BAGHDAD, Nov. 21 - Senior U.S. military commanders in Iraq say it is increasingly likely they will need a further increase in combat forces to put down remaining areas of resistance in the country.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6550818/

Yes, I keep saying the same things over and over...and here it is...one of the things I've been saying over and over. We didn't bring enough troops

The big problem with sending more troops to Iraq is that we don't have that many more troops. If we are going to continue to fight this war, we need to expand the military.

Originally posted by Overdose
BAGHDAD, Nov. 21 - Senior U.S. military commanders in Iraq say it is increasingly likely they will need a further increase in combat forces to put down remaining areas of resistance in the country.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6550818/

Yes, I keep saying the same things over and over...and here it is...one of the things I've been saying over and over. We didn't bring enough troops

You should sign up when you turn 18 OD. They have a don't ask, don't tell policy, so you should have no problems.
:D

I'll tell..

You should go, you are of age. And you support Bush.

Originally posted by Overdose
I'll tell..

You should go, you are of age. And you support Bush.

I joined when I turned 18. I already served my time.
:D

Did you go to Iraq? Because that is where we need you now. Also, Bush is calling up people to serve again...because he miss-planned and didn't bring enough troops.

Originally posted by Overdose
Did you go to Iraq? Because that is where we need you now. Also, Bush is calling up people to serve again...because he miss-planned and didn't bring enough troops.

I've been to Iraq, but before the war started (Luckily), but at least I served, which is more than you can say. You'd rather sit at home and whine, and bitch.

Originally Posted by Overdose
Oh my pussy hurts so bad! I can't serve my country because I hate it, but I enjoy all the freedom it gives me.

Originally posted by SecretAgentMan
I've been to Iraq, but before the war started (Luckily), but at least I served, which is more than you can say. You'd rather sit at home and whine, and bitch.


Hey who can blame him?

If you're so tough you go. Enough with your "I already served" crap...

I tried to go when this started. Told me I had been out too long and was too old.

In case you are told to go but don't want to, fall off of a roof and break one of your legs. (or two of them if you are feeling moody)

Your legs will suck, but you won't have to go! :D

Originally posted by revenG_DeSire
In case you are told to go but don't want to, fall off of a roof and break one of your legs. (or two of them if you are feeling moody)

Your legs will suck, but you won't have to go! :D

Such Bravery! I'm shocked!

Originally posted by revenG_DeSire
In case you are told to go but don't want to, fall off of a roof and break one of your legs. (or two of them if you are feeling moody)

Your legs will suck, but you won't have to go! :D Hopefully a gust of wind will come up and turn you upside down and its your neck that gets broken. :)

Originally posted by Overdose

Yes, I keep saying the same things over and over...and here it is...one of the things I've been saying over and over. We didn't bring enough troops

STFU man, I am sick of your crap. "oh oh oh, I was right, I have said it all along, blah blah blah." So you said we need more troops, does that make you general patton? Every commander in the history of warfare has wished he had more troops. Bush has said all along if the commanders on the ground want more troops they would get them, I dont remember him saying anything about gay little overdose in Portland Oregon being the deciding factor on troop deployments to Iraq. just go listen to your britney spears and STFU

I so want the draft to start up again -- and induct women as well.

The shrub has been told since he started this war that he didn't have enough troops to get the job done. But he has been too afraid to do anything about it for fear it would mess up his chances to get re-elected. Lets see how long he keeps his promise of no draft. LOL Read his lips guys - the shit doesn't fall far from the asshole. He's a chip off the old block.

For those not wanting to serve, all they have to do is say that they are gay or bi. Or that they have smoked dope in the last year. No need to hurt yourself.

For those who back this war - get off your asses and go fight it. I don't see trav running off to enlist but I sure hear a lot of crap about how great this war is from him.

PREVIOUS DUTY DOES NOT COUNT. It is this war you are promoting. If you really wanted to win you wouldn't be sending all the "pussy democrats" to fight it - you'd go yourself!

Some of us have already tried to re-enlist. In my own case, my age closed the door - despite having served over 20 years on active duty.

Bring back the draft, and induct women as well.

Originally posted by Travh20
STFU man, I am sick of your crap.
Put me on ignore then. Otherwise you will be forced to read my crap. I suggest you learn to deal with my crap, because I’m not going anywhere.

