker
Individual Chrisitans alway have a handy excuse as to why it is not THEY who are fostering hatred for homosexuals in contemporary American society

Do you suppose that's because individual Christians don't all think exactly the same? Nah.

Why don't you just admit that you hate an entire group of people instead of proving on a daily basis that you're a raving hypocrit?

Originally posted by LionelHutz
:flowers:

:D See...I'm not always crazy.

Originally posted by Travh20
sure echo, you have showed over and over again you are a tireless defender of christians and chrisitans rights.

Now THAT my friends....is sarcam at its finest LMAO


FT...christianity believes homosexuality is wrong, but the essence of being a christian is loving everyone as God does. Some may represent the religion incorrectly, but trust me most christians don't HATE gay people as you hate christians. I know gay people and have never had a problem. I myself commit so many sins, I will speak out against them and say they are wrong, but some are unavoidable. I know im sinful, we ALL Are. Luckily the man upstairs loves us all.

It is possible to not like what someone does and not hate them...dont mix the two together.

Originally posted by Decka
It is possible to not like what someone does and not hate them...dont mix the two together.

It is also possible to not like the hypocrasy of a religion and not hate the believers.

Your logic is good, but you only seem to apply it to yourself and your beliefs.

Originally posted by Decka
christianity believes homosexuality is wrong, but the essence of being a christian is loving everyone as God does.

Does it? I haven't heard that in my church, anyway. Of course Christianity believes sex outside of marriage is a sin, but that applies to everyone.

Originally posted by HaVoK
Intolerance towards homosexual acts does not equate to hate towards the homosexual themselves.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

I mean, just because your (and Christianity's) "perfect" Book instructs you to STONE THEM TO DEATH doesn't necessarily mean that Christianity "hates" homosexual themselves.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Originally posted by Freethinker
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

I mean, just because your (and Christianity's) "perfect" Book instructs you to STONE THEM TO DEATH doesn't necessarily mean that Christianity "hates" homosexual themselves.

Thanks for clearing that up. I know that in your myopic, hate filled world, there is no room for tolerance. Not everyone feels as you do though. Thank God.

Originally posted by HaVoK
I know that in your myopic, hate filled world, there is no room for tolerance.

I have a great deal of tolerance......but not for your particular superstition, whose Book of Rules instructs them to be murderously INtolerant of people.

Your [and the Christian religion's] position comes down to one of --"How DARE you be intolerant of our intolerance!!"

all the outrage is because the victim is gay, not becasue his right to privacy was violated, lets not kid ourselves.

Travh, excellent point.

A lot of the problems with the Democratic party can be paralleled to this thread.

They want to defend a gay boy in a high school whose rights have been violated, but a straight boy with a similar problem would get no attention.

They want to have world peace, but they don't want to fight for it.

Killing fetuses should be legal, but killing killers shouldn't.

Taxes should be raised, but only for the rich, not for themselves.

Welfare, college education, jobs, everything you could want should be handed over to every American citizen, but no mention is ever made of world hunger/starvation.

They want to sue over everything, but they hate lawyers and think that their money should be taken and redistributed to everyone else.

They want to have top notch medicine, but same deal, they expect top notch care from doctors while they take their money away.

Ridiculus.

Originally posted by Freethinker
I have a great deal of tolerance......but not for your particular superstition, whose Book of Rules instructs them to be murderously INtolerant of people.

Your [and the Christian religion's] position comes down to one of --"How DARE you be intolerant of our intolerance!!"

you have a great deal of tolerance, as long as everyone agrees with you that Bush is satan

Originally posted by Karankawa
They want to defend a gay boy in a high school whose rights have been violated, but a straight boy with a similar problem would get no attention.
Please, give me an example of a straight boy who would have that problem? If the principle told the parents he was straight, I highly doubt the kid would be almost in tears. I highly doubt the parents would be disappointed, either. Not to mention, it’s our job as Americans to make sure the minorities of this country do not get taken advantage of by the majority.

Originally posted by Karankawa
They want to have world peace, but they don't want to fight for it.
Really? Hmmmm, that’s interesting…

Originally posted by Karankawa
Taxes should be raised, but only for the rich, not for themselves.
Wrong. Taxes should be raised more or less according to how much income you make.

Originally posted by Karankawa
Welfare, college education, jobs, everything you could want should be handed over to every American citizen, but no mention is ever made of world hunger/starvation.
Not really, huge generalizations are not good, Karankawa.

Bla. Bla. Bla. Bla. Typical right wing trash.

when did this country shift from majority rule to a country based soley on the protection of the minority?

Originally posted by Travh20
when did this country shift from majority rule to a country based soley on the protection of the minority?
Ummm, women were given the right to vote, and blacks gained equal rights...they were the minority. We've done a lot to protect the minority in this country throughout our history.

