HANNITY’S LIES ABOUT KERRY, DEBUNKED by Al Franken, with Tim Bradley and Ben Wikler 4/6/2004 at 14:56
About a week ago on Hannity & Colmes, Sean Hannity spewed a litany of lies about John Kerry being a flip-flopper and tax raiser, lies that came directly from the Bush campaign. Oddly, Alan Colmes did not respond. So we will. Hannity said:
Here’s a guy that supported gay marriage, now against it. Here’s a guy that by my count has had six separate different unique positions on the war on Iraq. Here’s a guy that voted for the $87 billion to fund the war before he voted against it. Here’s a guy that was for the Patriot Act. Now against it. No Child Left Behind, for it, now against it. Here’s a guy that supported -- was against the death penalty for terrorists who kill Americans. Now he’s for it. The only thing he seems consistent on is that, throughout the 19 years he was in the Senate, he voted to raise taxes consistently 350 times. What does that tell us about a man that has no core values or principles? Let’s take these one at a time.
Here’s a guy that supported gay marriage, now against it.This is a lie. Kerry’s position has always been consistent on this. I disagree with him, but Kerry has always been against gay marriage. He is for civil unions. What Hannity is doing here is taking Kerry’s vote against the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act and deliberately misrepresenting it as a declaration in favor of gay marriage. But let me read you what Kerry said on the floor of the Senate about that vote.

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kerry gets super mega specific and thinks that that means he didnt lie or flip flop. when an SUV was spotted in his driveway, it wasnt his, it was his wifes, when he got caught lying about throwing his medals over the fence, it wasnt his medals, it was his ribbons, which any veteran knows that the are one in the same set, he voted for sending troops to iraq, but not the money to keep them there to finish the job. that idiot with no imagination named franken wont last long on radio, as his truths are based on lies.

Nice guy,

You mentioned Kerry's flip flop on his throwing medals over the wall, you've mentioned Kerry's excuses about the SUV found in the driveway, then there was Kerry's position(s) on the war in Iraq, the Patriot act flop, the death penalty thing, the tax raising bit and finally gay marriage flap Kerry got into.

The problem is that out of SEVEN Kerry flip flops, you've only been able to defend Kerry against one. You're going to have to a LITTLE better than that, geez!

The thing with Kerry is that he's got the same problems as Al Gore did, actually, he has two problems I'll get to that later. Kerry, like Al Gore, is on a phishing expedition. Kerry doesn't say "this is who I am and here's what I stand for." Kerry, like Gore, is trying a myriad of different opinions and trying to see which ones the public likes the most. IF (and I'm doubting it) Kerry finds a schtick that can get the most votes, that is what he'll claim to have been for all along. Unfortunately, it makes him look irresolute to the American people and he could find himself with only the wacko fringe of the Democrat party voting for him.

Speaking of the wacko fringe, Kerry's other problem is that most of his real views (those he has to hide from the public) are only supported by the extreme left, which there isn't enough of, thankfully, to get him elected. So Kerry's phishing for someting that could get him elected.

Al Franken needs to stick to comedy because he sucks at politics.

Darth Be'lal has it correct. Kerry's true identity is as an ultr-liberal senator and that will not get him elected. In order to win the election he has to try and re-invent himself and to find something that resonates with voters other than the "We hate Bush" crowd. They are not enough to get him elected. So far Hannity's comments on John Kerry have been right on...and he has stuck to the simple facts. Even liberal guests on his shows (TV and Radio) cannot answer and define him...their responses to Sean's questions about Kerry are to bash Bush.

If the democrats had really wanted to beat Bush this year they would not have let John Kerry win the nomination...and he still has not until the convention. An ultra-liberal senator from Mass. with the flip-flopping voting record he has will not get elected to the presidency.

So tell me, Mr. Republican, how can an "ultra-liberal" also be have a "flip-flopping voting record"? If he's "ultra-liberal" he obviously would not be a flip-flopper as well.

My choice of the word "voting" may have been inproper. His voting record is very liberal but he was once pro-life, now he is pro choice...he voted for the war but doesn't support it...he threw his medals, then it was his ribbons, etc.

Borg, what in the hell's your point about somebody can't be a liberal and flip-flop? Will you explain that to me? Clinton did that for 12 years. Forrest Gore was flip flopping all through his 2000 campaign. Lieberman (ugh boy) flip flopped on school choice, abortion (I believe) and a few other things to be palatable to the Democratic ticket in 2000. So if you can explain that little bit about ultra liberals don't flip flop, I would be appreciative.

My point, Darth, is that if one is flip-flopping, one's views are cosntantly changing, correct? But an "ultra-liberal" would have clear-cut views that never waver. Republican's explanation that he once flip-flopped makes sense, but invalidates the claim that he is a flip-flopper. Bush once was an irresponsible drunk, but now he's not. Judging by Republican's response, if Bushites bring up the flip-flopping record, Kerryites are justified in calling Bush a drunk who did not show up for the National Guard.

But on the other hand, a politically middle-of-the-road flip-flopper type person would probably never vote for ultra-liberal or ultra-conservative ideas - they'd stick to the middle. The fact that Kerry has expressed and/or voted for ultra-liberal ideas is pretty indicative of his ultra-liberocity. The flip-flopping just shows that when it doesn't interfere with his personal views he'll jump to the side that's most politically expedient for him. Not that it makes him that different from any other politician.

Originally posted by LionelHutz
But on the other hand, a politically middle-of-the-road flip-flopper type person would probably never vote for ultra-liberal or ultra-conservative ideas - they'd stick to the middle. The fact that Kerry has expressed and/or voted for ultra-liberal ideas is pretty indicative of his ultra-liberocity. The flip-flopping just shows that when it doesn't interfere with his personal views he'll jump to the side that's most politically expedient for him. Not that it makes him that different from any other politician.

Or any other person for that matter....for the majority. That's why it's also so hard to vote. So you chose the one closest to your our personal views. (God please let Bush win) :D

Unfortunately the one closest to my own personal views still isn't that close. I think there should be a new rule - if the majority of people that actually show up to the polls don't pick a candidate for President, then no one will be the President for 4 years. :D