http://www.guerrillanews.com

LOL...

And you call CNN crediable and I can't stop laughing at that thought... sluts

[quote:1d16d2b5c5="ConfusedYouth"]And you call CNN crediable and I can't stop laughing at that thought... sluts[/quote:1d16d2b5c5]

I prefer the Fox News Channel, but I'm sure it is no where near as accurate as guerrillanews.com

Can't you see any ass can make a website and call it crediable....... I've seen conservative websites that you would find stupid......

[quote:0f06f02194="ConfusedYouth"]Can't you see any ass can make a website and call it crediable....... I've seen conservative websites that you would find stupid......[/quote:0f06f02194]

Yes, that's my point, but I bet you believe the majority of what's on guerrillanews.com. THere's a whole legion of pinkos on their MB.

I never heard of the site in my life up until a couple days ago. More than often I receive my news from Znet.org.

[quote:da45db4717="ConfusedYouth"]I never heard of the site in my life up until a couple days ago. More than often I receive my news from Znet.org.[/quote:da45db4717]

I'll have a look at it.

Fox News?! You actually admit to trusting Fox News?! I'm sorry, but I just can't take a reporter seriously when he calls news stories "ridiculous," "silly," or "stupid," and I hear the news anchors on Fox refer to people and topics like that every time I've ever watched. Reporters, real reporters anyway, are not supposed to share their opinions like that.

I don't mind when O'Reilly or some of the others with their own talk shows do it. Hosts of talk shows are allowed a little more room for their personal views, but the regular news feed that is aired during the day is not the place for a reporter to interject anything personal.

CNN is better in this regard. At least, the reporters don't roll their eyes while interviewing guests or make rude remarks based on nothing but personal opinion. However, CNN's reporting is often shotty and incomplete.

I prefer to read and watch a variety of sources, including news stations from other countries, to try and form my own more well-rounded view.

The Link station has a great news show from the Middle East called Mosaic. BBC is really good, although, I can tell they are following the way of American based news sources and trying to make a better grab for ratings (what a shame). The United Press International is a good site found at http://www.upi.com/index.cfm and there are many others, you just have to read carefully and watch out for and not buy the slant.

[quote:962884b145="J_Lively"]Fox News?! You actually admit to trusting Fox News?! I'm sorry, but I just can't take a reporter seriously when he calls news stories "ridiculous," "silly," or "stupid," and I hear the news anchors on Fox refer to people and topics like that every time I've ever watched. Reporters, real reporters anyway, are not supposed to share their opinions like that.

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Yeah, I do trust Fox News. And their comments don't bother me because I actually agree with them. Buzz off, pinko.

Oh no he called you a pinko!!! ahhh... what is this world coming to!

Fox news sucks I watch BBC world news very good source of info.

I may be biased being British but BBC World is far and away the best news and current affairs programme there is - always has been. I don't agree at all that it is following the American style of reporting to boost ratings. I occassionally watch CNN just to get an alternative slant on things - I wouldn't criticise their coverage I just believe the BBC is far more professional, easier to follow and less repetitive.

[quote:ad13800798="DaveTooner"]Yeah, I do trust Fox News. And their comments don't bother me because I actually agree with them. Buzz off, pinko.[/quote:ad13800798]

I don't need a reporter to agree with me -- I don't hunger for that type of pat on the back.

I don't want to be told what to think. I just want to hear the story and make up my own mind about whether it is wrong, right, good, bad, etc.

[quote:dfc836e683="Reban"]I may be biased being British but BBC World is far and away the best news and current affairs programme there is - always has been. I don't agree at all that it is following the American style of reporting to boost ratings. I occassionally watch CNN just to get an alternative slant on things - I wouldn't criticise their coverage I just believe the BBC is far more professional, easier to follow and less repetitive.[/quote:dfc836e683]

I am a real fan of BBC. I like to get international news and not just hear stuff from the American slant.

