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vishangel
10-30-2004, 07:24 AM
God is a powerful person.........:)

vishangel
10-30-2004, 07:33 AM
No I dont Think So ......it is nothing !

the J Man
10-30-2004, 04:25 PM
God is the one who created Heaven and earth and crerated all living things. He is the Alpha and Omega, He is the Supreme being that gave us life and knows everything we do, say and think. He is omniscient(all knowing), omnipotant(all-mighty, all-powerful), and omni-present(He is everywhere at all times).

He l;oves us with an everlasting love and desires that all of us come to know Hima s Lord and saviour. Giod exists in three characters. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Son, Jesus Christ, became man and willingly died on the cross for our sins that whosoever belives in Him will never perish but have everlasting life.

God is the only one who can truly give us meaning and purpose in life and can fill the emptiness in someone's life. God has a purpose for all of us. It is up to each one of us to accept His will for our lives.

revenG_DeSire
10-30-2004, 07:29 PM
BEHOLD! THE POWER OF COPY AND PASTE!

lol kidding...well said Jman.

stark
10-30-2004, 07:33 PM
Jman your post makes any response I would attempt, a waste of time...well said.

old-reb
10-30-2004, 08:11 PM
Is the God of the Muslims the same God of the Christians, Jews or Hindu's?

BorgHunter
10-30-2004, 09:26 PM
Hinduism is polytheistic, but the Judeochristian god is the same as the Islamic god, yes.

the J Man
10-30-2004, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by old-reb
Is the God of the Muslims the same God of the Christians, Jews or Hindu's?

Old-reb, Jesus Christ is the one who can wash our sins away. Many religions do teach good works and morals, but teach nothing about salvation. Only Jesus is able to give you salvation. There is no other that can do so. he gave His life on the cross willingly so that whosoever belives in Him will never persih, but have everlasting life.

Muslims may belive that Jesus Christ was a real person and a prophet and good man, but they do not belive that He is the Son of God nor do they belive in Him as Lord and saviour.

old-reb
10-30-2004, 10:44 PM
Hey Jman,

I like your quote at the bottom about building up someone before a day is done. I will "try" to follow that.

I used to knock em down just for fun, but it ain't really funny. They know I am just playing but even playing can hurt.

old reb

DanF
10-31-2004, 08:26 PM
J man, it is good that you have such strong beliefs.
Right or wrong is not the true question. Merely that you have something to believe in when so many do not, is the filling of an emptiness and unrest that many do not enjoy.

the J Man
11-02-2004, 04:33 AM
Originally posted by Dan Fussell
J man, it is good that you have such strong beliefs.
Right or wrong is not the true question. Merely that you have something to believe in when so many do not, is the filling of an emptiness and unrest that many do not enjoy.

But all other could have that if they wanted to. Many in this world are feeling as if they have no hope and that there is no way out of their mess, but Jesus really is the answer.

jerejerebinks
11-02-2004, 11:02 AM
The thing they are missing isn't having faith in something its, its the emptiness in their heart because Christ is absent.

BorgHunter
11-02-2004, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by jerejerebinks
The thing they are missing isn't having faith in something its, its the emptiness in their heart because Christ is absent.
I do not feel like anything is empty. On the contrary, I could not feel happier...unless that is, I had a girlfriend, but that is a different story. :banana:

jerejerebinks
11-02-2004, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by BorgHunter
I do not feel like anything is empty. On the contrary, I could not feel happier...unless that is, I had a girlfriend, but that is a different story. :banana:

You cant decisively say that, because you do not know how it feels to have the Lord Jesus Christ in youre heart.

You may feel like you are happy...but you cant know how better you would/will feel with him in your heart.

BorgHunter
11-02-2004, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by jerejerebinks
You cant decisively say that, because you do not know how it feels to have the Lord Jesus Christ in youre heart.

You may feel like you are happy...but you cant know how better you would/will feel with him in your heart.
B.S., I do too. I used to be a Christian; I prayed and went to church and got "saved" and all that.

jerejerebinks
11-03-2004, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by BorgHunter
B.S., I do too. I used to be a Christian; I prayed and went to church and got "saved" and all that.

