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Travh20
07-29-2004, 04:16 PM
As the capmaign drags on, I am left to ponder many things about the race, mainly about JFK, or as we know him, John Kerry. I always joke about how all the liberals who hate miolitary service and war cling to Kerrys war service like grim death, and it is always the first thing out of thier mouth when searching for something good to say about the man. It was always funny to see these leftys trying to talk military shop about combat and medals and grenades, but I realized something today, its a smoke screen. I first got the idea that they were being disengenious about their amount of awe for Kerrys brief service after thinking about how easily they cast off teh impressive war record of Sen. Dole, who served as an infantry officer for the mighty 10th mountiain division in the italian campaign, losng the use of his right arm to some Kraut artillery. After seeing them swear up and down it didnt matter, then see them suddenly do an about face on the subject and embrace Kerrys service with such a tight grip, I began to wonder why. I then realized they were hiding something. They are hiding the rest of Senator Kerrys record behind his 3 questionalble purple hearts. I want the die hard Kerry supports to tell me some of the good things he has done since he got out of vietnam. Tell me the high points of his voting record, especially his support of the military and national defense since he got into the senate. Kerry has been in the senate 57 times longer then he was in vietnam, yet all we hear about is his 4 months in vietnam, which amounts to a blink of an eye in his federal service. I notice his senate service is NEVER mentioned, and his entire candidacy is based on 4 months on a boat in vietnam. If we are to vote soley based on vietnam service tehn we maybe should vote for someone else. we could find the most decorated veteran of that war and put him in kerrys place. since I hear absolutly NOTHING about his voting record, expect for from the republicans who are more then willing to talk about it, I am assuming the enitre basis for the democrats putting kerry up there is because he served in vietnam, period. if thats the case I am sure they coud get someone a little more battle hardened and decorated, someone who didnt have the time or chance to re-enact battles for a camera. :confused:

DarkFantasy96
07-29-2004, 11:39 PM
I consider myself a liberal, but I don't know much about Kerry. However, I don't think we can go anywhere but up from our current President!

no moore please
07-29-2004, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by DarkFantasy96
I consider myself a liberal, but I don't know much about Kerry. However, I don't think we can go anywhere but up from our current President!

that is why germany voted for hitler...they hated the other guys

Lady Ann
07-30-2004, 12:15 AM
He has everything. Did you hear his speech tonight?
And You Republican' do not own the flag or God.
I go to Church and teach Sunday School and I fly
my flag everyday. And I will vote for John Kerry--
thank you.

es347fan
07-30-2004, 12:31 AM
Kerry & his ex-shyster ambulance chasing running mate are a real pair, they're just not preaching to me. Not that Bush is either, but I prefer his general approach. Kerry playing his decorated vet song is lost on me. BFD ... I got ribbons in Nam too.

The Praetorian
07-30-2004, 10:33 AM
Kerry's Nam push is no more than a smokescreen. He's a career politician, and a shitty one at that. God help us if he's elected...

Vilepagan
07-30-2004, 11:29 AM
Ill take a stab at some of the things he has to offer.

Optimism.

Something different from what we have now.

A sense that he doesn't want to divide this country along political or philosophical lines.

He doesn't want to amend the Constitution to discriminate against a segment of our population.

A sense that he wants to eliminate the laws that give breaks to corporations that use loopholes to avoid paying American taxes.

I watched most of his speech last night, and while it was filled with the same rhetoric that you would expect form such a speech, I felt it was a good one.

For the first time in this campaign I feel that I want to vote FOR Kerry, rather than AGAINST Bush.

Travh20
07-30-2004, 11:40 AM
the democrats are not optomistic. it is fake and very forced. the sheer number of time they had to mention optimism says it all. if you dont feel optimistic from the speech and have to be reminded how optomistic and positive thes guys are, then they are no really all that positive and optimistic. Liberals by their nature are downers. its always the end of the world with these guys.

