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Perry5
08-08-2004, 11:41 AM
master teacher,master carpenter and reported to be the son of God,not recorded to have ever writtin anything with no one on earth having any idea as to what he may have looked like.
(Jesus the Christ,)
God,son of God, man or legend?
And your point is?
Do you have opinions or just questions?
Perry5
08-08-2004, 01:52 PM
I learn by asking qeastions,i never learn when i am talking only when i'm listening.
jerejerebinks
08-08-2004, 11:54 PM
There are records of what Christ looked like, matching the appearance of him we have today.
Jesus is and was the son of God.
jerejerebinks
08-08-2004, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by Perry5
I learn by asking qeastions,i never learn when i am talking only when i'm listening.
And, it would be better for you to learn through prayer, and reading God's word.
Perry5
08-09-2004, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by jerejerebinks
There are records of what Christ looked like, matching the appearance of him we have today.
Jesus is and was the son of God.
(I believe the records that you refere to are simply artist conseptions.)
jerejerebinks
08-09-2004, 09:23 AM
Surprise, Surprise you're wrong again.
There are historical documents that describe Jesus, as paintings of him and pictures of him show today.
Perry5
08-09-2004, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by jerejerebinks
Surprise, Surprise you're wrong again.
There are historical documents that describe Jesus, as paintings of him and pictures of him show today.
I don't think so bubba.
Echo2
08-09-2004, 10:58 AM
Artists have made interpretations down through the years but we have no actual discription or implicit image of him that we can connect to the real man. His looks remain a visoin of our imagination, which I think is good because those who do believe should understand that god is not of any race and therefore his son would not be either.
jerejerebinks
08-09-2004, 10:58 AM
I know so....BUBBA.
Perry5
08-09-2004, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Echo2
Artists have made interpretations down through the years but we have no actual discription or implicit image of him that we can connect to the real man. His looks remain a visoin of our imagination, which I think is good because those who do believe should understand that god is not of any race and therefore his son would not be either.
Ohhh!!!,you just screwed up Bubbas mind big time,i hope that he is in the conor on his knees praying for you.
jerejerebinks
08-09-2004, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by Perry5
Ohhh!!!,you just screwed up Bubbas mind big time,i hope that he is in the conor on his knees praying for you.
Nobody screwed up nothing BUBBBA!!!!
There are historical findings and documents matching Jesus's apppereance to that of the Last Supper.
mad dog
08-10-2004, 07:42 AM
How could anyone possibly know what Jesus looked like when we don't even know the simple stuff?
{1} real name?
{2} when was he born?
{3} how old was he when he died?
{4} where was he born?
{5} where did he live?
This is just a start, there is more unknown then known about the man called Jesus.
Lithorien
08-10-2004, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by jerejerebinks
I know so....BUBBA.
You're dead wrong.
It's physically impossible for us to have any interpertation right until we realize that - if such a man existed - he would have to be DARK SKINNED.
The Israelites lived in the MIDDLE EAST. They were NOT the fair white skinned people that artists like to portray them as nowadays.
Until you find a dark-skinned Jesus, you don't have a clue what he might have looked like if he existed.
A minister was preaching a sermon heard by a man and his little boy. The minister said "God is neither black nor white nor male or female". The little boy looked up at his dad and asked "dad is God Michael Jackson". :D
Sorry off topic but thought the serious could use a laugh.
Blibblob
08-10-2004, 05:54 PM
There are historical findings and documents matching Jesus's apppereance to that of the Last Supper.
First I'd like to interject that DaVinci was not Christian :D. Now, no he isn't. For reasons Lithorien previously stated. I just wanted to bother you about the painter of said peice.
jerejerebinks
08-10-2004, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by mad dog
How could anyone possibly know what Jesus looked like when we don't even know the simple stuff?
{1} real name?
{2} when was he born?
{3} how old was he when he died?
{4} where was he born?
{5} where did he live?
This is just a start, there is more unknown then known about the man called Jesus.
