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Teensguide
08-02-2004, 07:26 PM
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video

ha ha I guess that's how they make their chickens tender!

Teensguide
08-02-2004, 07:26 PM
oops, try this link instead: http://www.petatv.com

DrewM
08-02-2004, 07:57 PM
They breed them to die anyway. No logic in needlessly hurting the chickens, but heck if it makes it taste good then why not.

Overdose
08-02-2004, 08:00 PM
How sad....

jerejerebinks
08-03-2004, 01:45 AM
The real travesty from KFC, is that they are considering changing their name to Kitchen Fresh Chicken??!?!?!? :confused:

Being from Kentucky, I know Colonel Sanders a true Kentucky Patriot would be rotisirizing in his grave if he knew there were taking the Kentucky out of KFC...its a disgrace it really is.

Travh20
08-03-2004, 09:24 AM
the real crime is that people are more concerned with chickens gettng thier heads cut off then americans getting their heads cut off

jerejerebinks
08-03-2004, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by Travh20
the real crime is that people are more concerned with chickens gettng thier heads cut off then americans getting their heads cut off In all do respect, there are countless threads discussing the war, the conflict for democracy and liberation in Iraq, and other problems going on within the humanity of the world. I in no way favor one man's judgement over another, and I'm not trying to step on your toes just because youre conservative, but President Bush's slow and methodical stay in Iraq has led to many of these decaptations...

Travh20
08-03-2004, 11:48 AM
ya, of course these guys are getting decapitated because of us, how silly of me :rolleyes: tell me, how come no blame is ever put on the FREAKING TERRORISTS WHO ARE CUTTING OFF HEADS????

HaVoK
08-03-2004, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
tell me, how come no blame is ever put on the FREAKING TERRORISTS WHO ARE CUTTING OFF HEADS???? Because the only thing that matters is trying to further people's individual agenda's in this country. Whatever that agenda may be.

007
08-03-2004, 06:56 PM
Back to the original subject, I do feel it is unnecessary to be so very violent. I am sure more humane ways are available.

Some other thoughts. Weren't we always taught not to play with our food? I watched some of the other videos offered on the PETA site. I wasn't really interested in the videos or their messages. Although I must admit the tofu wrestling was somewhat entertaining. They promote tofu because it doesn't cause impotence, and supposedly meat does. But since there were two females wrestling, could it cause lesbianism?!?!?? :eek:

Red meat kills? No, Green meat kills, Red meat is just fine.

PETA - People Eating Tasty Animials.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Please don't kill me, just trying for some humor. :D

DrewM
08-04-2004, 01:44 AM
I'm all against needless cruelty to animals - but those PETA folks are a bunch of nuts.

Animals eat other animals - it's the way it is meant to be. For the most part we are humane in treatment of animals. Ever seen a cat kill a mouse? it would make the KFC worker look like mother theresa in comparison.

So, some guy got a bit rough with the chickens that were 20 mins away from being slaughtered anyway - big deal. I doubt that behaviour is part of the KFC policy manual.

The PETA folks just take this stuff too far.

jerejerebinks
08-04-2004, 01:44 AM
All in good fun :p

jerejerebinks
08-04-2004, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by DrewM
I'm all against needless cruelty to animals - but those PETA folks are a bunch of nuts.

Animals eat other animals - it's the way it is meant to be. For the most part we are humane in treatment of animals. Ever seen a cat kill a mouse? it would make the KFC worker look like mother theresa in comparison.

So, some guy got a bit rough with the chickens that were 20 mins away from being slaughtered anyway - big deal. I doubt that behaviour is part of the KFC policy manual.

The PETA folks just take this stuff too far. I pretty much agree with all of this, accept I dont really think just because they are about to die is a reason to mishandle them...

DrewM
08-04-2004, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by jerejerebinks
I pretty much agree with all of this, accept I dont really think just because they are about to die is a reason to mishandle them...

Neither do I, but in the grand scheme of things I think it is not news.

silverbulletkc
08-04-2004, 10:06 PM
PETA's got some real values against KFC. I remember one time that PETA members tried to give KFC-style buckets with pictures of slaughtered chickens to kids, in hopes to sway them away from eating a poor, defenseless animal.

Seriously, they need to get real lives and sell real estate or something.

jerejerebinks
08-05-2004, 12:57 AM
You got to respect them for standing up for what they believe though.


