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Pepper
06-02-2004, 06:58 PM
Still no arrest warrent for Ken Lay....


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/01/eveningnews/main620SPAMSPAMSPAM.shtml

(CBS) When a forest fire shut down a major transmission line into California, cutting power supplies and raising prices, Enron energy traders celebrated, CBS News Correspondent Vince Gonzales reports.

"Burn, baby, burn. That's a beautiful thing," a trader sang about the massive fire.

Four years after California's disastrous experiment with energy deregulation, Enron energy traders can be heard ? on audiotapes obtained by CBS News ? gloating and praising each other as they helped bring on, and cash-in on, the Western power crisis.

"He just f---s California," says one Enron employee. "He steals money from California to the tune of about a million."

"Will you rephrase that?" asks a second employee.

"OK, he, um, he arbitrages the California market to the tune of a million bucks or two a day," replies the first.

The tapes, from Enron's West Coast trading desk, also confirm what CBS reported years ago: that in secret deals with power producers, traders deliberately drove up prices by ordering power plants shut down.

"If you took down the steamer, how long would it take to get it back up?" an Enron worker is heard saying.

"Oh, it's not something you want to just be turning on and off every hour. Let's put it that way," another says.

"Well, why don't you just go ahead and shut her down."

Officials with the Snohomish Public Utility District near Seattle received the tapes from the Justice Department.

"This is the evidence we've all been waiting for. This proves they manipulated the market," said Eric Christensen, a spokesman for the utility.

That utility, like many others, is trying to get its money back from Enron.

"They're f------g taking all the money back from you guys?" complains an Enron employee on the tapes. "All the money you guys stole from those poor grandmothers in California?"

"Yeah, grandma Millie, man"

"Yeah, now she wants her f------g money back for all the power you've charged right up, jammed right up her a------ for f------g $250 a megawatt hour."

And the tapes appear to link top Enron officials Ken Lay and Jeffrey Skilling to schemes that fueled the crisis.

"Government Affairs has to prove how valuable it is to Ken Lay and Jeff Skilling," says one trader.

"Ok."

"Do you know when you started over-scheduling load and making buckets of money on that?

Before the 2000 election, Enron employees pondered the possibilities of a Bush win.

"It'd be great. I'd love to see Ken Lay Secretary of Energy," says one Enron worker.

That didn't happen, but they were sure President Bush would fight any limits on sky-high energy prices.

"When this election comes Bush will f------g whack this s--t, man. He won't play this price-cap b------t."

Crude, but true.

"We will not take any action that makes California's problems worse and that's why I oppose price caps," said Mr. Bush on May 29, 2001.

Both the Justice Department and Enron tried to prevent the release of these tapes. Enron's lawyers argued they merely prove "that people at Enron sometimes talked like Barnacle Bill the Sailor."

Vilepagan
06-02-2004, 07:41 PM
I think it will prove more than that. I still wonder why Lay hasn't been indicted yet. Here's hoping he ends up with a nice long prison sentence.

LionelHutz
06-02-2004, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by Vilepagan
I think it will prove more than that. I still wonder why Lay hasn't been indicted yet. Here's hoping he ends up with a nice long prison sentence.

They've been having problems coming up with iron-clad proof that he really knew what was going on. Hopefully this tape will help.

Idioteque
06-02-2004, 08:53 PM
Why imprison Ken Lay when you have Martha Stewart, that uppity bitch :D .

Overdose
06-09-2004, 12:24 AM
yeah, this is just crazy. honestly.

DrewM
06-09-2004, 01:23 AM
Unless Ken Lay is actually talking on the tape then it doesn't hurt him one bit.

The tape sounds like a bunch of guys bullshitting - hardly star evidence.

Those Enron people were something else. In 2001 I had a series of interviews with Enron for a job with them. Went to Houston a few times to their offices. They were building some new extravagant tower at the time that was semi-complete - probably is still semi-complete. The offices were plush - everybody had 2 19" flatscreens on their desk and one guy was bragging about losing 18 million that day like it was no big deal. Nice cafeteria.

They were pretty much full of themselves saying how amazing the company was...in 3 years you'll be rich & the thing that blew me away was when in one interview the guy said there is nothing you can ask for that we can't give. They offered me the job and I asked for an outrageous package - way beyond what they had offered, restricted stock, 2 year salary severance deal - the works. They baulked on it. I was glad - It all seemed so good that I felt if I didn't take the job I'd just be stupid and making a big mistake, but part of me felt uneasy. If they had given me what I asked for I could not have refused - so when they wouldn't then I walked. Not too long after I was like phew...good job I didn't take that job.