Story: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-05-04-athens-blasts_x.htm

The fact that President Bush says the world is safer that Saddam is now gone, is yet proven wrong by these attacks, and also with the Spain attacks.

This was directly giving America a warning sign of the threat of us becoming the targets for the Olympics. Proving that we are just as vulnerable now, then before 9-11.

so our homeland security department should stretch all the way around the world? I thought you didnt like us butting in to peoples buisness? since when are we responsible for securing the streets of athens? isnt that the job of the greek government? they were agaisnt the war so they should be safe right? its so stupid when liberals point out every attack in a european country as a reason the war in iraq is a failure. I dont remember bush saying there would never be another terrorist attack ever ever ever again. there are still terrorists, and they still hate us. do you think doing nothign would have been a better course of action? what exactly are you trying to say when you post this stuff?

"Police also believed the bombings were linked to domestic groups and not international terrorism."

Originally posted by Travh20
"Police also believed the bombings were linked to domestic groups and not international terrorism."

It's still Bush's fault!!! :rolleyes:

liberal demands proof fo anything bush says but any bomb that goes off inthe world is automatically directly linked to Iraq

Originally posted by Travh20
"Police also believed the bombings were linked to domestic groups and not international terrorism."

They were a warning sign to Americans, that we are most likely going to be attacked in the Olympics.

Yet Bush says we are “safer” now then ever before. HAHA GIVE ME A BREAK

Originally posted by Liberal 4 Life
They were a warning sign to Americans, that we are most likely going to be attacked in the Olympics.

Yet Bush says we are “safer” now then ever before. HAHA GIVE ME A BREAK

What part of "domestic" terrorist group don't you understand? Domestic groups don't care about Americans any more than the KKK cares about the foreign policies of Greece.

first of all, every terrorist group. no matter of what interest, will tey to bomb the olympics. it;s just the perfect oppurtunity. it's inevitable that an attack will happen, or come close to happening. who knows who orchestrated this one, but it's probably not the last.

liberal demands proof fo anything bush says but any bomb that goes off inthe world is automatically directly linked to Iraq

Originally posted by Liberal 4 Life
Story: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-05-04-athens-blasts_x.htm

The fact that President Bush says the world is safer that Saddam is now gone, is yet proven wrong by these attacks, and also with the Spain attacks.

This was directly giving America a warning sign of the threat of us becoming the targets for the Olympics. Proving that we are just as vulnerable now, then before 9-11.

Hard to follow what this has got to do with Bush. You can't hold him responsible for the ability of the Greek authorities to prevent terrorist acts.

It's no news that the Olympics is a risk of a terrorist act - but somehow i think it's unlikely they will attack the Olympics.

Originally posted by DrewM
Hard to follow what this has got to do with Bush. You can't hold him responsible for the ability of the Greek authorities to prevent terrorist acts.

It's no news that the Olympics is a risk of a terrorist act - but somehow i think it's unlikely they will attack the Olympics.

Bush said the world is safer now that Saddam is gone...this to me, is more proof that the world isn't safer. That's all.

What would constitute proof that the world was safer?

Some guy committed suicide in Cincinnati yesterday. And Bush was in town at the same time!!! Proof that the world is more dangerous and Bush is at fault!!!! :rolleyes:

Come on L4L, you stretched on this one, just admit it. There are plenty of legit things to call Bush out for without having to pin stuff like this on him.

Originally posted by LionelHutz
Some guy committed suicide in Cincinnati yesterday. And Bush was in town at the same time!!! Proof that the world is more dangerous and Bush is at fault!!!! :rolleyes:

Come on L4L, you stretched on this one, just admit it. There are plenty of legit things to call Bush out for without having to pin stuff like this on him.

I stick to my word. Haha. Even when I’m maybe somewhat wrong, I stick to my word! That’s what the republicans do; so I may as well stretch the truth, so here I go.

Bush says the world is safer, the WORLD. So I connect every WORLD event, that may be linked to terrorism to Bush’s “quote” of saying the WORLD is safer.

These attacks are to warn us of the upcoming Olympics, and just proves that WE and the WORLD is not safer now that Saddam is out of power.

Now you have my over stretched truth…have fun.

well, saddam hussein isnt going to be ordering any more gassings anymore, that we know. so the world is safer

Originally posted by Travh20
well, saddam hussein isnt going to be ordering any more gassings anymore, that we know. so the world is safer

But we are going to torture their civilians? If you were to really keep up on this, you’d know this has been going on since December, and it’s a larger issue then you think it is. But yes, Saddam Hussein won’t be ordering any more gassings. But to counter that, we have just as much terrorism now…and more enemies. So in reality, we aren’t...if you look at the BIG pictures. :)

I agree that the world really is no safer today after Iraq and probably less safe, but one cannot compare the current abuses of Iraqi prisoners to the level of human rights abuses committed by Hussain. The two are entirely different ball games.

Liberal,

Bush said the world was safer, not completely safe and nothing bad will ever happen ever again. Grow up and stop twisting a persons words into something they are not to benefit your own political agenda.