Originally posted by Travh20
when did this country shift from majority rule to a country based soley on the protection of the minority?
In 1776.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed, -- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security -- Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government."

no, when did our sole purpose in life become to please the minority?

Originally posted by Travh20
when did this country shift from majority rule to a country based soley on the protection of the minority?

thats what I am wanting to know....

Please, give me an example of a straight boy who would have that problem

Will a straight girl suffice? Front page of CNN. com today, here is a girl who wore a confederate flag styled dress to her prom and was denied entrance. Hm, whaddya know, no posts anywhere on the forums about it. Oh well, let this serve as just another reminder of how the liberals double talk.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/12/22/confederate.prom.dress.ap/index.html

Not to mention, it’s our job as Americans to make sure the minorities of this country do not get taken advantage of by the majority.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, WRONG AGAIN.

NO ONE should be taken advantage of, PERIOD. AGAIN, you've just spelled out exactly what is wrong with you!!!!

Originally posted by Travh20
no, when did our sole purpose in life become to please the minority?
Who said anything about "pleasing"? We're talking about rights, not "pleasing" people.

Borg, you quoted the wrong document, that has no legal representation in our government, this does though:

Bill of rights, number nine:
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

Originally posted by Blibblob
Borg, you quoted the wrong document, that has no legal representation in our government, this does though:

Bill of rights, number nine:
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
I wasn't going for legal representation; I was going for more the spirit of the founding of this country and what good Americans should do.

Originally posted by Karankawa
Will a straight girl suffice? Front page of CNN. com today, here is a girl who wore a confederate flag styled dress to her prom and was denied entrance. Hm, whaddya know, no posts anywhere on the forums about it. Oh well, let this serve as just another reminder of how the liberals double talk.
What are you talking about? Ever heard of a school dress code? Ever heard of no “Drugs, Violence, and Offensive material allowed”…? My school has rules, and we wouldn’t be allowed to wear Swastikas to school. That’s preaching violence and harm against specific students. A confederate flag represents slavery in my eyes.

Originally posted by Karankawa
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, WRONG AGAIN.
Wow. Thanks for backing up your statements!

Originally posted by Overdose


Wow. Thanks for backing up your statements!

you must not have read the entire post...because he made a valid statement just after....scroll up and reread.


We do cater to the minority too much. Majority rules in a democracy.....in case you forgot.

Originally posted by Decka
Majority rules in a democracy.....in case you forgot.

Ummm, the majority didn't want blacks and whites to marry. the majority wanted slavery....so wait, what are you talking about? What rules is the constitution.

Originally posted by Decka
We do cater to the minority too much. Majority rules in a democracy.....in case you forgot.
Since when were we a democracy? I thought we were a republic...

Originally posted by Overdose
the majority wanted slavery....so wait, what are you talking about? Wrong. The majority neither wanted, nor owned slaves. So, what are YOU talking about?

Originally posted by HaVoK
Wrong. The majority neither wanted, nor owned slaves. So, what are YOU talking about?
No, I'm not wrong. The majority in the South wanted to have slaves. So why didn't we let each state decide since we are a majority run country? And what about women's right to vote? They were considered a minority at that time. What about interracial marriage?

As hard as they try, they still cannot justify their hatred twords minorities. And it really pisses them off when you point out the historical and constituional facts that make their hate filled ideas wrong. And the most hypocritical part is that they will look you in the face and tell you they don't hate anyone, all the while trying to pass laws to discriminate against individual groups and teaching their children that certain people are bad and sinfull.

Their ideals are neck deap in hypocrasy and they can't even see it they are so blinded by their hate.

Go ahead, tell us how you don't hate. Scream it from the rooftops if you want.

Actions speak louder than words.

Originally posted by Overdose
No, I'm not wrong. The majority in the South wanted to have slaves. So why didn't we let each state decide since we are a majority run country? And what about women's right to vote? They were considered a minority at that time. What about interracial marriage? You're wrong yet again. Do you think that everyone in the South owned and supported slavery? Even a majority? The rich owned slaves and supported the continuation of the disgusting practice of human servitude because it brought them a profit. Nothing more. What the rest of the people in the South were guilty of is not taking a stand against slavery in the first place.

A country that was founded on individual freedom was just making a mockery of the struggles of our forefathers to create a country for people to be free.

Originally posted by Echo2
As hard as they try, they still cannot justify their hatred twords minorities. And it really pisses them off when you point out the historical and constituional facts that make their hate filled ideas wrong. And the most hypocritical part is that they will look you in the face and tell you they don't hate anyone, all the while trying to pass laws to discriminate against individual groups and teaching their children that certain people are bad and sinfull.

Their ideals are neck deap in hypocrasy and they can't even see it they are so blinded by their hate.

Go ahead, tell us how you don't hate. Scream it from the rooftops if you want.

Actions speak louder than words. Who is this "THEY" you speak of?