{1} real name? His real name was Jesus Christ.
{2} when was he born? The year of his birth is known which was of course 2004 years ago. The star which lead the wisemen to baby Jesus, leads most experts to agree it was very late in the year, within the last 2 to be exact.
Christmas (Dec. 25th) is not for certain his birthday, but is the most reasonable guess.
{3} how old was he when he died? 33
{4} where was he born? Bethlehem, Isreal
{5} where did he live? He lived throughout Isreal, most notably Nazareth.
jerejerebinks
08-10-2004, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by Blibblob
First I'd like to interject that DaVinci was not Christian :D. I just wanted to bother you about the painter of said peice.
It is common knowledge that Da Vinci was not Christian, but his portraits are the most wildley known, and in order for him to receieve full commission he had to go by the actual apperance.
jerejerebinks
08-10-2004, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Lithorien
You're dead wrong.
It's physically impossible for us to have any interpertation right until we realize that - if such a man existed - he would have to be DARK SKINNED.
The Israelites lived in the MIDDLE EAST. They were NOT the fair white skinned people that artists like to portray them as nowadays.
Until you find a dark-skinned Jesus, you don't have a clue what he might have looked like if he existed.
Christ was was of Gailien parents, so he would not as dark as you think. I'm sure the Isreali heat made him tan, but he was not Saddam Hussien type dark.
Perry5
08-10-2004, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by jerejerebinks
Nobody screwed up nothing BUBBBA!!!!
There are historical findings and documents matching Jesus's apppereance to that of the Last Supper.
Produce some Bubba produce some.
Blibblob
08-10-2004, 06:50 PM
{1} real name? His real name was Jesus Christ.
That, in no way shape or form is true. Jesus is the english name of the latin name of the greek name of the hebrew name. Christ? Come on that means messiah. Nobody would name their kid "Jehova Saves the Messiah", we didn't want him stoned to death at the age of 1. The others may or may not be true, we still don't know for sure.
It is common knowledge that Da Vinci was not Christian, but his portraits are the most wildley known, and in order for him to receieve full commission he had to go by the actual apperance.
We know full well that Da Vinci would not submit himself to the church. He constantly decieved them to get his symbols through. The only time I know of that they made him redo it was with the Virgin of the Rocks. I don't think Da Vinci can be used as historical information. He wasn't painting portraits of people, he was painting pretty things for the religious people to fawn over.
Christ was was of Gailien parents, so he would not as dark as you think. I'm sure the Isreali heat made him tan, but he was not Saddam Hussien type dark.
Gailean is still from Isreal. Of course we have no definative evidence of how dark or light they were, we do know they weren't pale Europeans that people tend to think Jesus was.
Vilepagan
08-11-2004, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by jerejerebinks
{1} real name? His real name was Jesus Christ.
{2} when was he born? The year of his birth is known which was of course 2004 years ago. The star which lead the wisemen to baby Jesus, leads most experts to agree it was very late in the year, within the last 2 to be exact.
Christmas (Dec. 25th) is not for certain his birthday, but is the most reasonable guess.
{3} how old was he when he died? 33
{4} where was he born? Bethlehem, Isreal
{5} where did he live? He lived throughout Isreal, most notably Nazareth.
Jere, you have the unfortunate habit of repeating stuff you learned in Sunday School as historical fact, without having done any research on your own.
Jesus was certainly not a white man. You wrote:
There are historical documents that describe Jesus, as paintings of him and pictures of him show today.
What documents? Which painting do you believe is accurate, and why?
BTW, December 25th was chosen by the early church as Jesus' birthday because it coincided with the Saturnalia, a pagan festival. The church was trying to discourage pagan beliefs so they hijacked the holiday to suppress paganism, not because there is any evidence Jesus was born on that day.
You also wrote:
The star which lead the wisemen to baby Jesus, leads most experts to agree it was very late in the year, within the last 2 to be exact.
Which "star" would that be?