The discussion has came up, in recent threads, of rather or not we sin.

There have been a few people on this site that have said, point blank, that they do not sin. I disagree, however, because the Bible clearly states, THAT ALL HAVE SINNED and fallen short of the glory of God.

So this thread is designed for us to discuss and debate this whole ideal of sins and what they mean to us and about us.

1. WHAT ARE SINS?

Sin in its simplest form is an act of disobidence to God. If you have broken ANY commandment that the bible has, than you have commited atleast one sin. The Bible gives us commandments that we are to either obey or obstain from. For instance the bible commands us to not kill, to not steal, to not commit adultery, to not take any Gods before THE God, to not commit fornication, to be drunk, homosexual, or a gambler. It also tells us that we should keep the sabbath day holy, that we should honor our parents, that we should be led by God and not by the world.

2. DOES EVERYONE SIN?

Yes. Everyone commits sins. The Bible says For Everyone has sinned, and fallen short of the Glory of God. Obviously, some people commit what we would consider bigger sins (murder, rape, etc), but the Bible says that no sin is more imporant in the eyes of the lord.

3. What can we do about it?

There is only one way we can escape the troubles of sin, and that is to accept Christ as our personal savior and lord. He will wash us white as snow. The Bible says that the lord will take our sins and cast them into a sea of forgetfullness and remember them against us, no more.

4. What happens if I don't?

If you do not accept Christ as your savior you will suffer the consequences of your life of sin. The bible says for the wages of sin is death. An eternal death in Hell.

5. Finally, what have we learned

We have learned that we are all sinners, but that no matter how much we do sin, our savior Jesus Christ will forgive us.

The bible says you have sinned....if you dont believe that, you are sinning.

Originally posted by Rask0lnik0v
i have never broken any of these commandments, nor have i otherwise sinned, and as well Christ can see this.

I have never sinned either nor have I ever made a mistake because nobody would show me how to make a mistake.

In addition to that I have never told a lie. Let me cast the first stone at that woman.

old reb

You are 63 Ol Reb. and have never lied once during those 63 years? You never lied to your parents when you were a child to get out of trouble? You never lied to keep from breaking some hard news to someone? You have never over exaggerated something, like saying you have never sinned?

Originally posted by Rask0lnik0v
the bible does not say that we have all sinned, nor am i lying in my purity.

"FOR ALL HAVE SINNED, AND FALLEN SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD." - Romans 3:23

"THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NO, NOT ONE" - Romans 3:10

sin n.

1. A transgression of a religious or moral law, especially when deliberate.
2. Theology.
1. Deliberate disobedience to the known will of God.
2. A condition of estrangement from God resulting from such disobedience.
3. Something regarded as being shameful, deplorable, or utterly wrong.

This would be the dictionary's definition of "sin".

1. I've certainly violated moral laws in my lifetime, but never religious laws, because I adhere to no religious faith.

2. From a theological standpoint I have not sinned because it would be impossible for me to have done so.

3. I've definitely committed shameful, deplorable, and utterly wrong acts in my life, and have done my best to atone to those I have wronged, and to learn from my mistakes.

The point here is that "sin" and the degree to which one has "sinned" is a matter of personal belief. It is pointless for you to point your finger at someone else and say "they have sinned", because you don't even know which rules they are trying to follow. To make the statement that "all people are sinners" because you believe the bible says they are, is arrogant in the extreme. If you believe that you have sinned and there are certain things you must do to cleanse yourself of responsibility for those sins, you are free to do so, but you really shouldn't go around pointing the "you have sinned" finger unless you are God.

Originally posted by jerejerebinks
You are 63 Ol Reb. and have never lied once during those 63 years? You never lied to your parents when you were a child to get out of trouble? You never lied to keep from breaking some hard news to someone? You have never over exaggerated something, like saying you have never sinned?

I was just poking fun at Raskel.

He who is without sin cast the first stone.

To say that one has never lied is such an obvious lie, so that everyone should be able to see I was telling a lie on purpose.

Raskel talks about Muslims being irrational, he should look in the mirror.


old reb

Originally posted by Rask0lnik0v
whether my words go beyond you to the point that you can only label them irrational is beside the point of rationality or any idea within this thread concerned with the conception of sin.

I think your point was lost amid a sea of gibberish.

