While war is filling the headlines and newspapers...i found it interesting that war itself is on the decline, as reported by peace researchers. The number killed in battle has fallen to it's lowest point in the post-World War II period. Peace-making missions are growing in number. Maybe there's hope for the world yet...and maybe us being over in Iraq isn't as bad as its made out to be.

And maybe magical purple bunnies live in a world of Jelly Beans.:rolleyes:

and maybe i am now dumber for reading that last post.....

Point is Decka...(pains me to disagree with you, because I am a regional president for the club DECA, which I love dearly, lol anyway)....deep down, and you can still be a Bush supporter, you cant actually agree with whats going on over there.

Bush himself has already said that this war cant be won, yet we still have our men and women over there dying....for what? The fact that Saddam tried to kill the current presidents father? We were led to this war based on pretensive lies, and distortions.

You can support Bush and the republican party til your blue in the face (or red I guess in ur case, lol) but its not gonna change the fact, that the war is wrong, and way out of hand.

Originally posted by Decka
The number killed in battle has fallen to it's lowest point in the post-World War II period. Peace-making missions are growing in number.

Yes... I don't find much hope in these statistics (could you give us the source please ?)

1- Lowest point for number kiled ON THE BATTLE FIELD. Unfortunately the las decade has shown that modern wars victims are almost civilians. Rwanda, Yugoslavia, Sudan, Congo : hundreds of thousand innocent people, women, kids and babies...
It's still happenning in Sudan and Congo.

2- Peace making missions are growing in number : precisely the proof that there are more problems to solve !

Aren't you, like the press, being excessively pessimistic perhaps? Civilians have been targetted by war since biblical times, and the combined totals of the "modern" examples you've cited don't match the civilian casualities of WWII, for example.

Let's withold such pessimistic replies until we have some information to work with.......

Decka, do you have a cite for your assertion?

Originally posted by astrapol2
Yes... I don't find much hope in these statistics (could you give us the source please ?)

1- Lowest point for number kiled ON THE BATTLE FIELD. Unfortunately the las decade has shown that modern wars victims are almost civilians. Rwanda, Yugoslavia, Sudan, Congo : hundreds of thousand innocent people, women, kids and babies...
It's still happenning in Sudan and Congo.

2- Peace making missions are growing in number : precisely the proof that there are more problems to solve !

Originally posted by jerejerebinks

Bush himself has already said that this war cant be won

your going to ride that one till the wheels come off arent you?

Originally posted by Leper
Aren't you, like the press, being excessively pessimistic perhaps? Civilians have been targetted by war since biblical times, and the combined totals of the "modern" examples you've cited don't match the civilian casualities of WWII, for example.


The ratio of civilian death/total casualties is constantly increasing. And the fact that the total figure does not match WWII is a poor compensation.

Cambodia : 1 million civilians killed
Rwanda : over 800 000 civilians killed
Sudan : 2 millions civilians killed.

And we're talking about countries were the total population was under 10 millions.

Originally posted by Travh20
your going to ride that one till the wheels come off arent you?

Travh,

Well honestly, I've only mentioned it a few times, but a statement such as that really is rediculous.

I do not believe for a second that he only meant the war is going to be tougher.....that makes no sense whatsoever. As I pointed out in another post, how do you go from that to "accidently" saying the war cant be won.

If our president cant distinguish between things like that, I dont want him making other decisions for us.