It's just been reported John Kerry's wife is worth more than $500,000,000 Damn thats a lot of Ketchup now. Can you immagine Kerry probably says honey how's the household budget this month ??

This is in World News, why?

Why is it that Democrats who preach to the working man have no clue how a working family lives? All politicians seem to think they are all working stiffs but yet none of them really have a clue what toilet paper costs.

BV attacking Democrats again...what a shock

Funny, most of the money Republicans get are from Big Businesses...which in return have tons of money.

Reagan was what, a movie star...but yes, Kerry is bad because his wife is rich.

Originally posted by Beirut_Veteran
All politicians seem to think they are all working stiffs but yet none of them really have a clue what toilet paper costs.
I made the comment about Dems because they are supposed to be for the working class but if you notice what I said, it wasnt a direct attack on dems or only on dems. Little touchy OD?

you dont have to be the working class to be for the working class

BV, you say Democrats preach to the workingman. Yet his wife was actually married to a Republican senator (who was in the business of Heinz) not Kerry. So Kerry's wife's money has nothing to do with Democrats preaching to the working man.

Originally posted by Overdose
BV, you say Democrats preach to the workingman. Yet his wife was actually married to a Republican senator (who was in the business of Heinz) not Kerry. So Kerry's wife's money has nothing to do with Democrats preaching to the working man.
What the hell did that mean?
Because she was married to a republican he knows about the strife of a working family? I never said her money had a thing to do with it. I SAID why is it that dems who always say they are for the working family have no clue what it is to be one.

Rated by the way to help someone you need to have an understanding of their plight. No politician on the national level does and thus we have real problems.

You can be for the middle class, and not actually be apart of it. You can be for the homeless, and not be apart of it. You can help the homeless and not be apart of it. Kerry can be for the working class and not be apart of it. Hell I helped people at homeless shelters, and I’m all for helping them, and supporting them, yet I’m not apart of the homeless.

To be a real help you MUST understand the problem, to understand it you have to know something about it. Cant know alot about it if you have millions in the bank, hell ask Kerry in person what a 12 pack of toilet paper costs, or maybe ask him what the average American pays for utilities a month. I bet neither he nor Bush would have a clue. So how can you say you are going to help if you dont know what the problem is. DO you think either of them really know how hard it is to buy food for 7 people, pay rent, pay utililties and still make sure your kids have clothes and school supplies? I doubt either of them have done that in a very long time.

WOW, BV, PAY attention. I don’t know what it’s like for the homeless to freeze all night long, and not have a place to stay, or have food and proper health care. But I still support and help them. Just like Kerry can support and help the working class. Also, I’m sure he knows how much toilet paper costs, to assume he is treated like a King, is just insane…of course he knows, but you can assume he doesn’t, because you know, you like to go on assumptions.

Originally posted by Overdose
WOW, BV, PAY attention. I don’t know what it’s like for the homeless to freeze all night long, and not have a place to stay, or have food and proper health care. But I still support and help them. Just like Kerry can support and help the working class. Also, I’m sure he knows how much toilet paper costs, to assume he is treated like a King, is just insane…of course he knows, but you can assume he doesn’t, because you know, you like to go on assumptions.
By the way how would a person who hasnt done any shopping know how much something costs? They dont, you are assuming he does, I am saying he doesnt.

You assume he has never done his own shopping. BV you bring up the most stupid points sometimes. He does not know how much toilet paper costs, so he shouldn't and CAN'T BE for the working class. what a dumb thing to say....

Originally posted by Overdose
You assume he has never done his own shopping. BV you bring up the most stupid points sometimes. He does not know how much toilet paper costs, so he shouldn't and CAN'T BE for the working class. what a dumb thing to say....
Really, dumb? It was one of the main points made by Clinton and his Campaign people in 92, they said GHWB couldnt possibly care about the working class because he didnt know how to shop.
Again what is good for Dems is not good for Me? I will say it again, you have NO CLUE what I said in the first post, I said dems who say they are for the working class but yet they are not working class themselves, and I said all politicians have no clue. I never even mentioned Kerry in my first post, you brought him up.
A man who was very wealthy as well, a man who went sailing with the real JFK and a man who attempted to have the draft board postpone his draft, he joined the Navy and then when he came home petitioned to be discharged so he could run for congress. I guess you just dont think he is the same as all of the other politicians.

Either bring Clinton or dance around the issue at hand…because I don’t have to “agree” with what Clinton said about Bush…you do know, I can disagree with my own party. The fact remains; you don’t have to live like the working class, to be for the working class. So you saying, Dems who are for the working class, can’t be because they don’t know what it’s like, is wrong. I’m for the homeless, and I have no idea what it’s like.

Next please.

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OD, yes this is world news,when your running for President of the United States and it's found out that your wife is worth more than $500,000,000 it is astounding news. Name me one person running for some type of office anywhere in the world were there wife is reportedly worth more than five hundred million dollars ?? Now pass me the ketchup so I can finish these fries off !!!

although it qualitys as world news it qualifys more in politics

Well maybe your right Rared R, Maybe Politics Section,But when I read it in the News it was big news to me ,I new the woman was wealthy but didn't know she was like megga megga rich.Like one of the richest women in the world !!

John Kerry is a golddiger with no clue what goes on in the real world.