Originally posted by Vilepagan
I think your point was lost amid a sea of gibberish. :D

Ha, ha, Pagen you make me laugh. What a good reply.:D

old reb

Originally posted by Rask0lnik0v
the bible is speaking of people who came before the time of jesus, as it was written at this time in history. since the death of christ, and because of it, it is possible to live fully without sin, and i am walking proof of such a fully pure existence.

The Book of Romans was written around the year A.D. 60, which would be nearly 30 years sense the death of Christ.

I am glad, Rask, that atleast you believe in the death of Christ, but we are not perfect until we are with Christ in Heaven.

Originally posted by Vilepagan
1. I've certainly violated moral laws in my lifetime, but never religious laws, because I adhere to no religious faith.

2. From a theological standpoint I have not sinned because it would be impossible for me to have done so.[/QUOTE[

Your defintion plainly tells us that disobidence to God is sin. Your very lack of faith in him, is being disobedient to his commands.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Vilepagan
3. I've definitely committed shameful, deplorable, and utterly wrong acts in my life, and have done my best to atone to those I have wronged, and to learn from my mistakes.

Well you have actually done 2 of the right steps. You have attempted to repent of your sins, by making the wrong, right again, and you have attempted to learn from the mistakes you have made. The only step you are leaving out is, of course, gaining forgivness and pardon of those sins by Jesus Christ.

Originally posted by Vilepagan
The point here is that "sin" and the degree to which one has "sinned" is a matter of personal belief. It is pointless for you to point your finger at someone else and say "they have sinned", because you don't even know which rules they are trying to follow.

I believe the Bible clearly shows us what is a sin, and what isnt. What is a command and what isnt. How we can gain forgivness and how we cant.

Originally posted by Vilepagan
To make the statement that "all people are sinners" because you believe the bible says they are, is arrogant in the extreme.

I am only using what God tells us through his word.

Originally posted by Vilepagan
[BIf you believe that you have sinned and there are certain things you must do to cleanse yourself of responsibility for those sins, you are free to do so, but you really shouldn't go around pointing the "you have sinned" finger unless you are God. [/B]

That's the purpose of this thread. We are discussing sin. We are discussing what sin is, why we sin, why we are sinners, and what God (and other religions are more than welcome) have to say about sin.

Originally posted by jerejerebinks
Well you have actually done 2 of the right steps. You have attempted to repent of your sins, by making the wrong, right again, and you have attempted to learn from the mistakes you have made.

Why, thank you jere...I'm glad you approve.

The only step you are leaving out is, of course, gaining forgivness and pardon of those sins by Jesus Christ.

Yes well, that's nice. When I do something bad to him I'll apologize for it.

I believe the Bible clearly shows us what is a sin, and what isnt. What is a command and what isnt. How we can gain forgivness and how we cant.

I am only using what God tells us through his word.

Except that you don't accept the whole Bible...just that part you want to accept. You pick and choose which commands to follow and which ones to ignore. You believe that homosexuality is a sin, but not eating shrimp, or wearing clothing made from two different fibers, even though the Bible clearly prohibits all three activities. You decide how to judge others based upon your interpretation of what you think God meant when he "inspired" men to write a book 2000+ years ago, and then pat yourself on the back for being a "good Christian", while denouncing all others with a different opinion as "sinners" and hell-bound. Truly an amazing display of arrogance, and self-righteousness.

No one :) is perfect. To aire is human and to forgive divine.

Really? (I've got a feeling that this will be interesting):

Can you please give me an example?

Crime is universal, but sinning is individualistic. Government decides what constitutes a crime, and everyone in a given area is governed by the same goverment. One's belief determines what consitutes a sin, and everyone do not neccessarily have the same belief.

I'm afraid you misunderstood.
I asked for an example, not an explanation.

Sure :) I realize that.
Although if you don't mind, I'd rather see specific examples, and not explanations that can lead to anywhere.

Example: Somebody trips over a kid and hurts him, he made a mistake, but did he sin? No, a sin is delibrate. So nobody is perfect because we all make mistakes, but not everybody sins.

And I have to say, vile, you wrote one of the best debasing of JJB I've ever seen :D


that which you cannot fully comprehend does not require that it be in error or indecipherable to those who can indeed understand words of value.
Or maybe you just royally screwed over the english language by writing a run on sentence that makes no sense at all.