Some people in this world, God love them, hate to see chickens mistreated....

Dont get me wrong, I hate seeing chickens mistreated too, but I do like seeing them dipped in honey bbq sauce very very well.

silverbulletkc
08-05-2004, 01:21 AM
And let's not forget buffalo sauce Mr. Binks!

jerejerebinks
08-05-2004, 01:25 AM
Oh absolutley...

And lemon pepper, and southwest sauce, and bullseye sauce, sweet and sour sauce...

And General Tso Chicken, Grilled Chicken, Roasted Chicken, Fried, Baked, Seasoned, Crispy, Hotwings, Rotisary,


Ok, I'm turning into the love child of Col. Sanders and Bubba from Forest Gump.

silverbulletkc
08-05-2004, 01:41 AM
you left out sweet & sour chicken, and broccoli chicken, orange chicken, pineapple chicken, citrus-grilled chicken, chicken soup, chicken a la king, chicken press, chicken stir fry, chicken-fried chicken..........great, now i'm craving chicken:)

korg
08-05-2004, 07:13 AM
you guys are really............................................ ...making me hungry.

es347fan
08-05-2004, 10:20 AM
Why even bother with KFC? There are certainly better places than those greazy old dead yardbird havens even the Colonel wouldn't recognize.

silverbulletkc
08-05-2004, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by es347fan
Why even bother with KFC? There are certainly better places than those greazy old dead yardbird havens even the Colonel wouldn't recognize.
As long as you're not thinking McDonalds, I'm happy.

Teensguide
08-06-2004, 05:02 AM
Originally posted by 007
Back to the original subject, I do feel it is unnecessary to be so very violent. I am sure more humane ways are available.
Doesn't matter, the chickens die either way. It's a goddamn slaughter house! Those chickens are meant to die! And you see... KFC is smart, they save money on instant death drugs, or whatever you call it... Instead of injecting the drugs into chickens, they hire workers to play kickball with them. Really great way to do business...

jerejerebinks
08-07-2004, 10:13 PM
I like KFC, Lee's, and even Hardees Chicken sometimes, but when it really comes down to it...

POP EYES IS FRICKEN AWSEOME!!!

es347fan
08-07-2004, 11:28 PM
Church's Chicken used to be about the best of the fast food chains. Zaxby's & Guthrie's are real popular in this part of GA.

silverbulletkc
08-08-2004, 01:46 AM
Staley's Chicken, Popeye's Chicken, and Chick-fil-A is king around these parts.

es347fan
08-08-2004, 08:09 PM
Yeah, Chick-fil-A is here as well, in fact, it was started right up the road in Atlanta.

BorgHunter
08-08-2004, 08:12 PM
Mmmmm...Chick-Fil-A...best chicken ever. Too bad you can't get, say, a bucket of it, only sandwiches and nuggets. They also have great fries.

silverbulletkc
08-08-2004, 08:32 PM
Does anybody else think that there is a distinct and different, but good taste to the chicken at Chick-fil-A? Could be the peanut oil.

jerejerebinks
08-09-2004, 02:49 AM
I like their spicy chicken sandwich....but I still like my chicken with cajun gravy mashed patatoes from Pop Eyes.

Overdose
08-09-2004, 03:27 AM
I eat meat, but talking about this so casually doesn’t seem right…

jerejerebinks
08-09-2004, 09:51 AM
Oh well, I think you having pictures of men making out is casually not right, but I got to deal with it.



ANYBODY LIKE HOTWINGS?!?!

BorgHunter
08-09-2004, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by silverbulletkc
Does anybody else think that there is a distinct and different, but good taste to the chicken at Chick-fil-A? Could be the peanut oil.
Yeah, they are unique. Uniquely delicious, in fact.

Travh20
08-09-2004, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by jerejerebinks
Oh well, I think you having pictures of men making out is casually not right, but I got to deal with it.



ANYBODY LIKE HOTWINGS?!?!

lmao, THAT WAS GOOD.

jerejerebinks
08-09-2004, 04:13 PM
Thanks.:cool:

jturpin4
08-09-2004, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by jerejerebinks
Oh well, I think you having pictures of men making out is casually not right, but I got to deal with it.



ANYBODY LIKE HOTWINGS?!?!


Ouch, that one was great. Way to go Jeremiah! lol ;)

jerejerebinks
08-09-2004, 06:08 PM
Wow!

Who knew being a smart alec could reek such attention?