My comment was in reference to the head of BBC saying that they were going to revamp their image to be able to gain more popularity. That may not mean anything bad, but I worry when news sources want to win people over. I worry that it adds a bias and concern that wasn't there before -- that shouldn't be in news.

[quote:409d9dc7a9="ConfusedYouth"]Oh no he called you a pinko!!! ahhh... what is this world coming to![/quote:409d9dc7a9]

What the bloody hell is a pinko, anyway?

If I am going to stoop to calling someone a name, it is at least going to be a common enough usage that they get my point. Otherwise, it is a waste of time and precious ugly energy. :twisted:

[quote:adf76ea74f="J_Lively"][quote:adf76ea74f="DaveTooner"]Yeah, I do trust Fox News. And their comments don't bother me because I actually agree with them. Buzz off, pinko.[/quote:adf76ea74f]

I don't need a reporter to agree with me -- I don't hunger for that type of pat on the back.

I don't want to be told what to think. I just want to hear the story and make up my own mind about whether it is wrong, right, good, bad, etc.[/quote:adf76ea74f]

This is ridiculous. Just because I agree with them doesn't mean they "told me to." Why is it that liberals time and time again INSIST that conservatives are somehow "blind followers" or they can't "think for themselves" Absolutely hogwash.

And pinko simply means liberal. Stop getting so excited when I say it, people -- it's really not a big deal.

[quote:e8ea3a6f67="DaveTooner"]This is ridiculous. Just because I agree with them doesn't mean they "told me to." Why is it that liberals time and time again INSIST that conservatives are somehow "blind followers" or they can't "think for themselves" Absolutely hogwash.

And pinko simply means liberal. Stop getting so excited when I say it, people -- it's really not a big deal.[/quote:e8ea3a6f67]

Perhaps you don't feel that "they told you so," but how many people out there are being programmed? Why does Fox News allow such unprofessional comments if they aren't trying to endorse and encourage some sort of belief? It is not the place of the press to program us (although, it does happen). That is why reporters and journalists are not supposed to share their personal views.

Maybe you look for something different in news, however, I just want to be told the facts, nothing but the facts, and I can form opinions for myself. I wouldn't support a news source that allowed reporters to make personal comments even if I agreed with those comments -- that's not what news is meant to be! I read editorials for that.

BTW, I don't mind at all when you call me a "pinko." I was clueless as to what it meant, though.

Another BTW, I don't think that conservatives hold the monopoly on the "blind sheep mentality."

Sorry, above message is from me. Forgot to log in. :oops:

[quote:25626c4dc5]Perhaps you don't feel that "they told you so," but how many people out there are being programmed?[/quote:25626c4dc5]

Probably not many. Contrary to popular liberal belief, most people will believe what they believe regardless of the opinions of news personalities.

[quote:25626c4dc5]Why does Fox News allow such unprofessional comments if they aren't trying to endorse and encourage some sort of belief? It is not the place of the press to program us (although, it does happen). That is why reporters and journalists are not supposed to share their personal views.[/quote:25626c4dc5]

If I give you my opinion right now, am I programing you? Ridiculous. I'm assuming you're talking about just general news segments on fox and not things like Hannity and Colmes (bet you love Colmes). If so, I do not see this "unprofessional behavior." Won't say I've NEVER heard it, but if I have, I don't remember it, which tells me it must not happen too often.

Also, if FOX tries so hard to push their "conservative" (i think that's the view point you libs say they push) views, then why do they have people like Alan Colmes, Greta Van Sustren, and Geraldo Rivera? And also why would these people WANT to work for Fox if Fox is so conservative?

[quote:7714f9f977="DaveTooner"]Probably not many. Contrary to popular liberal belief, most people will believe what they believe regardless of the opinions of news personalities.[/quote:7714f9f977]

Yeah right. There are no ignorant or young, easily influenced people in our society -- oh Pluhheeease.

And I really don't understand why you think this is a popular belief among "liberals." According to conservatives like O'Reilly, Pat Robertson, Dr. Laura, etc. our nation is in the gutter because we are programmed by the liberal media, the amoral rock music, and the gay characters on sitcoms. I hear conservatives give this issue more attention than any other group.