Originally posted by Vilepagan
You decide how to judge others based upon your interpretation of what you think God meant when he "inspired" men to write a book 2000+ years ago, and then pat yourself on the back for being a "good Christian", while denouncing all others with a different opinion as "sinners" and hell-bound. Truly an amazing display of arrogance, and self-righteousness.
I'm so glad that some Christians cared enough about me to engage in an "amazing display of arrogance and self-righteousness" and tell me the truth about my lost condition and point me to the truth of salvation in Jesus Christ.

To believe in the Bible's commentary of sin is the antithesis of self-righteousness. Arrogance and self-righteousness is when someone claims to have never sinned because they don't believe in God's definition of sin.

Originally posted by Rask0lnik0v
infinite examples can be drawn from the explanation.
I believe Innocent sweety was asking you to name one so we can discuss it.

Originally posted by UnCoolDuck
I'm so glad that some Christians cared enough about me to engage in an "amazing display of arrogance and self-righteousness" and tell me the truth about my lost condition and point me to the truth of salvation in Jesus Christ.

I'm glad you were saved Uncool.

To believe in the Bible's commentary of sin is the antithesis of self-righteousness.

You are welcome to believe whatever you like.

Arrogance and self-righteousness is when someone claims to have never sinned because they don't believe in God's definition of sin.


Arrogance and self-righteousness also come into the picture when you attempt to judge me based on beliefs which I do not share. I have no problem with what you believe, it's how you act on those beliefs which I find arrogant. I make no claims to be right about my disbelief in God, or your definition of sin. You on the other hand, along with others, have convinced yourself that you know all about what God's plan is for humanity, based on a 2000+ year-old book. You then presume to tell others that they are "sinners", "wicked" and deserve God's wrath. I make no similar judgements about you, or those who choose to believe as you do, nor do I suggest that you are wrong for living your lives the way you do.

Tell me again how that makes me arrogant and self-righteous.

Originally posted by Vilepagan
Why, thank you jere...I'm glad you approve.

Rather or not that was sarcastic, youre very welcome.


Originally posted by Vilepagan
Yes well, that's nice. When I do something bad to him I'll apologize for it.

You dont believe or accept him as you savior do you?


Originally posted by Vilepagan
Except that you don't accept the whole Bible...just that part you want to accept. You pick and choose which commands to follow and which ones to ignore. You believe that homosexuality is a sin, but not eating shrimp, or wearing clothing made from two different fibers, even though the Bible clearly prohibits all three activities. You decide how to judge others based upon your interpretation of what you think God meant when he "inspired" men to write a book 2000+ years ago, and then pat yourself on the back for being a "good Christian", while denouncing all others with a different opinion as "sinners" and hell-bound. Truly an amazing display of arrogance, and self-righteousness.

Vile,

When you pointed that particular verse out to me way back when, I told you then if the bible commands it, its legit.
Luckily, I dont eat a lot of shrimp....and as far as the clothing.....its 100% cotton, or nothing Baby. :D

Originally posted by Rask0lnik0v
one can be without sin without being perfect, as Jesus Himself was not perfect, but He was fully without sin.


You are demonstrating little knowledge on which you speak.

In one day you have said three obsurd and completly wrong comments.

1. That you are not a sinner.
2. That the verses I showed from Romans was written to people before the time of Christ.
3. That Christ wasnt perfect.


Friend, Christ was perfect in everything. He is the only holy man to ever walk this earth.


Show me one example that proves Jesus was anything even close to not being perfect.

Originally posted by Rask0lnik0v
*zzzzzzzzzz* if you had read the thread you would find that your 2nd and third premises are incorrect. your second is incorrect in that the book was written right after He died, and the third is incorrect in that you misunderstand the word "perfection."

LMBO!!!

Just earlier today, you said that the book was written for people before the coming of Christ....It was I that pointed out to you, that the book wasnt written until after his death....around 30 years.

Are their multiple meanings to perfection? Are their varraying degrees of being perfect? No. Christ was perfect....no ands, but, or ors.

But for kicks and giggles, explain this notion of yours to me...the perfection thing.

Rask.....

Obviously you have little knowledge about the Bible. The Book of Romans was written in the year A.D. 60....which was 60 years after the birth of Christ......now given that Christ lived around 33 years....that would be close to 30 years AFTER his death.

You are either clearly lying, or badly misformed.

