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skipper7
05-01-2004, 08:51 PM
For those who might not grasp the potential consequences of the prisoner abuse in Iraq!

ALL BETS ARE OFF!
A WARNING TO FUTURE AMERICAN HOSTAGES
(Courtesy of George W. Bush's and the American News Media)
TvNewsLies.org Editorial - May-2004

Hostage-taking is now a standard weapon in Iraq. That’s a given. At this moment, at least one American soldier and one American contractor have been taken hostage in this insane quagmire.

Hostage-taking has a long and painful history in the Middle East, and you can bet your bottom dollar it will continue. In the past, arduous negotiations, sometimes years in the making, have brought some hostages home. In the past, hostages were sometimes unharmed by their captors. In the past, there were deals and hostages survived. The past, however, is over.

In the light of recent revelations about our horrid abuse of Iraqi prisoners, what are the odds that our missing men or any future American hostages will ever again survive their ordeals?

Americans are not unfamiliar with revenge. The military response to the murders and mutilations of four American security personnel was a devastating attack that killed more than 1,300 people in the Suni city of Fallujah. Women and children and old people died in homes indiscriminately hit by 500 and 1000 pound bombs. This was pay back, big time. US marines went into the city with a vengeance, and their revenge was swift and bloody, if not sweet. But the American wish for retaliation cannot hold a candle to the cultural need to avenge a wrong in the Moslem world.

Avenging a wrong is not a choice among most Moslems, for Islamic culture teaches that it is a duty to take revenge against those who would harm you. Not to avenge an undeserved wrong would bring dishonor to an entire family for a lifetime in a culture where family honor is a driving force. Now consider this: the images of humiliation and abuse that have been released this week throughout Iraq and the entire Moslem world are devastating and unprecedented. These are images of acts committed by those who would bring them democracy and freedom. These are images of acts that will sadden, shame, and enrage. These are images of acts that will be avenged, - if not today, tomorrow, and if not tomorrow, the day after. Time is not a factor, honor is. Remember that...

For the entire article:

http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/iraq_-_all_bets_are_off.html

Travh20
05-01-2004, 10:15 PM
this dude does nothing but spam this stupid site with every posrt he makes, WTF? this should go in the hall of shame

Vilepagan
05-01-2004, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
this dude does nothing but spam this stupid site with every posrt he makes, WTF? this should go in the hall of shame

At least he has something to say Trav...

Travh20
05-01-2004, 10:24 PM
ya, about as much as shaman and all his pointless links, hes nothing more then another parrot

Vilepagan
05-01-2004, 10:34 PM
Well, I could be wrong but I seem to remember that Skipper is affiliated with the TV newslies website and since it's an editorial that was posted it is possible he wrote it.

skipper7
05-01-2004, 10:41 PM
Wouldn't it be nice for a change if Trav could actually come back with an intelligent criticism of the article. I didn't post the site. I posted the article. It's an editorial that I feel is important. He might attempt to disagree....but it's so much less of an intellectual effort to attack the messenger. Uh... oh I forgot the tactic...it's classic.. Check out TVNL and read the editorial "Inferior Right Angles" - about the empty arguments from the right. I do believe Trav posed for it.

Travh20
05-01-2004, 10:47 PM
:rolleyes: another parrot, just as I suspected

WhammyBar
05-01-2004, 10:58 PM
Trav, he's got a point. you always attack the messenger, not the message.

skipper7
05-01-2004, 11:13 PM
Uh.... whammy..... SHE's got a point. I'm a she...not a he. Just want to play it straight.....

The Republican
05-02-2004, 01:22 AM
I find it funny that the Iraqis report every death as a civilian. I guess once an enemy combatant in civilian clothes drops the gun he was just shooting at American troops he becomes a civilian. There have probably been true civilian cassualties but only partially in the numbers being reported.

Travh20
05-02-2004, 01:55 PM
your right, I always attack the messanger, and never mention the message, in fact every post I make I do nothing else, all 3188 of them

WhammyBar
05-02-2004, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by skipper7
Uh.... whammy..... SHE's got a point. I'm a she...not a he. Just want to play it straight.....

sorry, when in doubt I use he, that lovely all inclusive masculine pronoun.

LionelHutz
05-02-2004, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by WhammyBar
sorry, when in doubt I use he, that lovely all inclusive masculine pronoun.

Shhh! Don't tell Pepper!