I’d have to say I have tons of respect for her. She has revolutionized the culture we live in today. She’s always broken the mold of America, and has pushed censorship her whole career.

Madonna also has a lot of great songs, and she always changes her style of music.

Anyway, what does everyone else think…about her?

We're talking about Esther, right? ;) I think she's quite talented and quite savvy. I liked alot of the music she put out in the 80s, but liked her music less and less as time has gone on. Her constant changing of musical styles seems less like growth as a musician and more like manipulation of her audience. I just can't get over this gut feeling that she's less of a musician and more of a marketing phenonenon. Which doesn't mean that I don't think she's talented.

madonna is gay. her music is pop which is crap and she is anti-america. she doesnt want her kids to live here, but she still feels like she should have a say on politics here. stupid bitch in my opinion

Originally posted by no moore please
madonna is gay. her music is pop which is crap and she is anti-america. she doesnt want her kids to live here, but she still feels like she should have a say on politics here. stupid bitch in my opinion

Madonna is homosexual, really? Wow, that is amazing!

Her music is pop? It's changed from Techno, Pop, and Spiritual. Her music has changed so much. You must not pay attention to her music.

Just because she does not want her kids to live here (Quote/Link please), does not mean she should "shut up". She was born here, and has every right to say what she wants about our Government.

And how is she Anti-America? Just because she does not simply agree with George Bush?

Originally posted by Overdose
Madonna is homosexual, really? Wow, that is amazing!

Her music is pop? It's changed from Techno, Pop, and Spiritual. Her music has changed so much. You must not pay attention to her music.

Just because she does not want her kids to live here (Quote/Link please), does not mean she should "shut up". She was born here, and has every right to say what she wants about our Government.

And how is she Anti-America? Just because she does not simply agree with George Bush?

pop in general, smart ass.
gay is a slang for something that is annoying, stupid, etc.
if you dont ike this country and it doesnt make a difference in your life then SHUT THE FUCK UP

she is anti-america because she does not wanther kids to live here. that is anti america.

why the hell do you like her anyways. she is a slut

Originally posted by no moore please
pop in general, smart ass.

Really? I’m listening to her records right now, and they are far different then the pop we have now.

Originally posted by no moore please
gay is a slang for something that is annoying, stupid, etc.

Gay means homosexual, in today’s language. So I guess homosexuality would be considered annoying, and stupid etc.?

Originally posted by no moore please
if you dont ike this country and it doesnt make a difference in your life then SHUT THE FUCK UP

She has disagreed with the current Administration and the direction America is going in. Besides I don’t like our Government right now, and the only way to change it, is if you speak out against it, and try and change it. Which is exactly what she is doing.

Originally posted by no moore please
she is anti-america because she does not wanther kids to live here. that is anti america.

So everyone who leaves the United States because they believe there is another place better, is Anti America? Maybe she believes there is other countries better then America that would better suit her children’s needs. Just because she wants to go somewhere else, does not mean she is Anti American. She just believes there is better places in the world that would fit her and her children’s needs better.

Originally posted by no moore please
she is a slut

How so?

Originally posted by Overdose
Really? I’m listening to her records right now, and they are far different then the pop we have now.



Gay means homosexual, in today’s language. So I guess homosexuality would be considered annoying, and stupid etc.?



She has disagreed with the current Administration and the direction America is going in. Besides I don’t like our Government right now, and the only way to change it, is if you speak out against it, and try and change it. Which is exactly what she is doing.



So everyone who leaves the United States because they believe there is another place better, is Anti America? Maybe she believes there is other countries better then America that would better suit her children’s needs. Just because she wants to go somewhere else, does not mean she is Anti American. She just believes there is better places in the world that would fit her and her children’s needs better.



How so?

i am not going to argue about this with you. it will go nowhere. if her music for some reason makes you happy, then good. i dont lik her. i dont think she is talented, but that is my opinion. i just hve to ask why you take everything so literal...like my gay comment. do you not socialize??

how old are you oD cause you act like 12

Originally posted by no moore please
i just hve to ask why you take everything so literal...

I only take things “literal” when I’ve been offended. Equating “Gay” which means Homosexual with being annoying and or stupid is offensive. You may not think so, because I highly doubt you are “gay” or “bi”. So it’s pointless arguing with you about this.

Originally posted by no moore please
do you not socialize??

I socialize, just fine thank you.

Oh and I'm 15

Originally posted by Overdose
I only take things “literal” when I’ve been offended. Equating “Gay” which means Homosexual with being annoying and or stupid is offensive. You may not think so, because I highly doubt you are “gay” or “bi”. So it’s pointless arguing with you about this.



I socialize, just fine thank out. But again, not when I’m offended.

i am not against gay. it is a word i use all the time. i mean no offense to thema dn when i said it, i didnt mean she was gay literally. you know that. you just have no friends and want to be annoying

Originally posted by no moore please
i am not against gay. it is a word i use all the time. i mean no offense to thema dn when i said it, i didnt mean she was gay literally. you know that.

Stop using it. It is offensive. You are equating a group of people, with being annoying and stupid. Gay in today’s lingo means homosexual. It’s offensive when you put it in the context of being annoying and stupid.

Originally posted by no moore please
you just have no friends and want to be annoying

I have no friends? You know this, too? You’ve never met me, and to make an assumption that ridiculous is extremely funny.

Speaking of having no friends, I have 3 over at my house right now, jumping on my trampoline. But yes, I have no friends.

Originally posted by Overdose
Stop using it. It is offensive. You are equating a group of people, with being annoying and stupid. Gay in today’s lingo means homosexual. It’s offensive when you put it in the context of being annoying and stupid.



I have no friends? You know this, too? You’ve never met me, and to make an assumption that ridiculous is extremely funny.

Speaking of having no friends, I have 3 over at my house right now, jumping on my trampoline. But yes, I have no friends.

i am not going to stop saying it. if i want to say soemthing is gay i will say it. you may have friends but i dont know why. you are annoying....the most annoying

Originally posted by no moore please
i am not going to stop saying it. if i want to say soemthing is gay i will say it.

Go ahead and say gay all you want. I hope you have tons of fun saying it. I guess it makes you happy to equate homosexuals with being annoying and stupid.

Originally posted by no moore please
you may have friends but i dont know why. you are annoying....the most annoying

If you only knew. It’s your opinion I’m annoying. And I’m sure my friends would disagree. I’m also positive they would think you’re “annoying” because they to, would be offended if you threw around the word “gay” as if it's nothing to worry about.

Originally posted by no moore please
i am not going to stop saying it. if i want to say soemthing is gay i will say it. you may have friends but i dont know why. you are annoying....the most annoying
If something is gay, it is either homosexual or happy and jolly...read a dictionary.

Originally posted by Overdose
Go ahead and say gay all you want. I hope you have tons of fun saying it. I guess it makes you happy to equate homosexuals with being annoying and stupid.



If you only knew. It’s your opinion I’m annoying. And I’m sure my friends would disagree. I’m also positive they would think you’re “annoying” because they to, would be offended if you threw around the word “gay” as if it's nothing to worry about.

i will have fun saying it:L gays are annoying and stupid. ask borghunter and idioteque if i really think that

Originally posted by BorgHunter
If something is gay, it is either homosexual or happy and jolly...read a dictionary.

you are acting gay

Originally posted by no moore please
you are acting gay
Please show me where I was exhibiting homosexual tendencies or acting rather upbeat in my post...

Originally posted by no moore please
i will have fun saying it:L gays are annoying and stupid. ask borghunter and idioteque if i really think that

You may not mean it, or think it. But it will appear that you do indeed think it. And why you can’t just say she’s “stupid”, blows my mind. Gay does mean happy, but mainly, in today’s society means homosexual. And when you equate being stupid or annoying with gay, it implies (even if you don’t mean it) that you believe homosexuals are annoying and stupid.

"she is anti-america because she does not wanther kids to live here. that is anti america. " << That is pretty gay thing to say. Shall I quote your own definition of 'gay'?

No moore...I'm surprised you don't spell gay "ghey". It seems to fit the immaturity of your argument.

Originally posted by Idioteque
No moore...I'm surprised you don't spell gay "ghey". It seems to fit the immaturity of your argument.

well al know ray is gay

OD: you have a trampoline too? I LOVE mine, it's sooo much fun. my parents really got it for my sister, the gymnast, but I probably use it just as often as her. I wanna have a sleepover on mine, have you ever done it? my parents don't think it will work, but I'm still hellbent on the idea.

no moore please: just don't use the word gay in a deragatory way. be mature about it. even if you don't mean anything negative by it, you're reflecting the homophobic attitudes that are far too prevalent in this country, and you should do your part, as a reasonable person (i hope) to combat it. coming up with another insult shouldn't be too difficult.

Originally posted by WhammyBar
OD: you have a trampoline too? I LOVE mine, it's sooo much fun. my parents really got it for my sister, the gymnast, but I probably use it just as often as her. I wanna have a sleepover on mine, have you ever done it? my parents don't think it will work, but I'm still hellbent on the idea.


Yes, I had a sleep over on my trampoline...it was fun. You should try it!

Originally posted by WhammyBar
OD: you have a trampoline too? I LOVE mine, it's sooo much fun. my parents really got it for my sister, the gymnast, but I probably use it just as often as her. I wanna have a sleepover on mine, have you ever done it? my parents don't think it will work, but I'm still hellbent on the idea.

no moore please: just don't use the word gay in a deragatory way. be mature about it. even if you don't mean anything negative by it, you're reflecting the homophobic attitudes that are far too prevalent in this country, and you should do your part, as a reasonable person (i hope) to combat it. coming up with another insult shouldn't be too difficult.

i dont care. i am not homophobic. it is slang. people should be mature and realize that...i guess all fo you dont like south park. they use it in a 'derogatory' way

Originally posted by no moore please
i dont care. i am not homophobic. it is slang. people should be mature and realize that...i guess all fo you dont like south park. they use it in a 'derogatory' way

Your slang is wrong. Try getting a larger vocabulary, it shouldn't be that hard! :)

And again, you may not be homophobic, but when you equate the word “Gay” which means homosexual in today’s society, with being stupid and annoying it will be offensive.