Paul wrote 13 books of the bible....and the very earliest he could have wrote any of them was A.D. 54.....you say that most people consider the book to be written shortly after his death and that it suggests that.....give me some proof.

Prove it to me, Rask. You have said a lot of crap, but havent backed anything up with proof. Im calling you out, prove it to me.

Rask, that is completely untrue. I have read enough literature on Biblical history, and most people certainly do NOT think the New Testament books were published immediately after his death.

Rask, yet again, show me any proof that you are correct. Give me a link that tells me the book of Romans was written any time shortly after the death of Christ.


Dont just say that we are wrong, show us that we are right Rask. Back up one of your outlandish claims for once.

Originally posted by jerejerebinks
Vile,

When you pointed that particular verse out to me way back when, I told you then if the bible commands it, its legit.
Luckily, I dont eat a lot of shrimp....and as far as the clothing.....its 100% cotton, or nothing Baby. :D

I would like to point out that the Bible says that homosexuality is not just wrong, but that homosexuals should be put to death. Do you believe that this is God's holy command? If it is should it be followed? If it isn't, how did it get into the Bible?

Originally posted by Rask0lnik0v
your claim is incorrect, and everyone knows so intuitively.

Here are some links that says otherwise....

http://home.hiwaay.net/~wgann/walk_nt/romans.htm


http://www.christistheway.com/2004/a04a03aa.html


http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/viewnz/23-06-Romans.html

Originally posted by Vilepagan
I would like to point out that the Bible says that homosexuality is not just wrong, but that homosexuals should be put to death. Do you believe that this is God's holy command? If it is should it be followed? If it isn't, how did it get into the Bible?

By put to death, it means go to hell.

Homosexuality, and I mean this in no disrespect, is clearly stated as an abomonation to God. I know we've discussed this in the past, and MO is still that if you have these urges....but do not act upon them, than you are not commiting the sin.

Notice it says if a man lie with another man he shall surely be put to death....not if a man thinks another mans cute, he shall surely be put to death.

I disagree Rask.

Unlike you, I actually go by what the word of God teaches, and not whatever trolling technique sounds good:D

Originally posted by Rask0lnik0v
to deny the truth of what God means is indeed one way which you yourself can cover for these homo erotic urges you are having, which apparently you cannot otherwise explain.

LMAO!!!!!


I was not the homosexual one, Rask.

If I am wrong about my opinion on that verse of the Bible, and I may be, atleast I am using a verse in the bible, and not just my own opinion with no merit or evidence.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

I think this makes you, what, 0 for 30 on being right on something youve said?

Heres a couple things that are wrong with your statment.

1. I did not say that ~I~ think men are cute.

2. Heres what you said on the topic earlier.

yes, if you are a homosexual and do not correct yourself, you are doomed to hell, but if you yourself are a homo, then you need only overcome these urges, but if you have such sinful urges, you can still be saved, if only you do not act upon them.

and a second ago you said this...

while you may not outright say that you are wrong in thinking that another man is cute because you indeed do not pursue it in that you will make sexual advances toward that man, by being attracted to these other men as you are, indeed by definition requires that you are a homosexual.

Ok.

Now I know you are trolling.

Those two statements are so incrediably controdictory its not even funny....but, hey, when have you ever been right about anything?

And, apparently you do not know how to read along with your problems of getting things right.

Im going to use one of your lines....GO BACK AND REREAD WHAT I SAID.

The same away you are expected to give us your feelings on biblical evidence, when you dont understand any of it, remotely correctly.

And no, those two points do not agree what-so-ever.

You really are a joke, man.

You do not go by what the word of God teaches, nor do you have any proof of what you ever say, other than just saying you are right.

You do not belong here.

Originally posted by Rask0lnik0v
to deny the truth of what God means is indeed one way which you yourself can cover for these homo erotic urges you are having, which apparently you cannot otherwise explain.


HAHAHAHAHAHA....Jere's been "outed"....

ROFLMAO

:lolhit:

Originally posted by jerejerebinks
You really are a joke, man.

You do not go by what the word of God teaches, nor do you have any proof of what you ever say, other than just saying you are right.

I really love it when two Christians argue about what God "really" meant. :corn:

You do not belong here.

He belongs here as much as you do jere...

Originally posted by Vilepagan
HAHAHAHAHAHA....Jere's been "outed"....