Overdose
08-09-2004, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by jerejerebinks
Wow!

Who knew being a smart alec could reek such attention?

Hey if you dish it out, you betta be willing to take it. And yes, it was a nice come back. But I still hold true to what I said in the first place…;)

es347fan
08-10-2004, 04:02 AM
I've been to some outrageous parties where outside was cooking a side of beef, with a cook ready to slice off whatever you might like. Nothing like a good TX BBQ!

jerejerebinks
08-10-2004, 06:01 PM
Sounds great...but ol Jere's got a party even better than that.

I been to a party where a chinese man, sits around a big grill and cooks your choices of steak, shrimp, crab meat, veal, chicken, ribs, noodles, rice, and vegetables, anyway you want it, smothered in sauce you want...

Yes, nothing like The Grand China Buffet (next to Krogers) and King Chinese Buffet (next to Winn Dixie) 's Mongolian Bars.


YUMMY, I just made myself severely hungry.

jerejerebinks
08-18-2004, 08:47 PM
Peanut Chicken from Honk Kong Chinese is fricken great.

Just a random thought.

silverbulletkc
08-19-2004, 02:25 PM
Metro Buffet was king in my old college town. I never knew the comcept of having sweet and sour sauce already inside the eggroll could be done, but I stand corrected now.......

Otherwise, chicken is good.

jerejerebinks
08-19-2004, 06:00 PM
God, I love chinese:cool:

TheAuthenticFan
08-22-2004, 12:41 PM
I really do.

silverbulletkc
08-22-2004, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by jerejerebinks
God, I love chinese
Amen to that.

jerejerebinks
08-22-2004, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by TheAuthenticFan
I really do.

Umm...ok.

Btw, why do you type half of your posts in the subject box?

LionelHutz
08-22-2004, 09:49 PM
Between him and Perry5 the parentheses man my anal-retentive side is going nuts.

jerejerebinks
08-22-2004, 10:35 PM
Absolutely.

Swede
08-24-2004, 05:52 AM
Just to add a side note...B_V's great aunt was the woman that taught Colonel Sanders how to cook and make that chicken. :)

Vilepagan
08-24-2004, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by Swede
Just to add a side note...B_V's great aunt was the woman that taught Colonel Sanders how to cook and make that chicken. :)

Hmmm...interesting story Swede...but according to the official KFC website:

When the Colonel was six, his father died. His mother was forced to go to work, and young Harland had to take care of his three-year-old brother and baby sister. This meant doing much of the family cooking. By the age of seven, he was a master of several regional dishes.

At age 10, he got his first job working on a nearby farm for $2 a month. When he was 12, his mother remarried and he left his home near Henryville, Ind., for a job on a farm in Greenwood, Ind. He held a series of jobs over the next few years, first as a 15-year-old streetcar conductor in New Albany, Ind., and then as a 16-year-old private, soldiering for six months in Cuba.

After that he was a railroad fireman, studied law by correspondence, practiced in justice of the peace courts, sold insurance, operated an Ohio River steamboat ferry, sold tires, and operated service stations. When he was 40, the Colonel began cooking for hungry travelers who stopped at his service station in Corbin, Ky. He didn't have a restaurant then, but served folks on his own dining table in the living quarters of his service station.

As more people started coming just for food, he moved across the street to a motel and restaurant that seated 142 people. Over the next nine years, he perfected his secret blend of 11 herbs and spices and the basic cooking technique that is still used today.

So...who was this mystery chicken lady? :D

Are you trying to tell us that Kentucky Fried Chicken was invented by a damn yankee? ::shudders::

DanF
08-24-2004, 12:29 PM
When I was a 16 or 17 year old kid I worked for KFC in the evenings after school and on weekends. This was in South Georgia. We had a dinner and meeting at the Holiday Inn one night down in Thomasville. The guest speaker was Harlon Sanders. I was quite impressed, as a youngster, by this stately looking old man. He took an immediate liking to me and had me sit with him during dinner. We talked quite a bit. He seemed bored with the festivities and didn't talk much with the owners and business people present.
His personal story to me went something like this:
He and his wife had owned a service station on a dirt crossroads.
He was in his sixties and living primarily on social security.
He said that the fellow that had a service station across from him seemed to be doing more business because he had free air for tires. Mr. Sanders said that he could not afford an air compressor so he got the owner across the street to agree to let him tap his air compressor for 5 dollars a month. He then proceeded to dig a trench across the dirt road and bury a hose which he brought up at his own pumps. He then put up a hand painted sign saying "free air." He said this helped his business somewhat.

