Well I like the guy. Now if they win, I wont feel quite so bad - I can always hope Kerry drops dead and Edwards ends up Prez.

zzzzzzzzzzzz, wake me up when its over. stupid democrats do everything bass ackwards. kerry should be the veep and edwrds should be the candidate. maybe someday they will learn from their mistakes.

I agree with Trav. Kerry was picked only because they THOUGHT he could beat Bush. NOT because he was a good guy. IMO, this entire election sux big time. Nice to see you, Trav, BTW.

thanks cricket. good to be back. it is sad when you hope your VP candidate is going to pull you through. All the forced good feelings about kerry have been exposed. no on elikes that phony, they make themselves like him becasue he is all they got, sad.

Bad choice IMHO -- Gep would have brought them MO for sure and that would be enough to put the election out of reach from bush PERIOD.

I'm not buying the scenario where Edwards delivers the south.
The southern states will go republican same as in 2K regardless of the VP. Edwards will bring in *ZERO* electoral votes and I'll go out on the limb that he won't even be able to deliver NC. The south is in the bag for the gop and the dems should just toss in the towel there and concentrate on another region.

Nice to see you posting trav

Dop

Agree Dop, I don't think Dems will get the Southern vote.
Maybe Florida if any at all.

American Chamber of Commerce stated a while back that they haven't supported a candidate for Pres. in 80 or 90 years, but if Kerry chose Edwards they would work against the Demos.
Most big business doesn't like trial lawyers.

But, Edwards can help in the south electing Dems to congress which could have a future effect.

Good point Dan about the trial lawyers.

Also check out yahoo's money page today and you'll quickly see the markets don't like him either.

Dop

I think Edwards has a lot of character. He would have been our Presidential candidate but he hasn’t had enough experience in our Government. Kerry was far superior in terms of working in Washington, and with foreign leaders. So, once Edwards has hopefully 4 years in office, or 8, he will gain the experience to become our President.

then to top it all off for overdose Edwards will pick micheal Moore his running mate, do 2 terms, then Moore will become president, wouldnt that make America truly great again!

Originally posted by Travh20
then to top it all off for overdose Edwards will pick micheal Moore his running mate, do 2 terms, then Moore will become president, wouldnt that make America truly great again!

Trav, when did I say I wanted Moore as President or Vice President? Stop posting irrelevant posts, that make no sense. You're pulling things out of your ass, and you know it.

it was supposed to be funny overdose, you need to relax.

Originally posted by Travh20
it was supposed to be funny overdose, you need to relax.

I don't take jokes from you. :)
Thanks, though.

whatever. I guess micheal moore told you not to laugh

Originally posted by Travh20
whatever. I guess micheal moore told you not to laugh

:)

From the information I have seen the only person in congress that failed to vote on issues more often than Edwards was Kerry.
So why suddenly do they have such an interest in what happens in America?
Being neither Demo or Repub I view all politicians as being so self serving. The little special interest groups. The sub-commities. Swayed by lobbys of special favors. Yet, I see no way to avoid such pitfalls where such power and money abounds.
The whole thing sometimes is just a big turnoff. There seems to be no alternative.
A lot of good people work hard and try to make their money last to take care of family necessities. Sometimes there is just to much month left at the end of the money. Politicians (good or bad) seem to live quite comfortably.
Sorry, I just get carried away sometimes with the magnitude of it all. :)

its funny that people say Eswards is so qualifyed for the VP office. he has served 1 term in the senate, proposed 70 some odd bills of which not one passed. before that he was a lawyer. doesnt sound to successful to me.

Originally posted by Travh20
its funny that people say Eswards is so qualifyed for the VP office. he has served 1 term in the senate, proposed 70 some odd bills of which not one passed. before that he was a lawyer. doesnt sound to successful to me.