ROFLMAO

:lolhit:

You know, Pagan, last night when I made that post about respecting people on here that I disagreed with, You were one of the ones I was talking about, but I guess the feeling isnt mutual.

You mean the way you called me Gay because you cant come up with any evidence of any of the bull crap you have posted?

You are a complete idiot.

I never said anything in the sort......What a moron!!

We were discussing homosexuality as a sin, and the difference between homosexual sexuality, and just a physical attraction that gay men have for each other.


We were not talking about anyone BEING Gay.

Heres an all too common question that seems to be your kryptonite.

Can you provide any evidence....?

Rask0lnik0v you’re ridiculous. Jerejerebinks didn’t say he personally thought men were cute. He was just pointing out that if he thought that, but didn’t act upon his thoughts, it would not be sin.

Do you understand what a hypothetical is? It’s when you bring up a situation, that may or may not apply to you and use it to make a point. The point he was trying to convey was that if a man thinks another man is cute, it is not sin because he does not act upon his urges.

God specifically stats that it is only sin if you “lie” with mankind. If you want to stay with the specifics, Jerejerebinks is correct. If you want to get into interpretation, you could be correct.

Thank God! A Voice of Reason!

Thanks OD.

Originally posted by jerejerebinks
You know, Pagan, last night when I made that post about respecting people on here that I disagreed with, You were one of the ones I was talking about, but I guess the feeling isnt mutual.

Oh c'mon jere, you have to admit there's a certain irony about some yahoo showing up here and deciding that you are gay...I can't stop giggling.
:D

Actually it is kind of funny, but I thought you was acting like he was serious....and if people seen you saying it, they might think it was true, and that just wouldnt be a good situation all around.

On a lighter note, I wonder if he is ever figured out what I meant in that post.

Originally posted by jerejerebinks
Actually it is kind of funny, but I thought you was acting like he was serious....and if people seen you saying it, they might think it was true, and that just wouldnt be a good situation all around.

I think I can speak for all gay people everywhere when I say...we gay people are glad you aren't gay also...:D

:eek: ......should I take that as an insult?

Youre so far off target, youre not even on the radar.

You have been here three days...and you think you know from my postst my charatersistics and tendecies? We were talking about what things a homosexual do that would be a sin, and what, in my opinion would not.

I never said that I practiced either characteristic, and I do not. If you want to know the truth, you show homosexual tendecies in acting like someone else is...looks like your covering your on homo erotic mind up from view. (sarcasm off)

Obviously, if you look at what others have said, you see that no one agrees with your foolishness.

Take this for example:

Rask0lnik0v you’re ridiculous. Jerejerebinks didn’t say he personally thought men were cute. He was just pointing out that if he thought that, but didn’t act upon his thoughts, it would not be sin.

Do you understand what a hypothetical is? It’s when you bring up a situation, that may or may not apply to you and use it to make a point. The point he was trying to convey was that if a man thinks another man is cute, it is not sin because he does not act upon his urges.

God specifically stats that it is only sin if you “lie” with mankind. If you want to stay with the specifics, Jerejerebinks is correct. If you want to get into interpretation, you could be correct

To no surprise, you are wrong yet again.

As a woman, I have looked at other women and thought to myself. "Now that's a beautiful woman". Does that make me a homosexual? NO. It makes me able to open my mind up and see the human body as a beautifull thing. It has never crossed my mind to have sex with a woman. I just don't find them attractive in that way.

Just because I can differentiate between an ugly woman and a beautifull one does not make me a homosexual.

Some people are so dirty mined and have so many sexual hang ups that they have to build little walls in their minds to protect themselves from their own thoughts. Rask0lnik0v is one of those people. The idea that he could realize that a man is handsome scares the hell out of him so he closes that part of his mind off and uses his twisted religious theology to support doing it.

Me thinks he protests too much. People that afraid of noticing beauty in their own gender are afraid of their internal thoughts.

Originally posted by Rask0lnik0v
i'm sorry, but men in and of themselves are never what we would call beautiful, but jerejerebinks behaves in a way we would call, so flamoyantly, that one can only insinuate that he indeed has a homosexual nature, whether he has acted out upon these urges or not.

Obviously you have issues with your sexuality. Men can be good looking. I think most men are capable of realizing that some men are just plain better looking than others and that noticing that does not make them homosexual.