Originally posted by Travh20
"oh oh oh, I was right, I have said it all along, blah blah blah." So you said we need more troops, does that make you general patton?
Yes, I was correct. You simply didn’t believe me whenever I posted that we needed more troops. Many Republicans asked how I knew we needed more troops to stabilize Iraq….and I gave them generals who said we needed them. I’m just pointing the fact that, Bush does not know how to plan for a war. He mis-calculates and in the long run, our nation suffers. We didn’t bring enough troops to stabilize Iraq, period. Bush says we can bring them a Democracy…well no we can’t. We don’t have enough troops. He’s a failed President.

Originally posted by Travh20
Bush has said all along if the commanders on the ground want more troops
Bush knew that we needed more troops before he invaded Iraq. He was told that we didn’t have enough, and yet he still invaded. That is reckless, and arrogant. Although, it’s expected from a President who hasn’t served.

Originally posted by Travh20
just go listen to your britney spears and STFU
Bringing my music into the situation again? How typical…yet pointless


Gay overdose

You mentioned I was gay, again. You always do that...yet you say we always bring it up and shove it down your throat. Yeah….right. It seems as if you are more obsessed with homosexuality, then most homosexuals....

And he should care what I have to say. I’m a citizen of the United States. We all have equal voices, that should each be listened to equally.

Originally posted by Echo2
The shrub has been told since he started this war that he didn't have enough troops to get the job done. But he has been too afraid to do anything about it for fear it would mess up his chances to get re-elected. Lets see how long he keeps his promise of no draft. LOL Read his lips guys - the shit doesn't fall far from the asshole. He's a chip off the old block.

For those not wanting to serve, all they have to do is say that they are gay or bi. Or that they have smoked dope in the last year. No need to hurt yourself.

For those who back this war - get off your asses and go fight it. I don't see trav running off to enlist but I sure hear a lot of crap about how great this war is from him.

PREVIOUS DUTY DOES NOT COUNT. It is this war you are promoting. If you really wanted to win you wouldn't be sending all the "pussy democrats" to fight it - you'd go yourself!

http://onfinite.com/libraries/165783/1d1.jpg

Originally posted by Overdose

I’m a citizen of the United States. We all have equal voices, that should each be listened to equally.


I think America should be more like the movie , "Starship Troopers" where only people who have served in the military can be citizens.

Now there's a thought.

Originally posted by Overdose
Put me on ignore then. Otherwise you will be forced to read my crap. I suggest you learn to deal with my crap, because I’m not going anywhere.


Yes, I was correct. You simply didn’t believe me whenever I posted that we needed more troops. Many Republicans asked how I knew we needed more troops to stabilize Iraq….and I gave them generals who said we needed them. I’m just pointing the fact that, Bush does not know how to plan for a war. He mis-calculates and in the long run, our nation suffers. We didn’t bring enough troops to stabilize Iraq, period. Bush says we can bring them a Democracy…well no we can’t. We don’t have enough troops. He’s a failed President.


Bush knew that we needed more troops before he invaded Iraq. He was told that we didn’t have enough, and yet he still invaded. That is reckless, and arrogant. Although, it’s expected from a President who hasn’t served.


Bringing my music into the situation again? How typical…yet pointless


Gay overdose

You mentioned I was gay, again. You always do that...yet you say we always bring it up and shove it down your throat. Yeah….right. It seems as if you are more obsessed with homosexuality, then most homosexuals....

And he should care what I have to say. I’m a citizen of the United States. We all have equal voices, that should each be listened to equally.

Overdose, you make it seem like you are the only one in America who said we needed more troops. you are one arrogant bastard. of course if we had a troop for every iraqi we would be fine wouldnt we? you know as much about troop deployment and military ooperations as I know about madonna and britney spears music, which is jack shit. anyone can say "we need more troops", a retard could say that. maybe if you gave some specifics as to where we need them, what type, where they will come from, what divisions or brigades, then maybe you would be taken seriously. you the kind of idiot who thinks simply throwing more money at something will make it go away too. "We got failing students? better fund it more. I have alway said we need more funding." of course no specifics. no wonder you liked kerry so much, you like big talk with no substance. ya, we need more troops. no shit. the problem is the same idiots like yourself who said that were the same dip shits whining about keeping NG people over there for a long time and about a draft, and the funniest shit of all is that the same dip shits who say this are the same dip shits who fought to reduce the size of the active army. thats the real kicker. the same people who said out active arm was to big in the late 80's and 90's are the same ones saying what you are saying now "oh, we dont have enough troops, bush is a failed president!" I dont remember bush signing any orders to reduce the size of the military, do you? Wouldnt it be great if we had our 16 active divisions again? boy, that would be a lot of troops! to bad the short sighted politicians looking to score points decided we didnt need them. its easy to just run your mouth like you do, but to have answers to real problems is another issue, one for men with guts, which you dont have. I forgot to metion something, your gay.

