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Dunkirk101
06-12-2004, 05:20 AM
Have you ever been in a situation where you were forced to do something that may appear to be politically necessary, but at the same time goes directly against your moral judgement? Like your mind (common sense) tells you to do one thing, but your heart (emotions) tells you to do the opposite?

Heres an example

You may be a policemen, military combatant, ect. You are given an order to do something that you feel is definitely wrong, but your sworn loyalty to your profession forces you to obey the command that you were given. Later on in life you constantly think about this incident and what you have done, but since its now a part of your past you can do nothing to go back and correct your actions. How do you deal with this?

If you were caught in a delimma between you heart and mind, how do you decide on which to obey? Is the punishment for being disloyal better than a lifetime of regretting your actions while being obedient?

DanF
06-14-2004, 01:18 PM
Dunkirk I believe that if an action is taken in the past one should let the unchangeable go.
If you mean feelings of guilt persisting later in life, this can be very detrimental.
I believe that guilt is one of the heavest anchors one can place upon oneself.
Look to the future and learn from the experience. This is the only prudent thing to do.

The Dude
08-13-2006, 05:02 PM
I understand what your talking about Dunkirk101.......

Sometimes people are afraid to just do what they want cause it "isnt the norm"...

Ppl need to start not caring about what others think and do what feels rite in thier hearts..........

Blob
08-13-2006, 06:17 PM
You may be a policemen, military combatant, ect. You are given an order to do something that you feel is definitely wrong, but your sworn loyalty to your profession forces you to obey the command that you were given. Later on in life you constantly think about this incident and what you have done, but since its now a part of your past you can do nothing to go back and correct your actions. How do you deal with this?

If you were caught in a delimma between you heart and mind, how do you decide on which to obey? Is the punishment for being disloyal better than a lifetime of regretting your actions while being obedient?I think this is an exagerated form of something all professionals face in their jobs. There is always a cost-benefit pay-off between doing what's right (or at least what fits the ideals that brought one into the profession) and doing what's wrong (or against those ideals) but expected. I think the solution most well-intentioned people adopt is to do a few bad things in order to remain in a job where they can still do the good things they want to do. Happily the bad things are not too often as bad as the killing of other people subtley implied by the above example being an armed obeyer of commands.

More generally I think we all are forced to balance being naughy-or-nice in all aspects of our lives.

~Sal~
08-13-2006, 09:21 PM
Have you ever been in a situation where you were forced to do something that may appear to be politically necessary, but at the same time goes directly against your moral judgement? Like your mind (common sense) tells you to do one thing, but your heart (emotions) tells you to do the opposite?

Heres an example

You may be a policemen, military combatant, ect. You are given an order to do something that you feel is definitely wrong, but your sworn loyalty to your profession forces you to obey the command that you were given. Later on in life you constantly think about this incident and what you have done, but since its now a part of your past you can do nothing to go back and correct your actions. How do you deal with this?

If you were caught in a delimma between you heart and mind, how do you decide on which to obey? Is the punishment for being disloyal better than a lifetime of regretting your actions while being obedient?

The problem with the options above is that there is no time frame stated. Does one have days or weeks to make a choice and ponder the possible ramifications for all involved, or does one have seconds? I think it makes a difference in the outcome.

However, I truly believe that once one has made a decision and acted upon it, one must live with it as best as one can. One may ultimately regret the action and feel guilt and although the past can not be changed what we have done in the past CAN change what we do in the future. So perhaps past mistakes can be atoned for by future behavior. I think they can if we do not allow ourselves to be frozen by guilt and regret.

500lbguerilla
08-19-2006, 05:23 PM
If you were caught in a delimma between you heart and mind, how do you decide on which to obey? Is the punishment for being disloyal better than a lifetime of regretting your actions while being obedient?
Its best to learn from said mistake and not allow oneself to be put in that position again. Or to come up with an alternative plan of action before hand (like refusing action X, Y and Z should they pop up).

Everyone makes mistakes. The major problem is that everyone doesn't learn from them.

sonny5700
09-09-2006, 09:09 PM
:D thnk before you act. If you can't then I guess it is a lottery :D

sonny

Blob
09-10-2006, 06:45 AM
Welcome sonny5700!

sonny5700
09-10-2006, 11:52 AM
Thanks Blob!

sonny