"The Times quotes Karpinski as saying she believed military commanders were trying to shift the blame exclusively to her and other reservists and away from intelligence officers still at work in Iraq.

Karpinski says intelligence officers are still at work in Iraq. "We're disposable," she is quoted as saying. "Why would they want the active-duty people to take the blame? They want to put this on the MPs and hope that this thing goes away. Well, it's not going to go away. (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A88B5EC6-9FCC-49D8-9215-99C91D2BD048.htm)"

Karpinski said the special cellblock, known as 1A, was one of about two dozen cellblocks in the large prison complex and was essentially off limits to soldiers who were not part of the interrogations, including virtually all of the military police under her command, the paper said. "

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"Karpinski, who commanded the 800th Military Police Brigade, also described a high-pressure atmosphere that prized successful interrogations. A month before the alleged abuses occurred, she said, a team of military-intelligence officers from the detention facility (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59750-2004May1.html) at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, came to Abu Ghraib last year. "Their main and specific mission was to get the interrogators -- give them new techniques to get more information from detainees," she said."

Do we still have to call them Intelligence-Services???:@@: :@@: :@@:

Ya' say ya' need a hard-copy???????? (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4881156/)

"The pattern of abuse goes beyond Iraq. A recent report by Human Rights Watch described similar treatment of prisoners at Baghram and other U.S.-run detention centers in Afghanistan. The deaths of at least two prisoners in American custody in Afghanistan were officially declared homicides by U.S. military doctors who performed autopsies on the victims."

New-tactics...........just like the old tactics!!! (http://www.oz.net/~vvawai/sw/sw44/Tiger-Cages.html)

"The U.S. built and maintained Tiger Cages at the notorious Con Son Island Prison. On this island, located far out in the South China Sea, was situated the largest South Vietnamese prison for non-combatants, 9,600 prisoners, all with no legal rights.

Tiger cages were deep, dank concrete pits, four by nine feet; each held three to five prisoners. Steel grates covered the top of each pit. Prisoners lay shackled to the floor of these concrete abysses and their guards beat them without mercy. Above each Tiger cage was a bucket of lime; wardens would throw down clouds of it onto the chained prisoners as a form of sanitary torture. After months of internment, prisoners would lose the use of their legs, develop tuberculosis, gangrenous feet and life threatening dysentery.

Throughout the war, U.S. officials claimed the cages did not exist. Frank E. Walton, Director of the U.S. Public Safety Program Vietnam said about Con Son Prison: "This place is more like a Boy Scout Recreational Camp."

Gee Shaman, I missed you while you were gone. Or at least I missed the source of your posts.