Originally posted by big worm
John Kerry is a golddiger with no clue what goes on in the real world.

As opposed to our fearless leader who likes to have pictures taken of himself clearing brush on his ranch...as if he didn't have a horde of ranch hands to do it for him.

some people like to get their hands dirty pagan. not every president lives and dies for the photo op. and not all environmentalists wear 500 dollar heels andeat caviar

I wonder in the Kerry household have they ever ,ever gone to the frig and said damn were all out of Ketchup !!!

I doubt the kerry household has ever had to go to the fridge.

Originally posted by TMW1956
Name me one person running for some type of office anywhere in the world were there wife is reportedly worth more than five hundred million dollars ??

Try her first husband, whose family owned Heinz...who was a Republican Senator, which is how she got all of her money.

I firmly believe that neither of the candidates have a clue what it is like to have to budget, run out of something or even come close to being broke and on the street. SO I said that it is hard for any of them to understand the working class.

As it's hard for me to understand the homeless.

Originally posted by Overdose
As it's hard for me to understand the homeless.
Ok OD I have ignored this comment many times, what do you truly know of the homeless?
Are you of the belief that feeding them is the best way to help them?

BV, you say Kerry cannot be for the working class, but that is the same as saying I can’t be for the homeless. That is lunatic. I am for the homeless, and giving them programs to jump-start their lives. I am for shelters to get their lives back on track, and donating food to them. I have no clue what it’s like to be homeless, but I can be for the homeless. Just like Kerry, Bush or any other politician can be for the working class, and not be apart of it.

didnt answer my questions

Originally posted by Beirut_Veteran
didnt answer my questions

Don't have to. I'm not here to be ordered around. I told you what I believe, and you can take it or leave it.

Here it is again,

“BV, you say Kerry cannot be for the working class, but that is the same as saying I can’t be for the homeless. That is lunatic. I am for the homeless, and giving them programs to jump-start their lives. I am for shelters to get their lives back on track, and donating food to them. I have no clue what it’s like to be homeless, but I can be for the homeless. Just like Kerry, Bush or any other politician can be for the working class, and not be apart of it.”

Well to call me a lunatic when I am actually participating in a two sided debate is ridiculous.
If you ask me a question I answer it in some form, to deny me the answer takes away my ability to formulate an intelligent response to your points.
By the way I am sure that Kerry nor Bush have a clue what the working class needs not an assumption but an opinion, much like the opinion you have.
So I would guess that since you wont answer a valid question then I will have to formulate an opinion that you dont know what it takes to help the homeless.

Go for it BV.

Originally posted by Overdose
Go for it BV.
I thought you were smarter than to just say go for it............. I guess I was wrong

Again, I’ve told you what I believe, and the questions are irrelevant to what I’m trying to say and my stance on this issue. So go ahead, believe what you want…

Originally posted by Overdose
Again, I’ve told you what I believe, and the questions are irrelevant to what I’m trying to say and my stance on this issue. So go ahead, believe what you want…
I believe that you only parrot an opinion; Evidence is that when asked for a reference you can never respond with anything other "you cant make me." ( I am not talking about articles that are the source of parroting, but I am talking about reports to back up the articles or even answering a question that would help me understand your point)
I believe Kerry like all National level politicians has no clue what the working class needs.
So I guess since you have not helped me to understand then I will continue to say that.

You can for the working class, and not live in it.
You can be for the homeless, and not be homeless.

Originally posted by Overdose
You can for the working class, and not live in it.
You can be for the homeless, and not be homeless.

Just because you can "be" for something does not mean you actually understand it.

Your point is? BV was saying you cannot be for the working class, since you don’t live like the working class. But you can be for something, you don’t understand. I don’t understand homelessness, but I am for helping them and supporting them.

Originally posted by Overdose
Your point is? BV was saying you cannot be for the working class, since you don’t live like the working class. But you can be for something, you don’t understand. I don’t understand homelessness, but I am for helping them and supporting them.
I said you would have to understand them to be able to help them.
Throwing money at these problems doesnt fix anything, feeding a man for a day only helps for that day.
Also you seem to think that since I said Dems that it was a personal attack on Kerry, I said ALL POLITICIANS, you might want to grow some thicker skin if you are going to debate politics as well OD.

I believe in setting up programs to help the homeless get back on their feet. I don’t throw money at them…when did I say that?

You can be for the homeless and not be homeless.
You can be for the working class and not be apart of the working class.

Originally posted by Overdose
Your point is? BV was saying you cannot be for the working class, since you don’t live like the working class. But you can be for something, you don’t understand. I don’t understand homelessness, but I am for helping them and supporting them.

You will never understand my point. Any clarification I might give you will attack and try and prove me wrong by posting link after link from liberal Web sites. Part of your problem is that you think you have every answer and can never see another persons point of view that is opposite from yours.

I can say the same for you…

WOW I never dreamed this thread would cause such a reaction,I thought most would just laugh it off and move to another. I love debait it's good, it broadens ones thinking.

Originally posted by Overdose
I can say the same for you…

No you can't;)

:D

its hardly new news that his wife is a multi-millionaire. They signed a pre-nuptual agreement also.

None of her money can help Kerry - campaign finance law prevents it. In the primaries he re-mortgaged thei house to raise funds. He could do that because the house was also in his name.