He said that his wife cooked them food which they ate there at lunch to keep from closing the store down to go eat.

He said that construction workers, working close to them, started coming in hunting something to eat for lunch. He only had drinks,crackers, sardines, potted meat, etc.
The workers would smell his chicken brought in for him and his wife and asked for him to start bringing extra for them. Which he did. Soon he said word got out about his fried chicken and he was selling far more chicken than gasoline.
He told me that eventually a man approached him about selling franchises on the chicken. He said this was how his money was made. Said he had to wait until he was an old man to make any money.

He was very pleasant, enjoyable, and had a great sense of humor. I remember well the old man in a white suite and hat carrying a cane. Sitting there, 40 years ago, fasinating a young fellow that was hanging on his every word.

jerejerebinks
08-24-2004, 04:41 PM
Thats crazy to see Corbin on here...because its not far from where I live and I play tennis their almost every month.

The very first KFC is still there in Barborville, a small down in Corbin. Its always packed everytime we go down there...its something of a tourist spot.

I dont know how national this story was, so I'll just repeat it. A few years ago a couple (the inventers of those suckers that spin around in your mouth) bought the former house of Colonel Sanders and were remodeling his basement, when they found his secret chicken recipie hidden in the wall. They toyed with the idea of making it publically known, but were sued..and eventually sold the paper to the franchise.

It was huge here in Kentucky, on all the papers and things, I never knew if it went national, so if anyone knows what im talking about, tell me, im curious.

silverbulletkc
08-24-2004, 05:10 PM
Yes, KFC is a great restaurant.....but nothing can beat the feast at the Iowa State Fair!! (random thought).

jerejerebinks
08-24-2004, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by silverbulletkc
Yes, KFC is a great restaurant.....but nothing can beat the feast at the Iowa State Fair!! (random thought).

Better than Popeyes Chicken??? Pssssh! Nothing tops Popeyes. lol.:D

Swede
08-25-2004, 08:31 AM
ack, I stand corrected. B_V said that she didn't teach him to cook (I got it all wrong, duh) here's what happened.

In the 40's Colonel Sanders was a cook in one of B_V's aunts restaurants and that's why in return, when he opened his cafe (which became Kentucky Fried Chicken several years later) he hired B_V's mom to work there as a favor for letting him work for her.
She died with an enormous amount of Kentucky Fried Chicken Stock.

I'll see if I can find anymore info anywhere online.

Another funny thing is that B_V's moms chicken always tasted like Kentucky Fried Chicken's original recipe....lol

jerejerebinks
08-25-2004, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Swede
ack, I stand corrected. B_V said that she didn't teach him to cook (I got it all wrong, duh) here's what happened.

In the 40's Colonel Sanders was a cook in one of B_V's aunts restaurants and that's why in return, when he opened his cafe (which became Kentucky Fried Chicken several years later) he hired B_V's mom to work there as a favor for letting him work for her.
She died with an enormous amount of Kentucky Fried Chicken Stock.

I'll see if I can find anymore info anywhere online.

Another funny thing is that B_V's moms chicken always tasted like Kentucky Fried Chicken's original recipe....lol

Was she from here in Kentucky?

Swede
08-26-2004, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by jerejerebinks
Was she from here in Kentucky?
Well, you would ask me that when B_V is asleep...lol I know his whole family is from Barbourville, Kentucky so she has several restaurants around the area, also in Seattle when she moved there.

jerejerebinks
08-26-2004, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Swede
Well, you would ask me that when B_V is asleep...lol I know his whole family is from Barbourville, Kentucky so she has several restaurants around the area, also in Seattle when she moved there.

I just played a tournament in Barborville a little over a month ago, and will be back next month.

Down at Union College if you know where that is....the original KFC is right down the road.

Swede
08-27-2004, 05:07 AM
I couldn't tell ya hun...I've never been there personally, but B_V's family talked about the town continuously. I think his great uncle was the mayor or something a long time ago. His name was Alry Bays.

jerejerebinks
08-29-2004, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by Swede
I couldn't tell ya hun...I've never been there personally, but B_V's family talked about the town continuously. I think his great uncle was the mayor or something a long time ago. His name was Alry Bays.