Judgeing the looks of a person is no different than judging the looks of a picture or animal or achitechture or landscape. Some things are pleasant to look at and some are not. The fact that you reflect your perverted sexual hangups onto how you view other men tells us volumns about you and your sexual fears.

The fact that you make nasty insinuations about someone you know nothing about speaks volumes to your mental state.

It also shows us all just how "christian" your thinking is. How would jesus judge that type of behavior? You are the type of person that gives christians a bad name.

Originally posted by Vilepagan
I really love it when two Christians argue about what God "really" meant. :corn: Raskov is not a christian. He/she is simply a TROLL

Rask needs to be banned.

Originally posted by Rask0lnik0v
well, you seem quite open in your sexuality, but perhaps it is because you have had so many partners, not that this is something by which you would judge yourself.

I vote to ban this troll. He adds nothing to the discussions and posts flames and insults.

Of course I'm sinfull. I'm not you. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am a Taoist so your christian slurs don’t bother me in the slightest.

What bothers me is that you have added nothing of substance to any of the strings in our forum. Hate filled insults are a waste of space and everyones time.


BAN THE TROLL Rask0lnik0v

Ban this troll, Borg. It's not even a funny troll.

Enjoy yourself while it lasts, baffoon. ;)

Wow! His whole existence wiped from the forum. Don't mess with people in here.
I wonder how he responded to the questions I asked him...is there any way to find out?

He got the royal banment.

How did that work, because Authetic Fan was banned but I can still read all his posts?

Originally posted by jerejerebinks
He got the royal banment.

How did that work, because Authetic Fan was banned but I can still read all his posts?
Well, the guy really clogged up the Religion forum with troll-ish crap. Rather than post around it, I did a Mass Prune on his user name and deleted all his posts. I didn't do that to TAF because he did not have as many posts in a short period, and thus did not clog up any forums. Also, TAF had a couple decent posts in places, while this guy had none (to my knowledge).

Incidentally, if this guy had posted in any forums other than Religion, the posts are still there. I only Mass Pruned his username in the Religion forum.

Stark: I'm afraid not. His posts were wiped from existence permanently, and there's no way to retrieve them once a mod has deleted them.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
His posts were wiped from existence permanently, and there's no way to retrieve them once a mod has deleted them. No big loss there. Thanks for the prompt actions. :)

Yep!

Good Job Borg!

I actually have a lot to say about sin, what it is, how it got, here, etc. But would you guys really want to here it?

Absolutely! I didnt make this thread for my health, lol.

If you want to see my quick little tid bits of info on the topic its the 2nd or 3rd post in the thread.

Originally posted by Jwjames111
I actually have a lot to say about sin, what it is, how it got, here, etc. But would you guys really want to here it?

The sin of mankind is what has left this world is such a mess. When we sin, we offend God, we often hurt others and even ourselves. The only waqy to deal with sin is through the Lord Jesus Christ who will wash our sins away if we repent of our sins and ask Him for forgiveness. We have all sinned and need a saviour. It is Jesus who is the one who paid the debt of sin on the cross of calvary for anyone who would belive inHim and accept HIm as Lord.

If anyone thinks they have never sinned, they certainly deceive themselves. Even unrightoeuss thoughts are sin before God.

Exactly Right j man!

Sin is a deliberate disobediance to God, and god hates Sin. It is so nice to know, that in our failer, our savior is perfect, and is so perfect that he can wash away our sins, and make us white as snow.

Oh, what a lord we serve.

Originally posted by Jwjames111
I actually have a lot to say about sin, what it is, how it got, here, etc. But would you guys really want to here it?

As soon as you get a chance James, Id be glad to hear your opinion.

And that goes for anyone, of any faith or denomination.

Let me bump this thread up, because I actually do want to know James's opinion on this.

I have only a slight understanding of Salvation and Sins, JW style, and I would like you, James, to tell me about it.

SIN


Anything not in harmony with, hence contrary to, God’s personality, standards, ways, and will; anything marring one’s relationship with God. It may be in word , in deed (doing wrong acts or failing to do what should be done ), or in mind or heart attitude. Lack of faith in God is a major sin, showing, as it does, distrust of him or lack of confidence in his ability to perform. A consideration of the use of the original-language terms and examples associated with them illustrates this.

