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Decka
08-30-2004, 01:03 AM
Why is it about this book cover, poster, (whatever it is.....of John Kerry raising an up-side-down American flag) ? Why is it being eliminated from being seen? Ive heard that copies of the books are being eliminated, ive SEEN sites on the internet with the picture Inaccessable because of some actual legislation??? Why is John Kerry hiding his past? Its obvious he doesn't want this image or book to be in the public light. This coupled with the non-release of his records indicates that John Kerry has an awfully big skeleton in his closet, in my opinion of course. A president's life should be an open book....we should all be able to see what stands he's taken and who he really is, because he's representing us. It just seems that Kerry is closing that book.

Vilepagan
08-30-2004, 09:21 AM
Just out of curiosity Decka, what do you think it would mean to raise an American flag upside down?

Echo2
08-30-2004, 10:13 AM
Back in the 60's when he did it meant that one disagreed with American policies. But I would guess that the neocons have made up some sort of evil meaning to it in yet another pitiful attempt to try and make Kerry look bad.

The neocins can't find anything good to say about their own candidate, so they must resort to trying to slander their opponant.

Backing a candidate that hasn't done anything but harm in four years gives them nothing to brag about. It is so transparant and so pitiful. Makes one almost feel sorry for them.

Vilepagan
08-30-2004, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by Decka
Why is it about this book cover, poster, (whatever it is.....of John Kerry raising an up-side-down American flag) ? Why is it being eliminated from being seen? Ive heard that copies of the books are being eliminated, ive SEEN sites on the internet with the picture Inaccessable because of some actual legislation??? Why is John Kerry hiding his past? Its obvious he doesn't want this image or book to be in the public light. This coupled with the non-release of his records indicates that John Kerry has an awfully big skeleton in his closet, in my opinion of course. A president's life should be an open book....we should all be able to see what stands he's taken and who he really is, because he's representing us. It just seems that Kerry is closing that book.

The following is a link to a site run by Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry, where they claim that a picture of a book cover was removed because their server was threatened by legal action if they didn't. They don't say why they were threatened, nor exactly who threatened them, only that it was done by "lawyers representing John Kerry's interest", which I think is rather vague. The site also includes a link to another site which contains the images that VVAJK claims they were forced to remove.

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com/page2.html

It seems odd that this group doesn't include the name of the law firm that supposedly "forced' them to remove the images, or the reason for that removal, like copyright infringement etc. They just claim they were "forced" to take the images off, and then direct you to a place where you can see these supposedly "suppressed" images. It also seems somewhat curious that there is no mention of this in the "mainstream" media. I did some searching on various sites but could find no substantive information that would confirm that Kerry's campaign is engaged in a cover-up of any such photos.

Travh20
08-30-2004, 01:01 PM
ya, kerry and edwards would never threaten someone to get them to shut up :rolleyes:

Vilepagan
08-30-2004, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
ya, kerry and edwards would never threaten someone to get them to shut up :rolleyes:

And you would never resort to unsupported innuendo...

Trav, if you have something to say that you can at least attempt to back up with facts then please do so, otherwise I think we all know how you feel about Kerry, so spare us more of your snide remarks.

Travh20
08-30-2004, 02:26 PM
unsupported? I suppose you were asleep when the kerry team threatened TV stations that played the swift boat ad with lawsuits, or how they tried to get the publisher to stop printing the book, or how they begged the president to make it stop. perhaps you are also unaware of Kerry's 1972 book the new soldier, that he has forbiden re release of and even turned down an offer from Jon Oneill to publish the book for free. its obvious there is something in the book he doesnt want seen. normally people are proud of books they have authoured, not try and hide from them.

Vilepagan
08-30-2004, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
unsupported? I suppose you were asleep when the kerry team threatened TV stations that played the swift boat ad with lawsuits, or how they tried to get the publisher to stop printing the book, or how they begged the president to make it stop. perhaps you are also unaware of Kerry's 1972 book the new soldier, that he has forbiden re release of and even turned down an offer from Jon Oneill to publish the book for free. its obvious there is something in the book he doesnt want seen. normally people are proud of books they have authoured, not try and hide from them.

I'm sorry Trav...you mentioned threats in regard to the topic we're discussing now...I'm aware of everything you have to say about the SBVFT...you posted it ad nauseum.

Just for the sake of argument, let's say that as you put it "Kerry and Edwards" threatened someone with a lawsuit...if these people were in the right why not challenge the suit in court? If in fact Kerry has the copyright to his book (which I was aware of, and if you had read the link I posted you'd have known that), he has sole rights to publish it or not at his discretion, and perhaps that's why the website was told to remove the images. Now you can claim that it "must mean he has something to hide" but that's still unsupprted innuendo. What do you make of the fact that the website didn't say why they were forced to remove the images? Could it be that they knew they were violating the law by posting them in the first place? I don't know why, and I'm not going to accuse them of a crime without knowing the facts, and you should stop making accusations that you can't back up either.

Travh20
08-30-2004, 03:57 PM
your right, if Kerry and Edwards were so sure they could sue why not do it? why threaten? The people threatened never went to court becasue it was a threat, a cheap threat with no merrit. the very fact that kerry hasnt sued the SBVFT in court for slander porves that what they say is not a lie. Kerry refuses to prove them wrong the only way possible, by releasing his documents.

As far as his book, it isnt that he is just not publishing it, but has gone out of his way to make sure it never gets seen. there are several site that have it posted, but they will be taken down soon enough. what is in the book exactly that is so bad? Why is John O'Neill offering kerry to publish and distribute it on his dime? why is kerry refusing?

Vilepagan
08-30-2004, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
your right, if Kerry and Edwards were so sure they could sue why not do it? why threaten? The people threatened never went to court becasue it was a threat, a cheap threat with no merrit. the very fact that kerry hasnt sued the SBVFT in court for slander porves that what they say is not a lie. Kerry refuses to prove them wrong the only way possible, by releasing his documents.

More SBVFT crap...*yawns*

As far as his book, it isnt that he is just not publishing it, but has gone out of his way to make sure it never gets seen. there are several site that have it posted, but they will be taken down soon enough. what is in the book exactly that is so bad? Why is John O'Neill offering kerry to publish and distribute it on his dime? why is kerry refusing?

The truth is...I don't know, and you don't know...so....maybe we shouldn't engage in idle speculation about things we don't know...