It really is a nice town, Kentucky's first Subway is there too...Subway as in sandwiches Subway, lol

paulaorcas
12-29-2007, 08:31 PM
animal abuse is disgusting!!! slaughter houses are disgusting!!! dont get me wrong im ok with ppl eating what they need to to survive,but this is rediculous! i didnt even bother watching the vid cz i have seen one too many times the horrors of slaughterhouses.to me it is just wrong. its not like there is no other way of killing the chickens.by the way im not for peta,at least not totally bc they can be rediculous sometimes,but heres a little known fact,chickens only have two feelings,happiness and fear.it may soung like im defending the slaughter house,BUT can you IMAGINE the fear the chickens must feel as they are being constantly beaten and bashed and bleeding!!! these are living things we are talking about here! they feel pain. i certainly couldnt watch that and just think "oh well at least its not me" or "if it makes it taste good".at least its not me?i mean who could say that.idk but i do know there are humane ways of killing these animals quickly.and just remember,slaughterhouses are crowded areas filled with chickens,many of which have diseases,who will never feel the sun on their backs and hear for the rest of their lives only the sounds of their kind being tortured.

DarkFantasy96
12-29-2007, 08:33 PM
Mmm.... fried chicken. Yum.

Vilepagan
12-29-2007, 08:37 PM
If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them all out of meat?

DarkFantasy96
12-29-2007, 08:39 PM
If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them all out of meat?
:D "Vegetarian: Old Indian word for 'bad hunter'"

paulaorcas
12-29-2007, 08:39 PM
:( I'm all against needless cruelty to animals - but those PETA folks are a bunch of nuts.

Animals eat other animals - it's the way it is meant to be. For the most part we are humane in treatment of animals. Ever seen a cat kill a mouse? it would make the KFC worker look like mother theresa in comparison.

So, some guy got a bit rough with the chickens that were 20 mins away from being slaughtered anyway - big deal. I doubt that behaviour is part of the KFC policy manual.

The PETA folks just take this stuff too far.
I totally agree about the peta thing.i am animal rights but peta is ridiculous.but how can you say this guy got a LITTLE BIT rough with a chicken.the chicken may not be very smart,but it has nerve endings and feels pain just like you.only saying.:(

paulaorcas
12-29-2007, 08:43 PM
if they were allowed to roam free and were killed humanely,it wouldnt bother me that much.

paulaorcas
12-29-2007, 09:21 PM
I pretty much agree with all of this, accept I dont really think just because they are about to die is a reason to mishandle them...
exactly.

Freethinker
12-30-2007, 11:18 AM
ya, of course these guys are getting decapitated because of us

True.

The people doing the cutting-off-of-heads are doing it in retaliation for ceaseless and inhuman U.S aggression and war.

_________________________________________

Like Pavlovian dogs, hundreds of millions of American citizens drool at the sounds of the trumpets of war blasted into their minds by the television monitor, eager to satisfy the destructive cravings of their inner consciousness propagated throughout the citizenry by an ingenious mechanism of mass manipulation.

Freethinker
12-30-2007, 11:22 AM
can you IMAGINE the fear the chickens must feel as they are being constantly beaten and bashed and bleeding!!! these are living things we are talking about here! they feel pain. i certainly couldnt watch that and just think "oh well at least its not me" or "if it makes it taste good"...at least its not me? I mean who could say that.

Who could say that?

Pretty much every rightwing Archie Bunker type that I have ever run across.

HaVoK
12-30-2007, 11:33 AM
There you have it folks, and you thought it couldnt be done. Freethinker has broken boundaries by politicizing chicken. :)

Vilepagan
12-30-2007, 12:06 PM
There you have it folks, and you thought it couldnt be done. Freethinker has broken boundaries by politicizing chicken. :)

Yes, but every chicken has a right-wing and a left-wing, so at least he's being moderate about it. ;)

HaVoK
12-30-2007, 12:07 PM
Yes, but every chicken has a right-wing and a left-wing, so at least he's being moderate about it. ;)OMG....:lolhit:

Scumbelina
12-30-2007, 12:22 PM
:(
I totally agree about the peta thing.i am animal rights but peta is ridiculous.but how can you say this guy got a LITTLE BIT rough with a chicken.the chicken may not be very smart,but it has nerve endings and feels pain just like you.only saying.:(

I don't get it. You say yer into animal rights but you call PETA ridiculous. That makes no sense whatsoever. :confused:

As far as the banter on this board goes, it's beyond sickening. You guys are all laffing and joking and don't give a shit about the horrific animal cruelty that takes place on factory farms all day, everyday. It's all good as long as you get some meat, right?