You didnt get saved, because you dont even believe in Christ.

You dont truly know what its like.

How would you know what its like to have Christ in your heart and say that there is no Christ?

Blibblob
11-03-2004, 09:28 PM
Because Jesus stepped on an artery! Apparently 2000 years wasn't long enough for him to get "spirit legs".

BorgHunter
11-03-2004, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by jerejerebinks
You didnt get saved, because you dont even believe in Christ.

You dont truly know what its like.

How would you know what its like to have Christ in your heart and say that there is no Christ?
I did, and then I changed my mind about the whole religion thing.

the J Man
11-04-2004, 03:47 AM
Originally posted by BorgHunter
I did, and then I changed my mind about the whole religion thing.

What really caused you to stop beliveing?

jerejerebinks
11-04-2004, 09:46 AM
Hes answered this before....but thats not my point.

The bible says that no man can take you out of his hand. You are an admitted athiest.

There is no "I 'was' saved." Christ offers eternal salvation by grace.

the J Man
11-04-2004, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by jerejerebinks
Hes answered this before....but thats not my point.

The bible says that no man can take you out of his hand. You are an admitted athiest.

There is no "I 'was' saved." Christ offers eternal salvation by grace.

True Jerejere, no man can take you out of God's hand, but we have the choice to take ourselves out of His hand. Also, the enemy(satan and his demons) who work day and night trying to get people to serve satan will work at trying to get christians to no longer serve God.

He mentions that he had been a christian and accepted Jesus. But something must have come against him to get him to change his mind. That is what the enemy wants.

Echo2
11-04-2004, 03:36 PM
quote the JmanGod is the only one who can truly give us meaning and purpose in life and can fill the emptiness in someone's life.

Contrary to popular religious belief. Not all non religious people have meaningless lives that are empty and unfullfiling. Most of us are just like most of you. We have fullfilling lifes, full of good friends and loving famlies. We have values and morals and ethics. We know the difference between right and wrong. We work hard at our jobs, teach our children our values and are law abiding.

It amazes me that religious people think non religious people are psychopaths that kill baby's, rape and murder and steal and have no value system, and have empty, unfulfilling lifes.

I'll bet that if you polled the people behind bars in this country you would find that by a huge percentage their are more people who believe in god locked up for crimes than people who don't believe in god.

Echo2
11-04-2004, 03:39 PM
Crime and Religion
http://www.geocities.com/muse142/religion/crimestats.html

A question that atheists are often asked is "If you don't have a god to give you moral guidance, then you can commit any crime you want, right?" Well, I say go by the statistics. So I looked up a list of crime statistics organized by religion on www.positiveatheism.org, and the results I saw did not surprise me.

In "The New Criminology," Max D. Schlapp and Edward E. Smith say that two generations of statisticians found that the ratio of convicts without religious training is about one-tenth of one percent. W.T. Root, Professor of Psychology at the University of Pittsburgh, examined 1,916 prisoners and said, "Indifference to religion, due to thought, strengthens character," adding that Unitarians, Agnostics, Atheists and Free-Thinkers were absent from penitentiaries, or nearly so.

During 10 years in Sing-Sing, of those executed for murder 65 percent were Catholics, 26 percent Protestants, six percent Hebrew, two percent Pagan, and less than one-third of one percent non-religious.

In Canadian prisons there were 1,294 Catholics, 435 Anglicans, 241 Methodists, 135 Baptists, and one Unitarian.

The superintendent of the N.Y. State Reformatories, checked records of 22,000 prison inmates and found only four college graduates. He commented that "intelligence and knowledge produce right living," and, "crime is the offspring of superstition and ignorance."

A survey of Massachusetts reformatories found every inmate to be religious.

In Joliet Prison, there were 2,888 Catholics, 1,020 Baptists, 617 Methodists and no prisoners identified as non-religious.

Michigan had 82,000 Baptists and 83,000 Jews in the state population; but in the prisons, there were 22 times as many Baptists as Jews, and 18 times as many Methodists as Jews. In Sing-Sing, therewere 1,553 inmates, 855 of them (over half) Catholics, 518 Protestants, 117 Jews, and 8 non-religious.

Steiner first surveyed 27 states and found 19,400 Christians, 5,000 with no preference and only 3 Agnostics (one each in Connecticut, New Hampshire, and Illinois). A later, more exhaustive survey found 60,605 Christians, 5,000 Jews, 131 Pagans, 4,000 "no preference," and only 3 Agnostics.

In one 19-state survey, Steiner found 15 non-believers, Spiritualists, Theosophists, Deists, Pantheists and one Agnostic among nearly 83,000 inmates. He labeled all 15 as "anti-Christians." The Elmira, N.Y. reformatory system overshadowed all others, with nearly 31,000 inmates, including 15,694 Catholics (half) and 10,968 Protestants, 4,000 Jews, 325 refusing to answer, and no unbelievers.

In the East, over 64 percent of inmates are Roman Catholic. Throughout the national prison population, they average 50 percent. A national census of the general population found Catholics to be about 15 percent (and they count from the diaper up). Hardly 12 percent are old enough to commit a crime. That leaves an adult Catholic population of 12 percent supplying 50 percent of the prison population.

HaVoK
11-04-2004, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Echo2
It amazes me that religious people think non religious people are psychopaths that kill baby's, rape and murder and steal and have no value system, and have empty, unfulfilling lifes.

I'll bet that if you polled the people behind bars in this country you would find that by a huge percentage their are more people who believe in god locked up for crimes than people who don't believe in god. If you are any example of non religious, then you and your hatred are not saying much for the rest of atheists.

Of course there are more religious people in this country behind bars. The overwhelming majority are religious in this country, Einstein. Not to mention that most of the people who go to prison "get religion" while they are in there. Everyone knows that most non believers who go to prison turn to God in their time of need.

Vilepagan
11-04-2004, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by HaVoK
Everyone knows that most non believers who go to prison turn to God in their time of need.

I would think a lot of them do it out of sheer boredom, or to get out of work duty or similar unpleasant tasks.

jerejerebinks
11-04-2004, 11:36 PM
I would think most of them do it, because the expeirence opens their eyes and hearts to the Lord.

the J Man
11-05-2004, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by Vilepagan
I would think a lot of them do it out of sheer boredom, or to get out of work duty or similar unpleasant tasks.

Not necessarily. There is a lot of them that truly accept Jesus while they are in prison. There are ministries that go to prisons to minister to them. They realize they need a saviour and are open to the gospel because of the mess they are in. Many, when they have things so good in life, feel as if they don;t need God and want nothing to do with going to church and reading the bible. But those who are in prison, are open to accept the gospel because of the fact they got nothing else to turn to.

the J Man
11-05-2004, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by jerejerebinks
I would think most of them do it, because the expeirence opens their eyes and hearts to the Lord.

Amen!

the J Man
11-05-2004, 04:26 AM
Originally posted by Echo2
quote the JmanGod is the only one who can truly give us meaning and purpose in life and can fill the emptiness in someone's life.

Contrary to popular religious belief. Not all non religious people have meaningless lives that are empty and unfullfiling. Most of us are just like most of you. We have fullfilling lifes, full of good friends and loving famlies. We have values and morals and ethics. We know the difference between right and wrong. We work hard at our jobs, teach our children our values and are law abiding.

Without Christ, there will always be something missing whether one admits that or not. Many people lives are in turmoil. You just don't see that on the exterior. People act as if everything is okay when in relaity it is not.




It amazes me that religious people think non religious people are psychopaths that kill baby's, rape and murder and steal and have no value system, and have empty, unfulfilling lifes.

I don't remember anyone say that on here! I'm sure you don't go out and do these things.

I'll bet that if you polled the people behind bars in this country you would find that by a huge percentage their are more people who believe in god locked up for crimes than people who don't believe in god.

That's because those is prison are willing to accept the gospel and repent of their sins. Prison ministries go into prisons to reach these people with the gospel. That is why so many people in prison are christians. They sure weren't christians before they went into prison, but they are now.