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Idioteque
11-14-2004, 11:07 AM
Source (http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uscia1114,0,707331.story?coll=ny-top-headlines)

WASHINGTON -- The White House has ordered the new CIA director, Porter Goss, to purge the agency of officers believed to have been disloyal to President George W. Bush or of leaking damaging information to the media about the conduct of the Iraq war and the hunt for Osama bin Laden, according to knowledgeable sources.

"The agency is being purged on instructions from the White House," said a former senior CIA official who maintains close ties to both the agency and to the White House. "Goss was given instructions ... to get rid of those soft leakers and liberal Democrats. The CIA is looked on by the White House as a hotbed of liberals and people who have been obstructing the president's agenda."

One of the first casualties appears to be Stephen R. Kappes, deputy director of clandestine services, the CIA's most powerful division. The Washington Post reported yesterday that Kappes had tendered his resignation after a confrontation with Goss' chief of staff, Patrick Murray, but at the behest of the White House had agreed to delay his decision till tomorrow.

But the former senior CIA official said that the White House "doesn't want Steve Kappes to reconsider his resignation. That might be the spin they put on it, but they want him out." He said the job had already been offered to the former chief of the European Division who retired after a spat with then-CIA Director George Tenet.

Another recently retired top CIA official said he was unsure Kappes had "officially resigned, but I do know he was unhappy."

Without confirming or denying that the job offer had been made, a CIA spokesman asked Newsday to withhold naming the former officer because of his undercover role over the years. He said he had no comment about Goss' personnel plans, but he added that changes at the top are not unusual when new directors come in.

On Friday John E. McLaughlin, a 32-year veteran of the intelligence division who served as acting CIA director before Goss took over, announced that he was retiring. The spokesman said that the retirement had been planned and was unrelated to the Kappes resignation or to other morale problems inside the CIA.

It could not be learned yesterday if the White House had identified Kappes, a respected operations officer, as one of the officials "disloyal" to Bush.

"The president understands and appreciates the sacrifices made by the members of the intelligence community in the war against terrorism," said a White House official of the report that he was purging the CIA of "disloyal" officials. " . . . The suggestion [that he ordered a purge] is inaccurate."

But another former CIA official who retains good contacts within the agency said that Goss and his top aides, who served on his staff when Goss was chairman of the House intelligence committee, believe the agency had relied too much over the years on liaison work with foreign intelligence agencies and had not done enough to develop its own intelligence collection system.

"Goss is not a believer in liaison work," said this retired official. But, he said, the CIA's "best intelligence really comes from liaison work. The CIA is simply not going to develop the assets [agents and case officers] that would meet the intelligence requirements."

Tensions between the White House and the CIA have been the talk of the town for at least a year, especially as leaks about the mishandling of the Iraq war have dominated front pages.

Some of the most damaging leaks came from Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIA's Bin Laden unit, who wrote a book anonymously called "Imperial Hubris" that criticized what he said was the administration's lack of resolve in tracking down the al-Qaida chieftain and the reallocation of intelligence and military manpower from the war on terrorism to the war in Iraq. Scheuer announced Thursday that he was resigning from the agency.


The dems should have worked harder to obstruct Goss's nomination. Time to stop playing nice with these people.

"The German word Gleichschaltung (literally "Synchronising"; synchronization) is used in a political sense to describe the process by which the Nazi regime successively established a system of total control and coordination of all aspects of society. The term itself is a typical Nazi euphemism."

jerejerebinks
11-14-2004, 12:25 PM
OMG!!!

Reading that left a sickening taste in my mouth. I guess we can forget the best man for the job.

Karankawa
11-14-2004, 05:57 PM
If someone in the CIA is leaking information, then they absolutely should lose their job. This is our intelligence people....dont' you get it?

Blibblob
11-14-2004, 06:27 PM
"to purge the agency of officers believed to have been disloyal to President George W. Bush"
"Goss was given instructions ... to get rid of those soft leakers and liberal Democrats. The CIA is looked on by the White House as a hotbed of liberals and people who have been obstructing the president's agenda."
And telling people the truth that the government is hiding, truth that is not dangerous, should be their responsibility. The American people deserve to know what's going on in the government.

Karankawa
11-14-2004, 06:59 PM
That's not a CIA agents' job, Blib. If they want to leak intelligence, they're in the wrong profession. They are compromising national security when they are doing that.

Why am I explaining this to you?? This is so simple, I'm not responding anymore.

Blibblob
11-14-2004, 07:03 PM
I said, telling the American people the truth should be their responsibility. Their responsibility is to the people, not the rest of the government. Compromising national security? That gets thrown around by the government so damn much now, I wouldn't believe that for a half a second. What is so damn important that they have to hide from every American? I can't think of anything. Troop locations? We already know that. What the government is doing with other countries? We deserve to know that. What the government is doing to itself? We deserve to know that too. Government projects? We better know what the hell their doing! It's our government, their responsibility is to us, we have to do nothing for them.

CX returns
11-15-2004, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by Blibblob
I said, telling the American people the truth should be their responsibility. Their responsibility is to the people, not the rest of the government. Compromising national security? That gets thrown around by the government so damn much now, I wouldn't believe that for a half a second. What is so damn important that they have to hide from every American? I can't think of anything. Troop locations? We already know that. What the government is doing with other countries? We deserve to know that. What the government is doing to itself? We deserve to know that too. Government projects? We better know what the hell their doing! It's our government, their responsibility is to us, we have to do nothing for them.

Good point, well made

Echo2
11-15-2004, 10:38 AM
49% of us saw through the lies. This doesn't surprise me at all. bush will do anything to advance his agenda. This is just the beginning. We still have four more years for him to turn America into a police state where the people are only told what he wants them to hear.

Brooks
11-15-2004, 10:57 AM
Some liberals who have influenced the CIA:
Senator Torricelli
Jamie Gorelick
Senator Church
Senator Kerry (only ATTEMPTED to cut funding, no harm)
President Clinton

There are some things each party can do better than the other. I think this is one that has to swing right.

korg
11-15-2004, 01:49 PM
hey brooks, i apologize for anything i've said wrong to you man, you give respect, so you deserve it in return. although i wasnt insulting you personally, i can see how you would come to that conclusion.......sorry man

TheGreat Gatsby
11-15-2004, 07:37 PM
The CIA has been fighting Bush since he took office. Leaks, leaks, and more leaks. Books were written by CIA agents critical of Bush, etc.

They work for Bush. If my employees acted like that, gave me BAD intel, etc., I'd fire them, too.