Eating meat is not the problem. I eat meat but there are humane farms out there that don't brutalize animals before slaughtering them. They have a decent life for the few months they're allowed to live, and are killed humanely.

There's a HUGE difference between factory farms and humane/organic farms and believe it or not, the meat you guys are eating is not only from tortured, sick and many times diseased animals, it is full of chemicals, steroids, growth hormones and antibiotics, but that's ok, right?

AS LONG AS IT TASTES GOOD!


Unfreakingbelieavble.

paulaorcas
12-30-2007, 12:38 PM
I don't get it. You say yer into animal rights but you call PETA ridiculous. That makes no sense whatsoever. :confused:

As far as the banter on this board goes, it's beyond sickening. You guys are all laffing and joking and don't give a shit about the horrific animal cruelty that takes place on factory farms all day, everyday. It's all good as long as you get some meat, right?

Eating meat is not the problem. I eat meat but there are humane farms out there that don't brutalize animals before slaughtering them. They have a decent life for the few months they're allowed to live, and are killed humanely.

There's a HUGE difference between factory farms and humane/organic farms and believe it or not, the meat you guys are eating is not only from tortured, sick and many times diseased animals, it is full of chemicals, steroids, growth hormones and antibiotics, but that's ok, right?

AS LONG AS IT TASTES GOOD!


Unfreakingbelieavble.
I completely agree scumbelina. where can i buy this meat from organic farms? can you find it anywhere?

paulaorcas
12-30-2007, 12:44 PM
as for them,some ppl are just like that,and you cant change them.

DarkFantasy96
12-30-2007, 03:00 PM
As far as the banter on this board goes, it's beyond sickening. You guys are all laffing and joking and don't give a shit about the horrific animal cruelty that takes place on factory farms all day, everyday. It's all good as long as you get some meat, right?

Eating meat is not the problem. I eat meat but there are humane farms out there that don't brutalize animals before slaughtering them. They have a decent life for the few months they're allowed to live, and are killed humanely.

There's a HUGE difference between factory farms and humane/organic farms and believe it or not, the meat you guys are eating is not only from tortured, sick and many times diseased animals, it is full of chemicals, steroids, growth hormones and antibiotics, but that's ok, right?

AS LONG AS IT TASTES GOOD![/B]
My family buys free range chicken and organic beef/milk with no growth hormones as often as we can. Since I'm not in charge of getting groceries I can't really insist upon it all the time though. Also, so many of the major brands of meat (like Perdue chicken) have improved the treatment of their animals since people became aware of such abuses. Therefore it's now easier than ever to get some "guilt-free" meat. :thumbs:

EDIT: By the way, that stuff about KFC is definitely old news. They have since changed their ways, and have even formed an Animal Welfare Advisory Council (http://www.kfc.com/about/animalwelfare.asp) to audit their suppliers' farms to make sure of the good treatment of the chickens. The KFC doesn't own its own farms - therefore it's understandable that they wouldn't pay too much attention to what went on in their suppliers' farms.

mikezila
12-30-2007, 03:02 PM
My family buys free range chicken and organic beef/milk with no growth hormones as often as we can. Since I'm not in charge of getting groceries I can't really insist upon it all the time though. Also, so many of the major brands of meat (like Perdue chicken) have improved the treatment of their animals since people became aware of such abuses. Therefore it's now easier than ever to get some "guilt-free" meat. :thumbs:

Borg was right-you're losing out on the added value:lolhit:

DarkFantasy96
12-30-2007, 03:18 PM
Borg was right-you're losing out on the added value:lolhit:
No, I'm not. I still eat out a lot, at many places who are probably less than scrupulous about their meat. I actually don't care about the animals, and I don't think it tastes better or worse either way. We buy our chicken free range because Perdue is the cheapest brand, and at the BJ's (one of those stores like Sam's Club), organic milk is always on sale in huge amounts. My step-mom is Jewish. She does like to keep as healthy as possible, especially for my younger sister, but the bottom line is how much it costs. Back when organic food was still significantly more expensive than conventional food and harder to find, only my mom bought it. Now you can find organic stuff in Wal-Mart!

