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Decka
08-31-2004, 07:35 AM
Here's some of the latest polls

Rasmussen: Bush 47% Kerry 46%

Time: Bush 46% Kerry 44%

CNN/Gallup/USAT: Bush 48% Kerry 46%

NBC/WSJ: Bush 47% Kerry 45%

LAT: Bush 47% Kerry 44%

ABC: Bush 48% Kerry 48%

Lungdop Philing
08-31-2004, 08:21 AM
Zogby (http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=9160) is the only poll that counts -- the rest are trash.

Dop

Decka
08-31-2004, 08:26 AM
just curious...what makes zogby so special?

Lungdop Philing
08-31-2004, 09:02 AM
He's runs a true poll, not an overnight or daily poll and not an analysis poll.

In '00 he was the only pollster that nailed it right on.

All those polls you list had Bush beating Gore by 5-10 points with just a couple of days before the election. Zogby had it dead even and also mentioned Gore would take the popular vote. You can't call it any closer than that and he does it time and again. That's why people pay for his service -- the others are free cause that's all their worth if even that.

In '00, the other pollsters were off by 5-10 points which in the polling business is totally unacceptable and in the real world no one in any job that misses the mark by that much would still have their job -- it would be grounds for firing. A 3rd grader could guess and come closer than 5-10 points.

Dop

Decka
08-31-2004, 09:28 AM
i have to disagree with you on that one Lung. I did a HUGE report on the election in 2000 for my senior project....and that included updates on major polls. Bush never had a 5-10 point lead in ANY poll i saw. Gore was up in some and Bush was up in some, it was very close. I think you just like zogby because it actually has kerry winning.

Lungdop Philing
08-31-2004, 09:55 AM
Most polls had Bush clearly ahead and here's the key words "just before the election" as I previously stated. Then on the day before they all adjusted their numbers down to try to line up with Zogby who they knew had the real numbers.

They purposely misled the public in an effort to get bush elected. Their data shows it.

Zog rules.

Dop

Travh20
08-31-2004, 10:42 AM
LOL, of course the only one that counts to dop is the one that show kerry leading, the rest are trash, LMAO, your losing it dop.

Lungdop Philing
09-08-2004, 10:34 AM
BWAhahahahaha ......

Newsweek and Time both BUSTED for bogus poll -- ROTF

They got their core data from Rasmussen and then massaged the data to create the 11 point lead for bush and released it to the public. Rasmussen, noticing this, outs them and shows the data could only correctly produce a 2 point lead -- never an 11 point lead. Best part is ... Zogby also has a 2 point lead to corroborate the Rasmussen data.

If Newsweek or Time intentionally relased false polling data to the public with the intent to sway an election, they should be facing federal charges and rumor has it, there's a possibility that is exactly what will happen. Stay tuned.

Dop

Travh20
09-08-2004, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Lungdop Philing

If Newsweek or Time intentionally relased false polling data to the public with the intent to sway an election, they should be facing federal charges and rumor has it, there's a possibility that is exactly what will happen. Stay tuned.

Dop

ROTFLMAO, you better throw all the alphabet channels and AP in there too dop, notto mention the NYT, LAT, the chronicle and all the others.

jerejerebinks
09-09-2004, 07:12 PM
If any of them do it, they should suffer the same consequences.

Green_Eyed_Girl
09-10-2004, 12:46 PM
I am wondering... what could make someone want to vote Bush? :confused:

Echo2
09-10-2004, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by Green_Eyed_Girl
I am wondering... what could make someone want to vote Bush? :confused:


STUPIDITY

A liar is a liar. And no matter how they try and sugar coat it, our current comander in cheif is a liar. The entire world knows it. Most republicans know it too but they hate democrats so much many of them are willing to re-elect a liar.

The same thing happened when CLinton got re-elected. Everone knew he was a liar, but he was re-elected anyway.

Evil Homer
09-10-2004, 05:10 PM
I must say echo. Your rhetoric has grown much more intense recently.

Travh20
09-10-2004, 05:55 PM
her desperation is showing.

Decka
09-11-2004, 12:42 AM
Echo, if you are going to hate on George W. Bush for "supposedly" lying......than you have to hate John Kerry just as much or ten times more...because Kerry lied UNDER OATH to congress about where he was in cambodia. He also recently lied about his stances on the war, changing them from week to week. He's been called wrong by thousands of Vets in vietnam.....So don't play the hypocracy game.

4MAWEARS
09-11-2004, 02:36 AM
Originally posted by Echo2
STUPIDITY

A liar is a liar. And no matter how they try and sugar coat it, our current comander in cheif is a liar. The entire world knows it. Most republicans know it too but they hate democrats so much many of them are willing to re-elect a liar.

The same thing happened when CLinton got re-elected. Everone knew he was a liar, but he was re-elected anyway.

Truly a desperate idiot that has totally lost it!