A new poll in 35 countries suggests that people around the world would prefer Democratic challenger John Kerry as US president over George W Bush.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3640754.stm

Kerry/Bush

Norway: 74%-7%
Germany: 74%-10%
France: 64%-5%
Italy: 58%-14%
Spain: 45%-7%
UK: 47%-16%
Canada: 61%-16%
Mexico: 38%-18%
Brazil: 57%-14%
China: 52%-12%
Japan: 43%-32%
Indonesia: 57%-34%
India: 34%-33%
Philippines: 32%-57%
Nigeria: 33%-27%
Poland: 26%-31%
Thailand: 30%-33%

The only thing that matters is who the american voter supports.

Do you think the rest of the world has the best interest of the U.S.A. at heart by supporting Kerry? So who cares which one they support.

HaVok I'm surprised that you are not in the Kerry camp with his litigous supporters.

no wonder the liberals want a world government so bad, then tehy could have their liberal democrats running the entire world forever, thank god for the USA right?

Anyone basing their vote for president on the desires of those outside of the country is completely stupid. Overdose probably belongs at the top of that list. Why on earth would you bring up such a subject?

First of all, this is world news and that is why I posted it. Honestly, you’re right it does not matter what they think, because they can’t vote. But it’s interesting to see how the world thinks, and since this is world news, I think this is a meaningful thread.

Banquo when did I say I was going to vote for John Kerry because of what the world thought? Because firstly I can’t vote, and secondly if I could, I wouldn’t let the world sway my opinion. Don’t make assumptions that are not true.

But, this is world news, and that is where you go and post things about the world. And the world supports John Kerry…so I suggest everyone take a chill pill.

I doubt if the people in those countries have any clue what either Bush or Kerry stand for.

Originally posted by Karankawa
I doubt if the people in those countries have any clue what either Bush or Kerry stand for.
I agree with you. The world may support John Kerry, but that is really irrelevant to anything, especially because they are not affected by what does here.

I still support Kerry...I just don't think this really matters...

I have a feeling the only reason they support Kerry is because he's the democratic candidate going against Bush.

lol? When did I say this matters? Do you people not understand that this is World News? And that since the world supports John Kerry, it is fairly big news. I suggest everyone stop thinking, I meant this as a reason to sway voters. I understand it does not "really matter", but in the world news section, it matters .

Originally posted by Blibblob
I have a feeling the only reason they support Kerry is because he's the democratic candidate going against Bush.

that's why EVERYONE supports him.

No, not everyone supports him. We'll all see just how many support him come the ::crossed fingers:: day after election day. Whatever the outcome, let us all hope the 3 ring circus of 4 years ago is not repeated. Whoever gets to occupy the White House as the next sitting POTUS needs to have won a clear victory that we all just have to live with.

by everyone i meant everyone whop supports him. I'm not actually deluding myself that everyone supports kerry.

Originally posted by Karankawa
I doubt if the people in those countries have any clue what either Bush or Kerry stand for.

People in many countries are way more interested in politics that the average american, and that since US decisions affect much more than just american people, many forigners are very interested in american elections.

Blip is right though. I don't know for other countries, but in France most people don't really give a damn about Kerry - they just think that 4 more years with Bush would be a worldwide disaster.

I remember a few years ago, maybe for the 1988 or 1992 elections, I saw liberal american people on Tv who said that if the republican was elected they considered living their country. I found this rather odd.

Now, it seems the option for us earthlings if Bush is elected is to leave the planet.

I am sure that there are certain citizens of all countries that would like to see the United States fail as a country period.
Some meddling in world affairs carried on by covert actions by both of our political parties was unwanted.
But, to sit back and be benign is to eventually find yourself weak and surrounded by enemies. I believe the world in general sees John Kerry as a weaker person than Bush. Less agressive and more inclined to be persuaded by political pressure.
Remember that the temperament of many foreign countries has led to their being controlled by kings, queens, and dictators in the past.
The American attitude on the preservation of personal freedoms is often misunderstood. It cannot be comprehended in some societies that we would rather die than suffer under tyranny.

Originally posted by es347fan
Whatever the outcome, let us all hope the 3 ring circus of 4 years ago is not repeated. Whoever gets to occupy the White House as the next sitting POTUS needs to have won a clear victory that we all just have to live with.

I totally agree.
The American public will not tolerate another "fixed" election/appointment. If the GOP tries it again there will be rioting in the streets.

Originally posted by Echo2
I totally agree.
The American public will not tolerate another "fixed" election/appointment. If the GOP tries it again there will be rioting in the streets.

LMAO, as I said earlier, no matter the outcome people like echo are already setting up their arguments for fixes and fraud. ITs becasue they think they and their ideas are so superior, that for them to lose would have to take a fraud or lie or something.

Originally posted by Travh20
LMAO, as I said earlier, no matter the outcome people like echo are already setting up their arguments for fixes and fraud. ITs becasue they think they and their ideas are so superior, that for them to lose would have to take a fraud or lie or something.

Trav- I think you better get a refund from the school of psychic mind reading. You got cheated. It isn't that I think the dems ideas are so superior, it is that I know the republicans are that crooked.

Some would say the same about Democrats, you realize....don't you?

Do you ever worry that people might perceive that you are unable to think for yourself? I ask this because every post you make seems to blindly spew Democratic rhetoric. You seem to be one of the many liberal posters that we have here at allforums that cannot think for yourself. You just copy and paste whatever happens to be on Kerry.com that day, and run with it.