mikezila
12-30-2007, 03:30 PM
No, I'm not. I still eat out a lot, at many places who are probably less than scrupulous about their meat. I actually don't care about the animals, and I don't think it tastes better or worse either way. We buy our chicken free range because Perdue is the cheapest brand, and at the BJ's (one of those stores like Sam's Club), organic milk is always on sale in huge amounts. My step-mom is Jewish. She does like to keep as healthy as possible, especially for my younger sister, but the bottom line is how much it costs. Back when organic food was still significantly more expensive than conventional food and harder to find, only my mom bought it. Now you can find organic stuff in Wal-Mart!
organic as in fertilized with unprocessed cow poop instead of the costlier (and cleaner) petro chemicals?

keep in mind that most e.coli cases are traced back to the salad bar.:thumbs:



on a side note-Walmart had a huge "buy American" campaign many moons ago...until they got caught re-labeling Chinese goods.

DarkFantasy96
12-30-2007, 04:01 PM
organic as in fertilized with unprocessed cow poop instead of the costlier (and cleaner) petro chemicals?

keep in mind that most e.coli cases are traced back to the salad bar.:thumbs:

on a side note-Walmart had a huge "buy American" campaign many moons ago...until they got caught re-labeling Chinese goods.
Organic produce tastes better, period. I've never been one for caring that much about whether the things I put into my body are harmful. Most of the produce I eat is NOT organic.

As far as your side note goes, I certainly wouldn't put it past them!

mikezila
12-30-2007, 04:07 PM
As far as your side note goes, I certainly wouldn't put it past them!

keep that in mind if you see something at Walmart labeled "organic" that you haven't seen somewhere else:thumbs:

DarkFantasy96
12-30-2007, 04:26 PM
keep that in mind if you see something at Walmart labeled "organic" that you haven't seen somewhere else:thumbs:
We don't generally buy groceries at Wal-Mart. They're not as cheap as you'd think for many things!

Scumbelina
12-31-2007, 08:46 AM
I completely agree scumbelina. where can i buy this meat from organic farms? can you find it anywhere?

Depending on where you live, it can be easy to find or more difficult but worth the effort. If you have a WHole Foods store in yer area, shop there, or a Trader Joes or food Co-op. You can 'Google it' and see what's in yer area.

The best would be a local farm that sells organic and you may just have one close by that you don't even know about. Do some research! It's totally worth it. :)

http://www.mercola.com/2006/jul/20/is_your_grocery_store_running_out_of_organic_foods .htm

paulaorcas
12-31-2007, 08:49 AM
ah i see.well i will look.doubt mom and dad will agree w goin out to the country to get organic meats tho.o well.

Scumbelina
12-31-2007, 08:53 AM
Organic produce tastes better, period. I've never been one for caring that much about whether the things I put into my body are harmful. Most of the produce I eat is NOT organic.

As far as your side note goes, I certainly wouldn't put it past them!

Hell yes, organic tastes much better and is better for you... and the planet. :thumbs:

But as far as Wal-Mart goes for selling organic food..... ICKY POO!!

http://v.mercola.com/blogs/public_blog/Wal-Mart-Gets-Stronger-While-America-Gets-Weaker-21289.aspx

Meanwhile, they're on their way to becoming the largest seller of organic goods, many of which are produced in countries such as China, where the standards for organic farming are, at the very best, dubious.
Wal-Mart has been bombarded with accusations of selling substandard organic food, produced at factory farms. The accusations are well-founded, and the Organic Consumers Association (OCA) has called on consumers to boycott Wal-Mart for degrading the organic standards. According to OCA, despite their requests to Wal-Mart to stop, the mega-store chain is:

º Selling Horizon and Aurora Organic milk that comes from intensive confinement factory farm dairies
º Importing cheap organic foods and ingredients from China and Brazil
º Posting signs in its stores that mislead consumers into believing that non-organic items are actually organic

Wal-Mart is mislabeling organic food…

http://cornucopia.org/index.php/mislabeling-organic-food-at-wal-mart/


Click on the title below the pics and read how horrible these so-called organic farms are. They are deplorable and Wal-mart sells this 'organic' milk…

http://cornucopia.org/index.php/horizon-factory-farm-photo-gallery/

Scumbelina
12-31-2007, 08:56 AM
ah i see.well i will look.doubt mom and dad will agree w goin out to the country to get organic meats tho.o well.