Hmmm...he has more experience in public office than GWB had when he was elected President...

oh, and btw...he's a millionaire because he went out and made his money rather than inheriting it...sounds pretty successful to me...

oh, so i guess being chief executive of one of the largest states in the country is nothing right? or running large companys? legislating (with a 0% success rate remind you) or trial lawyeris not the same as leading or managing. I remember hearing that edwards was going to be a long shot to even win re election for his seat. that may have had something to do with the selection. It doesnt matter though, pinning your hopes on the VP to carry you to the white house is not going to get it done. its the top of the ticket that matters most. ask walter mondale.

Originally posted by Travh20
or running large companys?
I wouldn't go there, Trav...GW ran the company into the ground while he was running it...LOSING money...while Edwards is a self-made man...he actually earned his money through hard work rather than inheritance...

how did kerry earn all of his money? oh ya, he is a gold digger. lets not go into it. like I said, its the top of the ticket that counts. as soon as your VP is your ace in the hole you have no chance. if edwards is so freaking great, why isnt he the top of the ticket?

Originally posted by Travh20
as soon as your VP is your ace in the hole you have no chance. if edwards is so freaking great, why isnt he the top of the ticket?
I have no frickin' clue...I agree that Kerry was certainly not the proper choice in the Dem. primaries. Dean or Edwards belong at the top...not Kerry. But oh well, such is life...the wrong Republican was chosen in the 2000 primaries, as well...

Originally posted by Travh20
oh, so i guess being chief executive of one of the largest states in the country is nothing right?

Didn't say it was nothing...you called edwards' experience into question and I merely pointed out that he has 6 years in the Senate compared to Bush's 4 years as Governor, when he was elected President.

or running large companys?

You mean ruining large companies...

legislating (with a 0% success rate remind you) or trial lawyeris not the same as leading or managing.

Nope it's not the same, but Bush did neither...

It doesnt matter though, pinning your hopes on the VP to carry you to the white house is not going to get it done.

I guess we'll have to wait and see in November...

its the top of the ticket that matters most. ask walter mondale.

hmm...so what you're saying is that Bush didn't have enough experience to be President...

Trav...you contradict yourself at every turn...Edwards has more experience than Bush did but he's unqualified to be VP, yet Bush was qualified to be President...Edwards doesn't have enough experience but it's the "top of the ticket" that matters...you mean like Bush?

Ya gotta love the way the librul media is saying Edwards is just another rich white guy. Yeah, Kerry should have selected someone down on his luck like broke chenney. LMAO.

Also, the librul media is knocking Kerry for not selecting a minority. Like the republicans have some kind of track record in that area -- wait a minute while I count -- OK ... got it ... there are 38 democrat minorities in congress (house) and 0 (yeah that's a zero) republicans.

Or howz 'bout the argument that Edwards has no military experience. Whoa boy -- that's a mouthfull coming from an AWOL/I refuse to take my pre-flight p-test pres and a 5-deferrment/I had better things to do/f-you VP.

These arguments from the gop and the librul media are so laughable that it deserves one of my BWAhahahahahahaha's.

Look for chenney to come abreast (pun intended) with a heart problem and a new VP appointed in the new future. Maybe Powell, maybe Rice -- then watch their racist base as their heads begin to explode and brain tissue slimes Bob Jones University like in the movie 'the blob'.

These clowns are the best thing since Laurel and Hardy. Bring em on.

ROTF

Dop

pagan, george bush did a good job as governor of texas, and was very popular. edwards did not get one of his proposed bills passed in 6 years and was not even expected to win re election. now if you think edwards floundering and failing to pass a single bill in the senate gives him more experience then being chief executive of Texas then thats your call. I think you are just towing the party line.

Originally posted by Lungdop Philing
Ya gotta love the way the librul media is saying Edwards is just another rich white guy. Yeah, Kerry should have selected someone down on his luck like broke chenney. LMAO.

Also, the librul media is knocking Kerry for not selecting a minority. Like the republicans have some kind of track record in that area -- wait a minute while I count -- OK ... got it ... there are 38 democrat minorities in congress (house) and 0 (yeah that's a zero) republicans.

Or howz 'bout the argument that Edwards has no military experience. Whoa boy -- that's a mouthfull coming from an AWOL/I refuse to take my pre-flight p-test pres and a 5-deferrment/I had better things to do/f-you VP.