I dont think that all republicans are crooks....I dont think all democrats are crooks.

But 9 out of 10 politicans are.

Originally posted by Dan Fussell
I am sure that there are certain citizens of all countries that would like to see the United States fail as a country period.

Maybe true but irrelevant. People don't want Bush not because they believe he would make the USA stringer, but because they see him as a dangerous lunatic.


Some meddling in world affairs carried on by covert actions by both of our political parties was unwanted.


True.


But, to sit back and be benign is to eventually find yourself weak and surrounded by enemies. I believe the world in general sees John Kerry as a weaker person than Bush. Less agressive and more inclined to be persuaded by political pressure.


Once more you totally misunderstand the perception people have of Bush. They don't see him as a strong leader who is dangerous for their country's interest because he will support american interests. They see him as a dangerous idiot, who has no knowledge of international politics and whose decision will only lead to global disasters.


Remember that the temperament of many foreign countries has led to their being controlled by kings, queens, and dictators in the past.
The American attitude on the preservation of personal freedoms is often misunderstood. It cannot be comprehended in some societies that we would rather die than suffer under tyranny.

I don't see preservation of personal freedoms under Bush's regime. He was not fairly elected. His "Patriot act" is a spooky example of how a democratic society can turn into a police regime. And the way he acted as regard to international law (Iraq, Kyoto, Interantional court) makes him a global outlaw rather than an example.

Maybe this seems biased and unfair. Maybe it is. But face it : that is the way most people in the world see Bush.

It's the way I see him too.

Astrapol, this is a question I have for you. Does the world know that at least half of America is with the world on this? And that we are not full of Bush supporters?

Originally posted by Overdose


Astrapol, this is a question I have for you. Does the world know that at least half of America is with the world on this? And that we are not full of Bush supporters? At least half? Where do you get this information? I have a feeling come election time, your above statement will be proven incredibly false.

Originally posted by Echo2
I totally agree.
The American public will not tolerate another "fixed" election/appointment. If the GOP tries it again there will be rioting in the streets.

Are you saying that you will take to the streets if Bush wins again. The Democrats tried to recount and recount until they could tease out a victory.

It is true that Gore won the popular vote but Bush won the Electorial vote but I didn't see any democrats taking to the streets when kennedy lost the popular vote but won the electorial votes.

old reb

Originally posted by HaVoK
At least half? Where do you get this information? I have a feeling come election time, your above statement will be proven incredibly false.

Lets see, Gore won the popular vote. And Bush is an even worse candidate now...at least in my opinion. But going off last years results, more Americans are with the world.

Originally posted by Overdose
Lets see, Gore won the popular vote. And Bush is an even worse candidate now...at least in my opinion. But going off last years results, more Americans are with the world.
Gore still did not win 50% of the vote.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Gore still did not win 50% of the vote.

Well, then let me rephrase my stance...since we are getting so anal about this.

The majority of Americans (that voted) supported Gore. And they most likely now support John Kerry. Which means that more Americans are on board with the world and their thoughts of George Bush. Is that okay for you now Mr. Borgy?

Originally posted by Overdose
Well, then let me rephrase my stance...since we are getting so anal about this.

The majority of Americans (that voted) supported Gore. And they most likely now support John Kerry. Which means that more Americans are on board with the world and their thoughts of George Bush. Is that okay for you now Mr. Borgy?
Better. You originally said "at least half", which was incorrect. :)

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Better. You originally said "at least half", which was incorrect. :)

Ummm, well I still think at least half are against George Bush in the United States. But, if you want to be anal (like you do Mr. I really am not gay, but I love to be anal), more supported Gore then Bush. Which means, (most likely) more support Kerry them Bush. Which means, more are most likely with the world on their disgust for Bush.

Originally posted by Overdose
It's the way I see him too.

Astrapol, this is a question I have for you. Does the world know that at least half of America is with the world on this? And that we are not full of Bush supporters?

Thank you for making me "representant of the rest of the world" ! ;)

Honestly, I don't know for the rest of the world, but I think that many people in France are aware that Bush's policy is not what all american want . They also know that Bush would not have been elected in a regular election.

Michael Moore is very popular here, precisely because he represents another face of america, that people consider more friendly and more human than Bush and his team.

During the demonstration against the war in Iraq last year, there were always many american people living in France amongst demonstrators, and they were given a warm welcome by the french crowd.

Really, there is no strong anti american feeling in Europe, rather a strong anti Bush feeling.
But if Bush was reelected in november, people would probably think : "the american must be really mad to elect him again in spite of all his lies !".

Originally posted by Overdose
It's the way I see him too.

Astrapol, this is a question I have for you. Does the world know that at least half of America is with the world on this? And that we are not full of Bush supporters?

LOL, again, France is the world, or in this case, one guy in france on a message board. Poor overdose is so vut off from the world in this Bush dictatorship, he really needs to reach out and et the real scoop, and make sure people know he is with them, not with america

America's relations with other countrys is at a supreme low. We are becoming a tyrant of the world, and other nations, however looking up to us, dont want us to be a bully.

Quite frankly, I dont either.

Originally posted by jerejerebinks
America's relations with other countrys is at a supreme low. We are becoming a tyrant of the world, and other nations, however looking up to us, dont want us to be a bully.

Quite frankly, I dont either.

i agree.

THANKS:D lol