I just think its ironic that the man who is running for president of the United States is also honored in a Korean museum for his anti-american war stance back in the vietnam war. Kerry is actually accepted and honored by the Koreans...for all the reasons he wants us to forget.

hell, he is also honored by the commie Vietnamese for his efforts in helping them defeat the americans

http://www.tinyvital.com/Misc/KerryHonoredByCommunists2.htm

link (http://www.tinyvital.com/Misc/KerryHonoredByCommunists2.htm)

Originally posted by Decka
I just think its ironic that the man who is running for president of the United States is also honored in a Korean museum for his anti-american war stance back in the vietnam war. Kerry is actually accepted and honored by the Koreans...for all the reasons he wants us to forget.

Would that be the North Koreans or the South Koreans? Could you provide a link?

Originally posted by Travh20
hell, he is also honored by the commie Vietnamese for his efforts in helping them defeat the americans

http://www.tinyvital.com/Misc/KerryHonoredByCommunists2.htm

link (http://www.tinyvital.com/Misc/KerryHonoredByCommunists2.htm)

Iteresting...the article claims:

The photograph, displayed in a room dedicated to foreign activists who contributed to the Communist victory in the Vietnam War, shows Senator John Kerry being greeted by Comrade Do Muoi, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam.

Yet the caption of the photo supposedly reads:

Mr. Do Muoi, Secretary General of the Vietnam Communist Party met with Congressmen and Veterans Delegation in Vietnam (July 15-18, 1993)

So, in fact Kerry was there as part of a Congessional delegation to Vietnam, and the caption in no way suggests that he was being "honored" by the Vietnamese, or singled out in any way...pretty slim Trav.

Relating what you've come to know about his vehement anti-Americanism during Vietnam War, what do you think, Vile? There were even rumors of his affiliation with the communist party after he came home and supposedly chucked his medals, but oh well...we can't prove anything.

I guess it's an assumption, but given the nature of his politics in the 60's, it wouldn't have at all surprise me if he were an advocate for the communist governments of both Vietnam and North Korea.

kerry met with the N vietnamese leaders DURING the vietnam war in Paris, they broadcast his statement before the US Senate over loud speakers to the POWs in the Hanoi Hilton. THey are not honoring him for being part of some obscure delgation in 1993, believe me

Originally posted by Travh20
kerry met with the N vietnamese leaders DURING the vietnam war in Paris, they broadcast his statement before the US Senate over loud speakers to the POWs in the Hanoi Hilton. THey are not honoring him for being part of some obscure delgation in 1993, believe me

the link you provided didn't say they were honoring him at all...it insinuated it

your right, that picture of him shaking hands with the communist leaders was really a shot at his staunch oppposition to the communist take over of south vietnam :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Travh20
your right, that picture of him shaking hands with the communist leaders was really a shot at his staunch oppposition to the communist take over of south vietnam :rolleyes:

No Trav, as it said in the link you posted, that picture was of Kerry when he was part of a Congressional delegation visiting Vietnam in 1993...were all the other Congessmen in the delegation Communists too or just the one you are trying to smear? :confused:

Originally posted by The Praetorian
Relating what you've come to know about his vehement anti-Americanism during Vietnam War, what do you think, Vile? There were even rumors of his affiliation with the communist party after he came home and supposedly chucked his medals, but oh well...we can't prove anything.

I guess it's an assumption, but given the nature of his politics in the 60's, it wouldn't have at all surprise me if he were an advocate for the communist governments of both Vietnam and North Korea.

Well Praetorian, I don't think that being opposed to the Vietnam war was a sign of "Anti-Americanism".

As to your suggestion that he was a Communist...::chokes on tongue due to laughter::

http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_4232.shtml

check it out pagan

Originally posted by Travh20
http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_4232.shtml

check it out pagan

Interesting, if somewhat biased.

First of all, the site you cite (no pun intended), calls itself the "Most In-depth, Conservative, Honest News"...Conservative I'll grant you...

This is not to say that because it's a coservative site it must be false, but at least even they admit they have a bias.

Ignoring that for a moment, the first sentence of the article states:

A photograph of Senator John F. Kerry, being honored for special contributions to the communist victory from the Marxist government of Vietnam, hangs in the War Remnants Museum (formerly the War Crimes Museum) in Ho Chi Minh City (formerly Saigon).

You provided a link in another post that mentions this same photograph, and it describes this photograph thusly:

Mr. Do Muoi, Secretary General of the Vietnam Communist Party met with Congressmen and Veterans Delegation in Vietnam (July 15-18, 1993)

Which should we believe?

Should we believe that Kerry traveled to Vietnam with other Congessmen, and other veterans, to be personally "honored" by the Communists?

or...

Should we believe that a conservative website would deliberately phrase their description of a photograph to discredit Kerry as much as possible?

I know which one is more believeable to me...

The article also mentions Kerry's visit to Paris in 1971 and suggests that he violated (US Code 18, USC 953) which prohibits private citizens from engaging in "free-lance" diplomacy. Well, he probably did. The afforementioned Code is sometimes referred to as the Logan Act and was passed in 1799, and has been revised, in minor ways, since then. The one interesting thing about this law is that apparently no one has ever been prosecuted under this law, despite the fact that it has been violated many times.

http://slate.msn.com/?id=2071186

The article you cite is undoubtedly biased Trav, and several times makes that very clear. For one, they mention the photograph several times, and even intersperse a little truth in their description of it:

The photograph of the event can be viewed on the internet at www.wintersoldier.com. It depicts Kerry being greeted by the future general secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, Comrade Do Moi. This photo of the former enemy's special recognition is apparently not displayed on the wall of Kerry’s Senate office,

They describe the photo here as "Kerry being greeted" which is true, and then say he is receiving "special recognition" which is true as far as him being a Congressman, but the insinuation is that he's being recognized for helping the Communists, which is just dishonest. They go on to say the photo is "apparently" not displayed in Kerry's office, which shows that they don't know if it is or not, and while it wouldn't surprise me if it were not displayed, the insinuation here is that this photo is something he should hide, which clearly it is not.

The article goes on to suggest that Kerry was guilty of "giving aid and comfort to the enemy", a suggestion that he committed high treason. This is an absolutely absurd statement. I understand that you can look back at what Kerry did in 1971, and with the advantage of hindsight it might appear that what he did was treason, but you must look at what he did in the context of the times.

In 1971 this country was in upheaval over our involvement in Vietnam. If you think this country is divided today over abortion, or gay rights, it's a walk in the park compared to the mood in this country in 1971. Many people were against the war, and protested against it, including many who fought in it. This does not make them traitors. This makes them very concerned citizens who protested according to their beliefs . To be honest Trav, you just had to be alive during that period to understand the mood of this country. No amount of reading about it will adequately convey the anguish that was felt by a great many people over this country's policies in Vietnam.

I was 14 when the Vietnam War ended, which means I was old enough to be aware of the country's mood, and I had just started to worry about what I would do when I was drafted. I had pretty much decided that if I was drafted, I would go, and serve, but I also know that had I been a little bit older, I would have been amongst those protesting against our government. Does that make me a traitor?

I would love to get a copy of the photo, only to pray that I'd have the chance to actually meet John Kerry with a red sharpie to have him sign it for me personally. That would positively rock!!! I'd frame that one, for sure...:)