These arguments from the gop and the librul media are so laughable that it deserves one of my BWAhahahahahahaha's.

Look for chenney to come abreast (pun intended) with a heart problem and a new VP appointed in the new future. Maybe Powell, maybe Rice -- then watch their racist base as their heads begin to explode and brain tissue slimes Bob Jones University like in the movie 'the blob'.

These clowns are the best thing since Laurel and Hardy. Bring em on.

ROTF

Dop

Dop, not one of your predictions has come true.

Originally posted by Travh20
pagan, george bush did a good job as governor of texas, and was very popular.

No doubt there are many who would disagree with you on that.

edwards did not get one of his proposed bills passed in 6 years and was not even expected to win re election.

Well, he wasn't expected to get elected to the Senate in the first place, so I'm not sure how relevant that is...

now if you think edwards floundering and failing to pass a single bill in the senate gives him more experience then being chief executive of Texas then thats your call.

He has more experience...whether or not it is better experience depends on what he's learned from it...

I think you are just towing the party line.

Trav, I don't follow any political parties which of course you know, or you would if you actually read my posts on subjects like gun-control...and I'd like to point out that your posts do not come across as shining examples of independent thought...

I will most likely be attending a rally tonight with John Kerry and John Edwards. I'm really exited. I'll post about it when i get back.

better take your No_Doze

BWAhahahaha ...

In North Carolina, when comparing Edwards and Cheney, Bush says 'Dick Cheney can be president' ...

First off - Dick '5-deferrments' Cheney *IS* president.

Second -- doesn't this genius president understand that Cheney has a popularity rating of 32% as we speak and he shouldn't be reminding people that a very unlikable guy could be president.

ROTFLMAO

Dop

anyone who has to be reminded that the vice president can be the next president at any moment shouldnt even be allowed to vote

Interesting that during the primaries Kerry said Edwards was not qualified to be Pres.
Today he said Edwards "is ready to lead America."

If you put Edwards, Kerry, Bush, Cheney all in the same bag I don't know who would fall out first.

Originally posted by Dan Fussell
If you put Edwards, Kerry, Bush, Cheney all in the same bag I don't know who would fall out first.

Let's try it and see what happens. Make sure it's air-tight.

Originally posted by Dan Fussell
Interesting that during the primaries Kerry said Edwards was not qualified to be Pres.
Today he said Edwards "is ready to lead America."



C'mon Dan...in the primaries they were running against each other. Do you really think they're supposed to sing each other's praises during the primaries?

I've heard Republicans make statements just like this and they know very well that it's just politics. If that's the worst thing they can say about Kerry and Edwards it means they're running scared...

I just got back from the Kerry/Edwards rally. It was nuts! They were expecting about 1000 people, the venue could hold 2000. About 5000 people showed up! The line to get in went all the way around 2 blocks. When John Kerry got there, the cops blocked out all of the streets and Kerry drove around while everybody clapped. The building filled up and we had to wait outside during the speech. It was kind of hard to hear with all the loony repubs protesting but they shut up after we yelled at them for a while. Sen. Kerry and Sen. Edwards both gave powerful inspiring speeches and I have a hunch that they will win Florida by a landslide!!

I agree 100% Vile. Its just politics.
Just keep in mind that when politicians speak to the public whether its your favorite or mine(which right now I don't have one) that its just politics. Their speech is only to acquire votes.

I saw the results of a pole today that was sad. I have said before that I do not put a lot of stock in poles but what caught my attention was the fact that appx: one third of those poled responded with the answer that they would be voting for
the LESSER of TWO EVILS in the 2004 election. The other 2 thirds were spread between what the candidates had to say and party loyalty.

This would mean to me that only 1 third of the people believe what politicians say.(hard to believe that many believe politicians.)
1 third has no faith in any candidate.
1 third would vote for a party candidate regardless of who he is.

I think we are between the rock and hardplace this year.

ya, one rally the day after they announce the running mate is proof positive of a sure landslide. silly kids :rolleyes: