it seems taht since kerry cliam of a christmas in cambodia has been debunked, he is having his official biographer change the date to January. it seems the memory that was "seared into his mind" was wrong. he will now hace his personle history re written. this seems to prove the swift boat veterans wrong, see he wasnt in camboadia in christmas, he was there in january, it says so in his official biography!!!!! :rolleyes: I guess its easier to re write history then prove these swift boat veterans wrong

STORY (http://www.drudgereport.com/dnc93.htm)

Kerry is a pretty sad hopeful, not to say that Bush is a great choice, but everyday, new info comes to light that'll sway the vote to Bush eventually. I'm feeling better about this race already.

kerry brought all this on himself, making vietnam the defining issue of the election was his own wrong doing. He thought he could hide his senate record behind vietnam, considering his war service a bullet proof vest, an uncriticizeable credential. he was wrong. now not only is he being exposed as a embelisher by private veterans groups, bush will deliver the final blow by a good going over of his outrageously liberal voting record, which we know he is afraid of by the very fact he has NEVER brought it up. in the end he will be shown for wha the is. a mega rich, wishy washy liberal war embelisher. A faker, a a flake. at least howard dean, as loopy as he was, didnt try to pretend to be someone he wasnt.

Yeah, and I loved Dean's, "I Have a Scream Speech".

funny how overdose has not replyed to one o these kerry christmas in cambodia threads yet.

Do I have to reply to all of your Kerry Bashing threads? I don’t think I have to. I have many other threads to deal with, about John Kerry. You are the one who said you hated talking about this, and now you are brining up all of these threads about his service. Catch a clue, I’m not about to start another thread war on John Kerry’s service, I’ve already been in too many to count. Go right ahead and live in your dream world, see if I care.

he doesnt seem to lack time to read them though obviously.

True...

Kerry goooooooood...BUSH BAAAAAAAAD. It seems to me that he can take the time to contribute to all the bush bashing threads, but yet bashing Kerry's service isn't acceptable, even though the Kerry camp has made it a huge portion of their campaign.

Originally posted by Travh20
funny how overdose has not replyed to one o these kerry christmas in cambodia threads yet.

What's funny is that you need two threads to attack Kerry on why he can't remember where he was on Christmas Day 36 years ago. If this is the worst thing you can dig up regarding his military service, then I'd suggest you give up a losing battle. And please stop posting multiple threads on the same topic...we have AuthenticFan posting enough garbage on the boards as it is.

Pagan, Kerry said the memory was SEARED into his memory, he had it written into his personel history. I know for a fact that if you spend a cristmas in a war you NEVER forget it. I remember spending christmas 1992 on a C-141 flying to Somalia. I had been 18 for 5 days. I know that that IS seared into my memory. I couldnt forget that in 100 years. Kerry seemed perfectly fine with the memory until someone called him on it, now after all this time his memory is suddenly a tad off? BS. I guess he was going to have his personal biographer change it anyway, it was just a coincidence that it happend at the same time he was shown to be lying? Perhaps if Kerry had seved multiple tours and been in vietnam for more then one christmas I could understand getting mixed up, but he was there only a few months, andonly one christmas. How culd he forget? In war christmas is a big deal, you always think about what you would normally be doing, adn you remember it. If he is not telling the truth about this, how much else that he has said is not completely true?

EXACTLY!!!!

Originally posted by Travh20
If he is not telling the truth about this, how much else that he has said is not completely true?

Trav, you think in generalities...using your logic if even one of your 4665 posts on this forum is a lie, or even wrong, we must label all of your posts as "not completely true". It doesn't work that way Trav. If he was not in Cambodia in 1968, he was either lying, or mistaken, or confused. That doesn't mean that when he says something tomorrow, that he's lying, mistaken, or confused.

IF you base your entire campaign on 3 months in vietnam and you cant remember if you were in cambodia or not or when you were there if you say you were AFTER CLAIMING ON THE SENATE FLOOR THE MEMORY WAS "SEARED INTO YOUR MEMORY what does that say about him? It casts into serious dobt all of his other claims about vietnam, which IS the centerpiece of his campaign. He is defining himself wiht an experience he cant even remember.

The gop is trying to focus the election on Kerry's military and it won't work. Polls already show these ads are costing him several points and when MoveOn.org's ads come out tomorrow challenging Bush to order the Swift boat vets to cease (IOW: join McCain, Franks and Hackworth) he will have a real problem on his hands. ROTFLMAO.

This election is a referendum on the sitting president and no one cares about Kerry's military service. People want jobs, health care, education, environmental/work-place safety and answers to questions like "is my son or daughter going to be drafted to fight for Cheney's OIL in Iraq?"

Dop

The GOP is trying to focus the campaign on kerrys war record? ROTFLMFAOUSDPUS, ya, I hear bush bring it up at every speech :rolleyes: dop, you are the master of seeing the exact opposite of what is really happening. george soros and his 15 million dollar attack machine can cry all they want. Cahllenge bush to order them to cease :rolleyes: if it is helping kerry so much why would they want them to stop with the comercials? theproblem is as clever as you try to sound you dont make any sense.

Proof that Kerry did serve in Cambodia

Apparently the swiftboat fellows who put out that ad that John McCain called "dishonet and disgraceful" are upset because John Kerry said on the floor of the senate in 1986, during a debate on Vietnam:

'I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared--seared--in me.'

The charge: that Kerry was never in Cambodia, and in 1986, Kerry deliberately fabricated this elaborate lie to persuade people he was there, rather than in Vietnam.

Specifically, John O'Neill (who was not in Vietnam when Kerry was there) says: “Kerry was never in Cambodia during Christmas 1968, or at all during the Vietnam War. . . . he was more than fifty miles away from Cambodia.”...Kerry was stationed at Coastal Division 13 in Cat Lo. Coastal Division 13’s patrol areas..." This conflicts with another swiftboat fellow's statement, though ...

Robert Brant, PCF#36 says:..."I served in Vietnam as a boat officer from June of 1968 to July of 1969. My service was three months in Coastal Division 13 out of Cat Lo, and nine months with Coastal Division 11 based in An Thoi. John Kerry was in An Thoi the same time I was..."

Here's Kerry's boat, PCF #66, out of An Thoi. Search for Kerry's name on the page, and you'll see he was patrolling An Thoi in December 1968. http://swiftboats.net/#pcf66

Here are the names of the associated patrol areas:
http://swiftboats.net/extras/patrol_areas.htm

Patrol Areas 9B thru 9H1 (An Thoi) are right on the Cambodian border. Cat Lo is 5B through 5F, btw.

Here's a map that shows everything http://ideamouth.com/politics/PatrolAreas.jpeg

nice try overdose, but nothing there says kerry was in cambodia. a guy who served on a diffrent boat has no right to say anything about what kerry did, at least in your eyes. nothing you posted says anything wahtsoever. 3 men of kerrys own bat, the guys you believe the most,s ay they enver went to cambodia,. and after all this time discrediting the swift boat guyys for not being on kerrys boat you quote someone who didnt serve on kerrys boat as some sort of proof kerry was in cambodia. nice try,

Which three guys are you referring to, Trav? I’d like to see the names, and the reliable links to what they said…Thanks.

this is from Kerrys Christmas in cambodia 1 thread:

"At least three of the five crewmen on Kerry’s PCF 44 boat—Bill Zaldonis, Steven Hatch, and Steve Gardner—deny that they or their boat were ever in Cambodia. the remaining two crewmen declined to be interviewed "

as far as reliable links, I will leave that you to discover, as every link I have ever posted just didnt do it for you. It seems any link that doesnt say kerry is the second coming is just to partial for you to believe.