Originally posted by HaVoK
You're wrong yet again. Do you think that everyone in the South owned and supported slavery? Even a majority?
Why did the South want to break away from the Union and start the Confederacy? Maybe because of political differences, slavery.

sorry for jumping in kind of randomly, i'm just going to reply to some stuff in general....

one of the basic flaws of democracy (every political system has them, can't avoid it) is tyranny of the majority. one of the most important duties of the government, mainly the judicial branhc, is to make sure that minorities receive equal treatment and the same rights as everyone else. speical attention isn't paid to memebers of the majoirty because they don't have to owrry. most people are like them and wouldn't take away their rights. the minorites have to be looked after and taken care of by the governemrng is some respects because the majority of people aren't like them, and won;t necessarily have a problem with taking away their rights. nobodys saying that gay people should be given speical treatment, people are saying that its more difficult for gay peole to get equal treatment, and therefore everyone must be more dilingent in making sure they have lal their rights. more attention is being paid towards them because that extra attention is required for them to have equal rights.

What are you talking about? Ever heard of a school dress code? Ever heard of no “Drugs, Violence, and Offensive material allowed”…? My school has rules, and we wouldn’t be allowed to wear Swastikas to school. That’s preaching violence and harm against specific students. A confederate flag represents slavery in my eyes.

Yes, but none of the schools in this area, or apprently your area, do not ban confederate flags. A student wore a dress designed as a confederate flag, and I'm pretty damn sure that if this was a homo, you would be up in arms about it.

Wow. Thanks for backing up your statements!

Thank you!!! You and Freethinker are keeping me quite busy pointing out the oxymorons in your logic. The really sad part is that you two represent the most intelligent liberals on this board. I come here because I am not always sure that conservatives are right. But after reading the lunacy written by you guys here on allforums, I become tons more confident on which direction is correct.

Originally posted by Karankawa
Yes, but none of the schools in this area, or apprently your area, do not ban confederate flags. A student wore a dress designed as a confederate flag, and I'm pretty damn sure that if this was a homo, you would be up in arms about it.
Wrong. A Confederate Flag to me represents slavery and it would offend African Americans. Sorry, but I have no problem with this because she is advocating violence. A Confederate Flag reminds me of lynching, racism, and prejudice. Sorry, but the school was correct. School dress codes usually ban any violent or offensive clothing, and that could very well be deemed as offensive.

Originally posted by Karankawa
Thank you!!! You and Freethinker are keeping me quite busy pointing out the oxymorons in your logic. The really sad part is that you two represent the most intelligent liberals on this board.
Firstly, there is no oxymorons. You just fabricate them, and decide to preach your right wing propaganda. That isn’t my problem.

LOL, and I wouldn’t say I’m intelligent. Hahahaha

A Confederate Flag reminds me of lynching, racism, and prejudice. Sorry, but the school was correct. School dress codes usually ban any violent or offensive clothing, and that could very well be deemed as offensive.

Funny how you support the school when it comes to the dress code (which very likely wasn't in the dress code) on a heterosexual, but you oppose the school when it does something as basic as INFORM PARENTS about A CONCERN it has about a homosexual student!!!

And the hilarious part is that you guys want the student to sue.

Do you people realize that the whole reason the principal got the parents involved was probably for fear of being sued by the parents? Do you not realize how many lawsuits have been filed because of principals that DID NOT INFORM PARENTS?

Schools' knee jerk reaction is to get parents involved as quickly as possible. And let's face it, that principal probably had no clue what to do with that student. So he got the parents involved.

OMG, SUE THE PRINCIPAL. *bonk the liberals*

Originally posted by Karankawa
Funny how you support the school when it comes to the dress code (which very likely wasn't in the dress code) on a heterosexual, but you oppose the school when it does something as basic as INFORM PARENTS about A CONCERN it has about a homosexual student!!!
What are you talking about? Was he breaking any rules about being homosexual? No. Was he 18? Yes. Did the school have a right to tell the parents? No, he’s 18. Did he break any rules making that web site? Yes. He didn’t break any by being homosexual and it’s his private business, since he is 18. The school had no right to do what they did, for he’s 18 and he broke no rules.

As for this dress, she most likely broke a rule. Most schools say no offensive or prejudice dressing in school. That flag represents and offends others in the school.

Originally posted by Karankawa
And the hilarious part is that you guys want the student to sue.
Liar. I never said that claim.

Originally posted by Karankawa
Do you people realize that the whole reason the principal got the parents involved was probably for fear of being sued by the parents? Do you not realize how many lawsuits have been filed because of principals that DID NOT INFORM PARENTS?
Ummm, he’s 18. He is an adult. He would have taken on any legal issues. Parents didn’t need to know.

Was he in school? Yes. Could the school be named in a lawsuit for witholding information about a student?

What do you think?

Withholding information about his sexuality that is his personal business since he is 18? Nope, don't think so.