Originally posted by Overdose
Your slang is wrong. Try getting a larger vocabulary, it shouldn't be that hard! :)

And again, you may not be homophobic, but when you equate the word “Gay” which means homosexual in today’s society, with being stupid and annoying it will be offensive.

BELIEVE ME. i am quite educated

and if i offend anyone then they can bring it up with me and we can settle it any way they want. i dont give a fuck if i offend someone

Originally posted by no moore please
i am quite educated

Whatever helps you sleep at night

Originally posted by no moore please
i dont give a fuck if i offend someone

Point proven.

Originally posted by Overdose
Whatever helps you sleep at night

you like madonna...one to talk

and i will win the insult game with a sensitive kid like you

Originally posted by no moore please
you like madonna...one to talk

I’m not connecting the two…maybe I’m just “gay”

Originally posted by Overdose
I’m not connecting the two…maybe I’m just “gay”

probably...i do think you are stupid and annoying

Originally posted by no moore please
probably...i do think you are stupid and annoying

You win ;)

I have a basic rule - if someone from the potentially offended group (in this case, Vile) tells me that they're offended, I'll listen. If someone is being offended for them, I don't care.

Originally posted by LionelHutz
I have a basic rule - if someone from the potentially offended group (in this case, Vile) tells me that they're offended, I'll listen. If someone is being offended for them, I don't care.
Mr. Wooden Teeth, the voice of sanity in a pointless, annoying, and stupid argument!

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Mr. Wooden Teeth, the voice of sanity in a pointless, annoying, and stupid argument!

arent you atheist?

Originally posted by no moore please
arent you atheist?
Agnostic...I lean toward atheism...

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Agnostic...I lean toward atheism...

alright. maybe you wont go to hell(i had to say it:p )

Originally posted by LionelHutz
I have a basic rule - if someone from the potentially offended group (in this case, Vile) tells me that they're offended, I'll listen. If someone is being offended for them, I don't care.

Who is to say I'm not apart of that group.

at least i am not affended by the word "Gay",

Originally posted by Overdose
Who is to say I'm not apart of that group.

Then admit to it and I'll listen.

Originally posted by LionelHutz
Then admit to it and I'll listen.

he is

i think

Originally posted by no moore please
he is
It'd be wise to let him answer for himself and not answer for him...you have no right to say what he is or is not...

hahaha...

I love Madonna, and I do not think she is gay, gay, or Gay.

COming of age in the 80's when she was huge, and we used the term gay for anything that was lame. As you all know, I am very open about supporting gay rights, so in no way to me is this term derogitory to gay people.


this thread is soooooooooo gay..........LOL

Originally posted by LionelHutz
I have a basic rule - if someone from the potentially offended group (in this case, Vile) tells me that they're offended, I'll listen. If someone is being offended for them, I don't care.

Perhaps I should have responded sooner but I was interested to see where this whole thread was going to go...

Well I'll weigh in here with a big fat resounding...who cares?

If no moore wants to make himself look foolish by using the term "gay" to mean "annoying and stupid" it doesn't insult or offend me, it just makes him look...well..."gay" :D

I must say though I think it's a very "no moorey" thing to do...it's very "no moorey" behavior if you know that some remark is potentially offensive and you go around saying it because you dont care if you offend people you don't even know. It's about as nice as putting a steaming pile of "no moore" in a paper bag and setting it on fire on someone's porch and ringing the doorbell and running away...it's just very"no moorey" ;)

Originally posted by BorgHunter
It'd be wise to let him answer for himself and not answer for him...you have no right to say what he is or is not...

or maybe he has told me before

Originally posted by no moore please
or maybe he has told me before
Read again what I said. If he did indeed, did you really have the right to announce that on the forum? What if he didn't want everyone to know that?

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Read again what I said. If he did indeed, did you really have the right to announce that on the forum? What if he didn't want everyone to know that?

you are rigght. sorry od. not my business

Instead of arguing about something that doesn't concern them, maybe people should learn to mind their own buisiness.

Originally posted by Idioteque
Instead of arguing about something that doesn't concern them, maybe people should learn to mind their own buisiness.

and that is attacking who?

It's not attacking anybody but the topic went from "who likes madonna" to "using the word gay" to "let's debate OD's sexuality even though we don't really know him and it's not really our buisiness".

Hey, Gay Ray joined that horrid conversation!
:D

Originally posted by Blibblob
Hey, Gay Ray joined that horrid conversation!
:D
:D

Originally posted by Idioteque
It's not attacking anybody but the topic went from "who likes madonna" to "using the word gay" to "let's debate OD's sexuality even though we don't really know him and it's not really our buisiness".

well whatever ray. we arent debating his sexuality. it is stupid to say that