I don't know if this has been discussed here. This is a link to a company that has a process patented, and one commercial scale plant up and running. They convert almost any organic material to oil. This would include turkey parts left over at the slaughterhouse, as in their commercial plant. Their process should work on almost anything from plastics to old tires, to coal, to municipal sewage. I have read articles about this in discover magazine, and also in a magazine put out by MIT.

http://www.changingworldtech.com/home.html

It looks pretty good to me. Any other opinions?

Imagineer,
Always glad to see alternative fuel interest.

In most cases of alternative fuels the amount of energy required to convert them to a usable product is very high. This energy usually is provided by a power plant and they are powered by fossil fuels.

This is one problem I see with the Hydrogen economy that has been proposed. While oil, natural gas, coal, and wood are all sources of energy, Hydrogen is a (carrier) of energy. The fuel cell itself must be charged by other sources of energy. While hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, on earth it exists in two major forms, water and methane (nataural gas). Since fuel cells require pure hydrogen it must be extracted from its natural bond which requires a substantial amount of energy.

The site of your post may be what I know as Biodiesel fuel. Biodiesel is derived from animal and vegetable oils.

Ethanol is another primary hope of alternative fuels, derived from corn, But I am not sure the world is capable of producing enough quantity of crops if we had to solely depend upon it as a power source. Especially with the water shortages I expect to occur in the coming years with only 3% of the worlds water being fresh water and most of that locked away in ice or too far below the surface of the earth to be extracted.

I really believe our government has the potential to produce cheap energy and is being with-held until the non-renewable sources are exhausted due to financial and power ploys.
This will be the day when such things will be used even more to control the peoples of the world.


Sorry I got carried away, I am just kind of fired up with the way big governments operate to keep people under the impression that they live in a democratic society. When they are truely controlled by what the government allows them to have.

This is not biodiesel. This is conversion to actual crude, in the same sort of chemistry that real crude uses. The process generates mostly 4 to 8 carbon chains. Incidently, the cost is roughly $7 a barrel to produce crude.

This process will convert coal int oil, or pulp wood, or old tires, or the contents of a super fund site. There is a waste stream. of course. the non-hydrogen and non-carbon components of whatever material is used. Contrary to previous chemistry, this process makes petroleum in the presence of water, and the waste stream winds up dissolved in the water, or as a sludge beneath it. The oil floats on top, naturally.

This guy is going to be very rich soon. The reason he hasn't expanded faster is that he isn't willing to sell percentages of his company, or his patent, to obtain financing. He has one major partner so far, Con-Agra, who financed his first full scale plant in Carthage, Missouri. It takes the waste from a Butterball turkey slaughterhouse, the feathers, feet, etc. and produces oil of a Pennsylvania Crude quality. He has been operating for a year there, and the only technical problem has been in the grinders to prepare the waste, they tended to jam up with feathers, and had to be redesigned. The chemical process works.

What is really interesting is the quality of the executives he has brought on board to handle the finacial end of things. These are not the type of executives usually available to a startup company. They are successful executives who have been recruited from well established companies.

This has the potential to revitalize the petroleum economy, at an affordable cost, and could potentially make the United States a net oil exporter. The exciting thing is that it is real, and it is now.

For years the major oil companies have bought up all the patents they could for alternative energy and engines that run on alternative energy. Gotta keep those profits comin'.

This guy refuses to sell. He will liscense use of his patent, but retains ownership. Also, making oil at $7 a barrel, and selling it on the open market at $50 a barrel is a profitable enterprise. I expect him to become a major player shortly.

I would not want Con-Agra as a partner. The same company that had the CIA run out the President of a country because he was going to give the land con-agra had (acquired) back to his people.

I agree that Con-Agra has done bad things. I doubt there is a major corporation in this country that hasn't at one time or another done something despicable. This however is a good thing. They have liscensed the technology from the owner, and are doing something productive and profitable.
Even bad people do something good sometimes, and good people can do bad things. Very few people or corporations are all good or all bad. The good things that people or corporations do should be supported, and the bad things condemned and punished.

Originally posted by Echo2
For years the major oil companies have bought up all the patents they could for alternative energy and engines that run on alternative energy. Gotta keep those profits comin'.

Right, because they'd rather share a small percentage of the existing market instead of generating massive profits from being the sole provider of a wonderful source of energy. Not to mention that patents are public record and expire after 20 years, so these great inventions would be available to anyone that wanted them by now. Don't let that stop you from making stuff up, though. :rolleyes: