Reading Lionels thread on Outsourcing gave me an idea that would profit America.

Lets Outsource Congress.

Our congressmen make 158,100 dollars per year- plus free private schooling, free cars, free air travel, free college for the wife and kids, free clothes, free gourmet food, free taxis, free perks that they tack on to bills like free health insurance.

We could get an entire congress in a third world for 158,000 dollars a year, a whoping savings for Americans.

hmmmm.

Of course we could Outsource the President-eliminating costly elections,etc.

Gee, this Outsourcing thing could be great! Any more suggestions.

Any more suggestions
Please stop.

Originally posted by The Praetorian
Please stop.

Sorry Praetorian that you fail to see the humor in my statements.
If congress felt the bite of their job being outsourced I believe they would suddenly come up with numerous reasons as to why outsourcing is bad for Americans.

I did see the humor. :) It turns my stomach to see those bastards earn the living they do for "service" to our country, but on the other hand, outsourcing certain jobs has advantages and disadvantages. That's the basis for a truly free market economy. Its capitalism at it's absolute best. In the long run, I think it would teach the overpaid American laborers some humility. We can't afford to pay our manufacturing people $27.00 an hour because of some union if we want to stay competitive in the worldwide market. Nobody else does, so why should we? If a plane catches fire over the water, the first thing you do is throw out items that are likely to catch on fire. You don't keep them on board, and hope things change. I believe it's all about finding an equilibrium, and outsourcing, albeit initially damaging, can help restore a modicum of reality. I think that's what America needs right now.

Originally posted by Dan Fussell
Gee, this Outsourcing thing could be great! Any more suggestions.

Maybe instead of outsourcing we could train some monkeys to randomly press "yes" and "no" buttons.

Originally posted by The Praetorian
I did see the humor. :) It turns my stomach to see those bastards earn the living they do for "service" to our country, but on the other hand, outsourcing certain jobs has advantages and disadvantages. That's the basis for a truly free market economy. Its capitalism at it's absolute best. In the long run, I think it would teach the overpaid American laborers some humility. We can't afford to pay our manufacturing people $27.00 an hour because of some union if we want to stay competitive in the worldwide market. Nobody else does, so why should we? If a plane catches fire over the water, the first thing you do is throw out items that are likely to catch on fire. You don't keep them on board, and hope things change. I believe it's all about finding an equilibrium, and outsourcing, albeit initially damaging, can help restore a modicum of reality. I think that's what America needs right now.


Good point.
I hope Nokia, Sony, Toyota, etc., don't decide that outsourcing is bad. How many jobs would that cost the US?

Originally posted by TheGreat Gatsby
Good point.
I hope Nokia, Sony, Toyota, etc., don't decide that outsourcing is bad. How many jobs would that cost the US?

According to an editorial I saw the other day, about 10x more jobs than we've lost due to outsourcing.

Outsourcing is not the true answer.
Once unions had a place in America to help correct unsafe working conditions, long work weeks and hours, child labor, etc.
The time is over for unions. Corruption and greed was their downfall.

The downfall of outsourcing is that there will come a point when the cheap laborers of other countries will demand more and more once they become aware of their value. The influx of this new money into other economies will increase their lifestyles, education and wants. Demands for more money, working conditions, perks, etc., will start the cycle all over again. It is only a matter of time. The problem is not solved only postponed.
One day the world will see labor problems on merely a larger scale. The foundation of this problem is the seeking by corporations of quick profits from a new labor base. A base that will have a time limit.

Yeah, and in the meantime, we'll get slaughtered financially. Either way, we're due for one helluva reality check.

Originally posted by The Praetorian
Yeah, and in the meantime, we'll get slaughtered financially. Either way, we're due for one helluva reality check.
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Yes, and the reality check will include the the underlying reasons behind outsourcing. If only cheap labor was the reason (for outsourcing) the deep south would be the target of expansion. Down here many people work for minimum wage to 6 or 7 dollars an hour. If cheap labor was the only advantage, locating to the south would be cheaper and transportation of products a lower cost.

There's more to it than that. The domestic minimum wage is still higher than that of, Mexico, Canada, China, or anywhere in Southeast Asia, for that matter, which immediately discounts any real benefit for the manufacturing industry to stay. Couple that with the stranglehold unions place on industry to provide health insurance, dental, matching 401K's, and pensions, and you've got a prime recipe for disaster. Government comes along and appeases the unions by providing all of their employees with high wages (i.e. garbage men), and every benefit known to man, which doesn't help the cause of privateers, because unlike the government, they have a bottom line. Kerry misses that fact...

how does kerry the tax increaser plan on making all those buisness owners who make over 200,000 a year who employ a big % of americans stay in the US? isnt cutting taxes on rih buisness owners more likey to keep them here?

What Kerry, in effect, is doing, is simple. He's increasing the business owner's personal tax burden. Couple that with taxing the hell out of their businesses, levying minimum wage and employee benefit increases, and you've got a jobless industry. Yeah, Kerry really cares about the American worker by insuring that they'll be out of a job because their employers can't compete in a stale, over inflated market. Good plan, asswipe. Kerry: a true man of the people...:rolleyes:

I do not think we will have to worry about Kerry.

Also Praetorian, down here in the South we have few unions. In my lifetime union strength has been mainly in the North.

Originally posted by Dan Fussell
Also Praetorian, down here in the South we have few unions. In my lifetime union strength has been mainly in the North.
Oh, I believe it. Up here, there's a disgusting stronghold the unions have over privatized business. They're fucking price fixers, and nothing more. It doesn't get any more un-American than that, but 20.00 an hour, and every benefit under the sun, just isn't good enough anymore. Their unions stipulate that these clowns are "entitled" to a 3% yearly increase at a minimum. It’s all part of their employee contract (i.e. ball squeeze), and it's freaken sickening...

God damned garbage haulers make more than I do, and I'm a fucking college grad. How do you think that makes me feel?