Originally posted by Travh20
Overdose, you make it seem like you are the only one in America who said we needed more troops. you are one arrogant bastard. of course if we had a troop for every iraqi we would be fine wouldnt we? you know as much about troop deployment and military ooperations as I know about madonna and britney spears music, which is jack shit. anyone can say "we need more troops", a retard could say that.
Tony Mickpeak who was one of the top leaders of the Gulf War said we needed more troops, before we took action in Iraq. John McCain also, said we needed more troops, before we invaded Iraq. Our military generals said (as in this report) that we need more troops. Bush didn’t bring enough, and he was warned before hand. Basically, Bush knew failure was going to happen in Iraq, but still went. Why else would he go, if he knew we didn’t have enough troops?

And you’re correct, I don’t know a lot about the military. So? McPeak, McCain, and these generals do. And they prove the point I’m trying to convey. Sadly, you are incorrect…and your President is an idiot who didn’t plan correctly.

The rest of your post was just bashing me. I don’t think I’ll respond to you dancing around the issues.

Originally posted by Travh20
I forgot to metion something, your gay.
hehehehehehehehe

The fact of the matter remains. We DID bring enough to take out Saddam and his regime.

The only thing we're still doing there is fighting terrorists from Iran, and elsewhere, until Iraq can have their first free elections (January 30th BTW), and can handle things themselves.

Oh, and Overdose IS gay. Trav is right about that.

The fact of the matter remains. We DID bring enough to take out Saddam and his regime.

We didn’t bring enough to stabilize Iraq, and win the pace. We didn’t bring enough to make these citizens live in a Democracy.

Bush is giving them a “democracy” and how can you do that, if you don’t have enough troops? Yes, we brought enough to get Saddam out. But that isn’t the entire war, or struggle. If you think that’s all this war is about, you are sadly mistaken.

Originally posted by Overdose
The fact of the matter remains. We DID bring enough to take out Saddam and his regime.

We didn’t bring enough to stabilize Iraq, and win the pace. We didn’t bring enough to make these citizens live in a Democracy.

Bush is giving them a “democracy” and how can you do that, if you don’t have enough troops? Yes, we brought enough to get Saddam out. But that isn’t the entire war, or struggle. If you think that’s all this war is about, you are sadly mistaken.

I thought you had me on ignore? Did you miss me?

I do have you on ignore. I can still read your posts, they just don’t show up automatically. If you are posting in a thread that I’m involved in, I’ll check what you are saying. If not, then you can post your idiotic crap. Luckily, it’s easy to refute what you say.

But I usually don’t check what you are saying…because it’s usually something stupid like what you just said…so don’t hold your breath. This is a rare occasion that I’m checking what you are saying.

Ah, but you ARE still checking.

Dang, dang dang.

There was an article in the New York Post today saying that we have TOO MANY troops in Iraq. Wish I could find.

Or better yet, I wish the TRUTH about Iraq would get out. The Left has one side and a major agenda (read Bush's war is a failure) the right has a totally different take on Iraq and an agenda, if a smaller one, as well (read that the Iraq war is going well and the Iraqis like us there) It's hard to know what's going on because the media we depend on for news is not reporting news, it's doing commentary. Which leaves us out in the cold.

Please, find it. I have generals, Tony Mickpeak, and McCain all pointing in my direction. I highly doubt you can find anything to counter them or this article.

Found a story on TOO MANY TROOPS in Iraq! Read here (http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2004/11/22/hawks_push_deep_cuts_in_forces_in_iraq/)!

Yay! You have one general! Good job! You guys are sure getting up there!

Originally posted by Darth Be'lal
Found a story on TOO MANY TROOPS in Iraq! Read here (http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2004/11/22/hawks_push_deep_cuts_in_forces_in_iraq/)!
http://home.cwru.edu/~rra4/owned-hatonfire.jpg

How am I owned? Are you simply retarded or just stupid? You are proving your stupidity with every post you present. Firstly, that article showed one General saying that we had enough troops.
I have commanders IN Iraq saying we need more troops. Who are you going to trust? Those that aren’t in Iraq, or those that are in Iraq? Hmmmm, take your pick.
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BAGHDAD, Nov. 21 - Senior U.S. military commanders in Iraq say it is increasingly likely they will need a further increase in combat forces to put down remaining areas of resistance in the country.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6550818/

Dose,

That's just the thing. I don't know if we need more or less troops in Iraq. And news reports are conflictory.