Also, please note, that unlike many conservatives, I have never said that Fox News should be shut down or taken off the air. I've simply stated that I don't like the channel and why. I think the only reason any program should ever be taken off the air is lack of viewers.

[quote:7714f9f977="DaveTooner"]If I give you my opinion right now, am I programing you? Ridiculous. I'm assuming you're talking about just general news segments on fox and not things like Hannity and Colmes (bet you love Colmes). If so, I do not see this "unprofessional behavior." Won't say I've NEVER heard it, but if I have, I don't remember it, which tells me it must not happen too often.[/quote:7714f9f977]

Honestly, I've never watched Hannity and Colmes. As I said, I don't watch Fox News very often. I am also assuming that Hannity and Colmes is a talk show based on current events and politics -- like I said, it is okay for the host of a talk show to share personal feelings.

My comments were made about the general news feed during the day, Fox Live. I do not feel these sorts of comments are appropriate for the general news segments... and yes, I have witnessed comments and actions like those I posted about every time I have watched Fox News.

I think perhaps you do not notice the comments and attitudes because they are singing a song that is music to your ears.

[quote:7714f9f977="DaveTooner"]Also, if FOX tries so hard to push their "conservative" (i think that's the view point you libs say they push) views, then why do they have people like Alan Colmes, Greta Van Sustren, and Geraldo Rivera? And also why would these people WANT to work for Fox if Fox is so conservative?[/quote:7714f9f977]

These people you have named have nothing to do with the subject at hand. I am not concerned with Fox's talk show hosts. I am talking about the daily news feed.

Colmes can say anything he likes on his show with Hannity -- Colmes is not a reporter! Neither is Greta Van Sustren... and I'm not sure what Rivera is, well, except an error in judgement for hiring.

Do you know the difference between actual news, and shows done about the news? It is much like the difference between an editorial (where it is appropriate to share ones opinion) and a front page news story (where personal opinion does not belong).

First of all....isn't this the conservative hangout?....Is there not somewhere for ConfusingYouth to go and speak to people of his or her likeness?....Obviously this little forum was for Conservatives to talk and agree or disagree on subjects....not to consistantly debate with liberals or Confusians.....Now, let me start out by saying to Dave (a conservative in the "conservative hangout") I agree with you and the fact that FoxNews is a reliable source of information with no spin to its stories like CNN....

Your buddy JWB posted in the Liberal department so it's my duty to post in the coservative section.

You must get a different Fox News than everyone else because when I watch Fox News all I see are biased reports from some dumb white guy.

"For better or for worse, our company is a reflection of my thinking, my character, my values." -- Fox News

I did not post in the liberal area, the thread was moved away from another area.

[quote:8e317613d0="Euphoriaan"]First of all....isn't this the conservative hangout?....Is there not somewhere for ConfusingYouth to go and speak to people of his or her likeness?....Obviously this little forum was for Conservatives to talk and agree or disagree on subjects....not to consistantly debate with liberals or Confusians.....Now, let me start out by saying to Dave (a conservative in the "conservative hangout") I agree with you and the fact that FoxNews is a reliable source of information with no spin to its stories like CNN....[/quote:8e317613d0]

Dave and a few other conservatives have also been habitually posting in the liberal folder. I don't really think it matters much. What good comes from always surrounding yourself with people who agree with you? I would rather exchange ideas with *everyone*.

Also, I'd love to hear why you trust Fox News so much? I have made very specific comments as to why I hold my position, I am curious about yours.

Fox News definitely spins. I like to just be told the facts and nothing but. I just want to hear the "who's, when's, why's, how's and where's." I can form an opinion for myself.

I find the conservative vs. liberal comments and debate here so funny. Everyone has these stereotypes that are so untrue about what ALL liberals do or what ALL conservatives think. It's as false as saying all ethnic people are rude or all southerners can't read.

I think the conservative vs. liberal debate went stale long ago. No one really cares now. Today the real political debate falls between moderates vs. extremes. That is a topic that is even splitting party lines.