Vilepagan
07-30-2004, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
the democrats are not optomistic. it is fake and very forced. the sheer number of time they had to mention optimism says it all. if you dont feel optimistic from the speech and have to be reminded how optomistic and positive thes guys are, then they are no really all that positive and optimistic. Liberals by their nature are downers. its always the end of the world with these guys.

Trav, you are what a famous republican called "a nattering nabob of negativism"...you claim to be a conservative, yet all you do is constantly complain about the liberals...talk about being a downer.

I felt the speech was an optimistic one and it made me feel optimistic so...you're just wrong Trav. Again.

BTW, what makes you think you have the first damn clue what liberals think?

jon_37920
07-31-2004, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by Lady Ann
He has everything. Did you hear his speech tonight?
And You Republican' do not own the flag or God.
I go to Church and teach Sunday School and I fly
my flag everyday. And I will vote for John Kerry--
thank you.

While pleased that you serve your Church, you say you teach Sunday School !! Do you teach the very profound issues that the Democratic platform supports. Exactally how do you send your message to those you teach in Sunday School. About the very issues you claim you support that "He has everything" !! Does he have the correct moral respective messages that should be taught in church!!

Vilepagan
07-31-2004, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by jon_37920
Does he have the correct moral respective messages that should be taught in church!![/i]

Just what would be the "correct" moral perspective that should be taught in church?

Which church?

Overdose
07-31-2004, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by The Praetorian
He's a career politician, and a shitty one at that.
Funny how you attack John Kerry’s record in the Senate, and his experience. Yet you were in full support of George Bush, having almost not record in 2000.

Originally posted by The Praetorian
God help us if he's elected...
I say the same exact thing for George Bush…

jon_37920
08-01-2004, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by Vilepagan
Just what would be the "correct" moral perspective that should be taught in church?

Which church?

VILEPAGAN, with respect the "platform" of the Democratic party, leaves many doors open of not being morally acceptable. I truly believe that "NO" chruch would feel comfortable with some of the issues associated with their "PLATFORM". And about the young lady, Ann, I was just curious of her speaking about her serving her church, how she honestly feels about The Democrats platform. ( I guess where I'm going, is a church going young lady supporting issues that are not consistent with a chuch-going gal). Of course only my opinion!!!
ANN, I got you this "T" for your next church picnic !!!!If you cant make use of it and never had a abortion give to one of your fellow friends at the picnic

Abortion is a pro Democratic "platform issue", I have stated that actually the subject doesnt need to be in the political arena, again only my opinion

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Lungdop Philing
08-01-2004, 02:24 PM
There's nothing complicated about what Kerry offers.

Jobs, health care and education.

That's all he needs to get elected. No one really cares about this phoney war for Oil and Halliburton and especially anyone in the 18-29 year old range.

People have 2 choices -- vote Bush and watch their jobs go to India or vote for Kerry and keep the jobs here.

I prefer to keep my job.

Dop

DanF
08-01-2004, 06:32 PM
The only thing I have seen Kerry offer is a pipe dream speech.
Speeches mean nothing. Talk is cheap.

I wish I could have faith in what Kerry promises. We need the things he talks about. I just don't have any faith in lying politicians. Including Bush.
Both of these parties are self-serving.
I see no alternative on the horizon for the proper growth of the average American.

Travh20
08-02-2004, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by Lungdop Philing
There's nothing complicated about what Kerry offers.

Jobs, health care and education.

That's all he needs to get elected. No one really cares about this phoney war for Oil and Halliburton and especially anyone in the 18-29 year old range.

People have 2 choices -- vote Bush and watch their jobs go to India or vote for Kerry and keep the jobs here.

I prefer to keep my job.

Dop

If you vote for me I promise everyone will get a car and home, free health care and a job where they get paid more then they are worth. hows that? That should about cover it. Combat experience? check. Big empty promisies? check. I guess I am ready to run against Kerry. Since his 20 year senate record and stint as Mass LT Governor has been erased from memory, we are about equal in all regards, except for that pesky billion dollars he has, damnit I knew there was something!