You have been dead set against this war in part, I think, because you wished to use it as an excuse to oust Bush.

I myself am very aware of the dangers of radical islam, and the need to put a stop to it. SOMEBODY has to stand up to Radical Islam, or Western Civilization will be in danger. So I applaud Bush's efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan and hope Democracy can bloom where sown.

Unfortunately, our mainstream media has been in the tank for the Left, and no good info is coming out of Iraq.

You've posted a report saying that some think more troops are needed, I posted one saying LESS troops are needed. I think this Iraq thing is going to have to be played out to see who is right.

Originally posted by Darth Be'lal
That's just the thing. I don't know if we need more or less troops in Iraq. And news reports are conflictory.
Generals inIraq say we need more troops. They witness what is going on in Iraq, and they fully understand that we need more troops. Is the General you posted in Iraq, at this very moment? And I have many Generals proving my point…how many do you have (remember, they must be in Iraq)?
Originally posted by Darth Be'lal
You have been dead set against this war in part, I think, because you wished to use it as an excuse to oust Bush.
I’ve been dead set against the war, because it’s not a justified war.
Originally posted by Darth Be'lal
I myself am very aware of the dangers of radical islam, and the need to put a stop to it. SOMEBODY has to stand up to Radical Islam, or Western Civilization will be in danger. So I applaud Bush's efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan and hope Democracy can bloom where sown.
Firstly, Radical Islam isn’t going anywhere. You think by us bombing homes, and putting their lands in ruins will make them like us anymore? Give me a break. You are living in a world of fantasy and fiction. We can’t give them a Democracy, because we don’t have enough troops. More US soldiers have died this month then ever before. Think things are improving? Think again.

Originally posted by Darth Be'lal
Dose,

That's just the thing. I don't know if we need more or less troops in Iraq. And news reports are conflictory.


You have been dead set against this war in part, I think, because you wished to use it as an excuse to oust Bush.

I myself am very aware of the dangers of radical islam, and the need to put a stop to it. SOMEBODY has to stand up to Radical Islam, or Western Civilization will be in danger. So I applaud Bush's efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan and hope Democracy can bloom where sown.

Unfortunately, our mainstream media has been in the tank for the Left, and no good info is coming out of Iraq.

You've posted a report saying that some think more troops are needed, I posted one saying LESS troops are needed. I think this Iraq thing is going to have to be played out to see who is right.

Exactly OD! Just like Trav has told you before, an OPINION doesn't make it fact. Just becuase you have (gasp) TWO WHOLE opinions from some generals doesn't mean a god damned thing.

Do you know what “commanders” means? It means more then a few, it means many. These commanders are in Iraq, and they understand fully what we need there. They witness all of what is going on in Iraq, right now. I’ll trust their judgment.

Next, the general (one, see it does not have an S) said that we had more then enough troops. And to my knowledge, he isn’t in Iraq. Which thus means, his opinion isn’t that relevant because he doesn’t witness what is going on in Iraq.

The information I’m presenting is more reliable, and trustworthy.

Oh, and I’m the stupid one. Hahaha

Oops, looks like SAM's last post got deleted. Which is good, because it seriously lacked good taste. And your little collection of pictures is getting a bit old too.

A young friend of mine, (age 21 and attending college up in Birmingham, Alabama), had dinner with us Sat. night. He informed me that his reserve unit out of Albany, Ga. is being called up Jan.
So I guess they are sending more people to Iraq although I am sure some are replacements. He had mixed feelings about going but overall seemed to look foreward to the new life experiences.

Originally posted by Overdose
Yay! You have one general! Good job! You guys are sure getting up there!

shit that s all you have. Mc Peak. Tommy Franks, the commander of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan says other wise. I guess it doesnt matter though, you only hear what you want to hear, and if General McPeak will say it, then by god he is your general!

and bush has said if the commanders ask for more troops he will send them. stop with your little fairy dancing around like you got everyone overdose. so you said we needed more troops in iraq, so what? you also said we shouldnt draft or send NG so you pretty much shot down your own ship. again, big talk, no specifics. about as useful as tits on a boar.

BAGHDAD, Nov. 21 - Senior U.S. military commanders in Iraq say it is increasingly likely they will need a further increase in combat forces to put down remaining areas of resistance in the country.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6550818/

Look what it says, it says “commanders” IN Iraq. When there is an “s” after a word like commander, it means more then one. Plus, they can witness everything that is going on in Iraq…and they fully know what we need.