[quote:5aba95f94c]Yeah right. There are no ignorant or young, easily influenced people in our society -- oh Pluhheeease.

And I really don't understand why you think this is a popular belief among "liberals." According to conservatives like O'Reilly, Pat Robertson, Dr. Laura, etc. our nation is in the gutter because we are programmed by the liberal media, the amoral rock music, and the gay characters on sitcoms. I hear conservatives give this issue more attention than any other group.

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I didn't say NONE, I said probably not many. At least not as many as you would have us believe.

I agree with the opinions you just stated. But we are talking about FoxNews now, and that is not liberal media. Also, I can't stand Dr. Laura, btw.

Also, like JWB said, the thread in the lib section with my post was moved there.

My post have been moved here by uh me...

To complicated to understand??

[quote:d683100fae="DaveTooner"]I agree with the opinions you just stated. But we are talking about FoxNews now, and that is not liberal media. Also, I can't stand Dr. Laura, btw.[/quote:d683100fae]

But, isn't Fox just as guilty as any "liberal" news source? They do not offer fair and balanced news, they just offer news that is to the other extreme of liberal bias, and that is just as bad.

[quote:d683100fae="DaveTooner"]Also, like JWB said, the thread in the lib section with my post was moved there.[/quote:d683100fae]

I was not aware of this, and I have to admit, I would have never posted in this folder had it not seemed to matter where we posted. After I am done with this thread, I will move on.

[quote:4e86359328="J_Lively"][quote:4e86359328="DaveTooner"]I agree with the opinions you just stated. But we are talking about FoxNews now, and that is not liberal media. Also, I can't stand Dr. Laura, btw.[/quote:4e86359328]

But, isn't Fox just as guilty as any "liberal" news source? They do not offer fair and balanced news, they just offer news that is to the other extreme of liberal bias, and that is just as bad.

[quote:4e86359328="DaveTooner"]Also, like JWB said, the thread in the lib section with my post was moved there.[/quote:4e86359328]

I was not aware of this, and I have to admit, I would have never posted in this folder had it not seemed to matter where we posted. After I am done with this thread, I will move on.[/quote:4e86359328]

Fox is fair and balanced in my opinion.

Of course your going to say that because Fox News caters to your views.

[quote:c297c3fac4="DaveTooner"]Fox is fair and balanced in my opinion.[/quote:c297c3fac4]

I guess this is just where we will have to agree to disagree. I don't feel that Fox is fair and balanced at all.

[quote:c7b9a77fa5="J_Lively"][quote:c7b9a77fa5="DaveTooner"]Fox is fair and balanced in my opinion.[/quote:c7b9a77fa5]

I guess this is just where we will have to agree to disagree. I don't feel that Fox is fair and balanced at all.[/quote:c7b9a77fa5]

Ok. Afterall, they report, you decide.

Actually- pinko refers to socialism/communism as opposed to liberalism. It's derived from the Red Army of the old USSR, Red Square etc. Hense, Pinko was a watered down form of communism- or as many would say- socialism. Since we live in a democracy- calling someone a pinko doesn't even really apply. But if it make them feel good, why worry about it.

Yes, but it is used as a term for liberals now even though that isn't the origin. I'm just going by the dictionary here.

That's true. This becomes a difficult debate for me though. If you go too far left, your in danger of socialist programming (although on health care I'm not too concerned), but if you go too far right you start setting up a society akin to aristocracies of old- where there is only an elite class that benefits. The rich get richer through tax breaks and loopholes and theivery(Look at Enron- they should get 30 years!- but they won't- why? because they are the elite).
I'm scared with the House, Senate, Executive, and Judicial branches all ultra conservative, we are in for a descending ride.
And one last thing- What's up with Corporate Welfare? Why are we paying for them to get wealthier?

This sort of site makes me rather embarrassed that they have Democratic beliefs, many the same as mine. Of course, I don't believe the "news" they put there.
Oy vey...