Liberal,

All you are doing is whining. President Bush has done something that, until now, only the Isrealis have been doing and that is trying to stop terrorists. And the most you can do is crawl about the web and find some bombing and snivel that Bush isn't making the world safer. It's people like you that give comfort and strength to terrorist. If the civilized world would unite, terrorism could be stopped, but we in the United States have to put up with whiners like you at home and the spineless euroweenies abroad that hamper those efforts.

Most people in Europe (France, Germany and now Spain) live very comfortable lives. They believe that if they leave the radical yahoos and thugs alone to torture and gas their own people somehow they will be left alone. It ain't going to work. And people like you better start realizing that.

Originally posted by Darth Be'lal
Liberal,

All you are doing is whining. President Bush has done something that, until now, only the Isrealis have been doing and that is trying to stop terrorists. And the most you can do is crawl about the web and find some bombing and snivel that Bush isn't making the world safer. It's people like you that give comfort and strength to terrorist. If the civilized world would unite, terrorism could be stopped, but we in the United States have to put up with whiners like you at home and the spineless euroweenies abroad that hamper those efforts.

Most people in Europe (France, Germany and now Spain) live very comfortable lives. They believe that if they leave the radical yahoos and thugs alone to torture and gas their own people somehow they will be left alone. It ain't going to work. And people like you better start realizing that.


Oh really and Iraq is stopping terrorism how? You have yet to show me actual, proof of Saddam being linked to 9/11 or Osama. Although it is possible, it hasn’t been proved, nor has the Bush administration used this as an argument. We are “liberating” people in Iraq, that isn’t stopping terrorism, but stopping a mass murderer. It isn’t the United States job to do this, and liberate everyone around the world.

This war has fueled more hatred for America and is giving us a more likely chance to get attacked. This war hasn’t done anything to stop terrorism.

The Spain attacks, and the thoughts of summer and Olympic attacks. This Iraq war is doing nothing to stop terrorism.

To say “leave it alone” is not the solution, is correct. So we should go after organizations that really do commit terror, not spend almost 100 percent of our time in Iraq. Yes we go after Al Quidea, but that isn’t all that’s out there. Plus we spend more time in Iraq, then on them.

Also why do we leave the MANY other countries around the world with massive killing and hatred? Why do we single out Iraq? That just seems ironic to me.

frankly, we have no clue what is being done to fight terorim. we can't. if anything is being done, it's all intelligence work. Iraq won't help, obviously, but who knows what else is going on. there could be nothing, or a full scale operation, or anything in between. the key to this is that it's secret. Saddam being gone isn't making this world a safer place, but blaming everyhting on bush will only hurt librals in general. the more there are people whining unreasonably about things, the less other people wnat to listen to liberals.

Liberal,

Let me draw you a picture and go REAL slow so you may understand. (read slowly!!)

Freeing Iraq good idea. If Iraqi have freedom, other people in other mid east country will want freedom. Freedom may spread. If freedom spreads, terrorist (the bad guys) no have base of people with which to recruit. Bad for terrorist, bad, bad, bad. Must stop America from spreading this democracy.

Also, why didn't you protest Clinton's actions in Kosovo? Clinton also said the same thing with Kosovo that Bush has said about Iraq. We have to stop murderous thugs, we must act now before the threat becomes imminent. Somehow I think most of your opposition to Iraq comes from the fact that it's a Republican is in the Whitehouse. I'm guessing it's not America's duty to spread freedom while a Conservative is in the Whitehouse. I'm sure though, that you can explain why it was America's job to go to Kosovo to uphold human rights but it's suddenly not our job to do so in Iraq. I do hope you can explain that. I'd hate to think that you support wars only when it's polictically expediant to do so.

Darth, Bush's reason for going into Iraq was weapons of mass destruction. He said something along the lines of being 100% sure that there were some. We have found none. Suddenly, Bush flipflops and starts to go on about how we achieved our goal of getting rid of Saddam...which was not our goal.

Originally posted by Darth Be'lal

Freeing Iraq good idea. If Iraqi have freedom, other people in other mid east country will want freedom. Freedom may spread. If freedom spreads, terrorist (the bad guys) no have base of people with which to recruit. Bad for terrorist, bad, bad, bad. Must stop America from spreading this democracy.

It is a good idea. It wasn’t the time or place for it, though. It’s not our job to free people around the world. Bush’s first reason for attacking Iraq was to stop an “imminent” threat to us…but you say they were “going to be an imminent” threat. Funny…? Now, the terrorists are angrier with us, and more willing to attack us. The first reason for invading Iraq was not to spread democracy but to “protect” us, but the UN proved Iraq was no threat. Flip Flooper?

Also they will be able to recruit more people, now that more and more reports are showing the abuse we are committing to the POW’s in Iraq. Even though it was only a few soldiers, the terrorists can “play it up” and make it seem as if all soldiers are like that. This has to be the biggest mistake we have done in Iraq. Plus they hated us and always have. We have no help and we cannot do it almost alone, so if we really want to spread democracy in Iraq we need the UN.

Originally posted by Darth Be'lal
Also, why didn't you protest Clinton's actions in Kosovo? Clinton also said the same thing with Kosovo that Bush has said about Iraq.

He didn’t launch a war, and honestly I was too young at the time to care…remember I’m only 16 or else I’m sure I would have protested it. I don’t agree with what he did, as far as I can tell, at all.