But you may have a store in town that sells good organic meat that you aren't aware of. No Trader Joes or WHole Foods or food co-ops around you? They do sell organic meat at Fred Meyer and in some Safeways aslo, and others I'm not aware of I'll betcha.

Musiq_notes
12-31-2007, 11:09 AM
We drink organic milk and eat organic fruits and veggies. We also use organic sugar. Mmmmmm sweet tea!

mikezila
12-31-2007, 11:14 AM
We don't generally buy groceries at Wal-Mart. They're not as cheap as you'd think for many things!
when i was still dating my xgf, Kelly, she worked at Wally World and i'd stop in now and then to say hi...i'd wander thru the dairy dept and noticed their milk was a full freaking $1 more than anywhere else:eek:

Musiq_notes
12-31-2007, 11:23 AM
when i was still dating my xgf, Kelly, she worked at Wally World and i'd stop in now and then to say hi...i'd wander thru the dairy dept and noticed their milk was a full freaking $1 more than anywhere else:eek:


Unless you live here in the smallest town known to man. Everything at the local grocery store is about $1 more then Wal-mart..unless they run a special.

:rolleyes:

Scumbelina
12-31-2007, 12:12 PM
We drink organic milk and eat organic fruits and veggies. We also use organic sugar. Mmmmmm sweet tea!

EXCELLENT!!!!

Scumbelina
12-31-2007, 12:13 PM
when i was still dating my xgf, Kelly, she worked at Wally World and i'd stop in now and then to say hi...i'd wander thru the dairy dept and noticed their milk was a full freaking $1 more than anywhere else:eek:

Wal-Mart is more expensive, as far as their so called organic stuff goes and that shouldn't be.

Wal-Mart sux.

mikezila
12-31-2007, 12:18 PM
Unless you live here in the smallest town known to man. Everything at the local grocery store is about $1 more then Wal-mart..unless they run a special.

:rolleyes:
that Walmart is in the center of a community of about 30k...the funny thing is that they enough people brainwashed into thinking that because most of their stuff is priced at .89 instead of .99 or .95 that all of their "stuff" is cheaper....big deal, it's a smaller size or $3.89 instead of $2.99.:rolleyes:

paulaorcas
01-01-2008, 03:22 PM
this should become the official animal rights page.:P

mikezila
01-01-2008, 05:05 PM
this should become the official animal rights page.:P
i think that should go in the pets section...just my opinion:o

paulaorcas
01-01-2008, 06:05 PM
not really cz an animal rights page would be directed toward ALL animals.not just pets.plus this says world news and theres always news on some kind of animal abuse going on in the world.

mikezila
01-01-2008, 06:08 PM
pets are always animals, but animals aren't always "world news".

paulaorcas
01-01-2008, 06:14 PM
animals arent always pets.but i agree animals arent always world news,but thats only bc ppl are interested in diff. things.and if they dont care for animals they can ignore this thread.for those who do care for animals,there could be someone who posts all the latest news on wats going on with the animals of the world.everyone can do that really!:)so maybe we should start a new thread titled the animal rights thread in pets?

will do! and if you find something out or hear something on the news bout animals feel free to post!:)

AngelinaC
01-01-2008, 06:22 PM
You got to respect them for standing up for what they believe though.

Except that some of them stand up for their beliefs i the same way Osama Bin Laden does...

Freethinker
01-01-2008, 06:23 PM
As far as the banter on this board goes, it's beyond sickening. You guys are all laffing and joking and don't give a shit about the horrific animal cruelty that takes place on factory farms all day, everyday. It's all good as long as you get some meat, right?

Eating meat is not the problem. I eat meat but there are humane farms out there that don't brutalize animals before slaughtering them. They have a decent life for the few months they're allowed to live, and are killed humanely.

There's a HUGE difference between factory farms and humane/organic farms and believe it or not, the meat you guys are eating is not only from tortured, sick and many times diseased animals, it is full of chemicals, steroids, growth hormones and antibiotics, but that's ok, right?

AS LONG AS IT TASTES GOOD!

Excellent post.

You've done a good job of highlighting many people's cruel and thoughtless attitudes toward the abuse of animals raised for meat.

paulaorcas
01-01-2008, 06:26 PM
i know.whether they are raised for meat or not,whether they are about to die or not,that is no reason to mistreat them bc they can feel pain too.scumbelina has a great point.