The common Hebrew term translated “sin” is chat·ta´th´; in Greek the usual word is ha·mar·ti´a. In both languages the verb forms (Heb., cha·ta´´; Gr., ha·mar·ta´no) mean “miss,” in the sense of missing or not reaching a goal, way, mark, or right point. At Judges 20:16 cha·ta´´ is used, with a negative, to describe the Benjamites who were ‘slingers of stones to a hairbreadth and would not miss.’ Greek writers often used ha·mar·ta´no with regard to a spearman missing his target. Both of these words were used to mean missing or failing to reach not merely physical objects or goals but also moral or intellectual goals or marks. Proverbs 8:35,_36 says the one finding godly wisdom finds life, but the ‘one missing [from Heb., cha·ta´´] wisdom is doing violence to his soul,’ leading to death. In the Scriptures both the Hebrew and Greek terms refer mainly to sinning on the part of God’s intelligent creatures, their missing the mark with regard to their Creator.
Man was created in “God’s image.” He, like all other created things, existed and was created because of God’s will. God’s assigning work to him showed that man was to serve God’s purpose on earth. According to the inspired apostle, man was created to be both “God’s image and glory” , hence to reflect the qualities of his Creator, conducting himself so as to reflect the glory of God. As God’s earthly son, man should resemble, or be like, his heavenly Father. To be otherwise would be to contradict and reproach the divine parenthood of God.

Jesus showed this when encouraging his disciples to manifest goodness and love in a way surpassing that done by “sinners,” persons known to practice sinful acts. He stated that only by following God’s example in mercy and love could his disciples ‘prove themselves sons of their Father who is in the heavens.’ Paul ties in God’s glory with the matter of human sin in saying that “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” At 2_Corinthians 3:16-18; 4:1-6 the apostle shows that those turning from sin to Jehovah “with unveiled faces reflect like mirrors the glory of Jehovah, [and] are transformed into the same image from glory to glory,” because the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, shines through to them. The apostle Peter quotes from the Hebrew Scriptures in stating God’s express will for his earthly servants, saying: “In accord with the holy one who called you, do you also become holy yourselves in all your conduct, because it is written: ‘You must be holy, because I am holy.’”
Sin, therefore, mars man’s reflection of God’s likeness and glory; it makes man unholy, that is, unclean, impure, tarnished in a spiritual and moral sense.

All these texts, then, stress God’s original purpose that man should be in harmony with God’s personality, be like his Creator, similar to the way a human father who loves his son desires the son to be like him as to outlook on life, standards of conduct, qualities of heart. This, of necessity, requires man’s obedience and submission to the divine will, whether that will is conveyed in the form of an express commandment or not. Sin, thus, involves a moral failure, a missing of the mark, in all these aspects.

Thats just the simple definition. If you want more specifics, i can provide them

Interesting JW on your interpretation of sin.
Wish we had a way of hearing the interpretation of sin by representatives of the other hundreds of religions on the earth.

Originally posted by Dan Fussell
Interesting JW on your interpretation of sin.
Wish we had a way of hearing the interpretation of sin by representatives of the other hundreds of religions on the earth.

The one thing that none of these religions teach is: salvation in Jesus Christ. Many religions do teach good works and morality, but nothing is mentioned about man's need for a saviour.

Originally posted by the J Man
The one thing that none of these religions teach is: salvation in Jesus Christ. Many religions do teach good works and morality, but nothing is mentioned about man's need for a saviour.

Why do you think this fact was overlooked by all other religions?

Theres a couple other reasons Dan.

1. Not every religion believes in Christ. 2. Some religions believe in Christ, but does not believe the bible when it says for he is the only way into heaven.

if you notice J Man i did post that perhaps i would write more. Unless of course you werent including myself when you said none. But anywho...

You are exactly right. Salvation does lie only in Christ. Now shall I get into specifics, or is the knowledge alone that I do believe that salvation comes only through Christ good enough. I will leave that up to you guys...

LOL, If you want to make a point, do it, you dont need our permission.

You know Jere, since you post most of the time just to post, it's really irritating to see you take up half a page with a sig. How bout resizing?

You know Havok...if you want to be a jerk about something, try doing it through a PM.

Originally posted by jerejerebinks
You know Havok...if you want to be a jerk about something, try doing it through a PM.
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Originally posted by jerejerebinks
You know Havok...if you want to be a jerk about something, try doing it through a PM. You're right. Next time i will.

I welcome it, if you feel the need.