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Darth Be'lal
04-20-2004, 09:52 PM
Here's the link:

uses for pot (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,117541,00.html)


So, do you guys think marijuana should be legalized? I do.

Core
04-20-2004, 09:53 PM
I don't....it would ruined me.

Embyr
04-20-2004, 10:22 PM
Yes.

And tax the hell out of it.

Travh20
04-20-2004, 11:21 PM
LOL, I love how these stoners think that legalizing is so great. they dont realize how good they have it right now. you got a pretty consistant price, if you got a reliable source its just you and your dealer, if your smart and responsible you will never get caught, if you do you get a slap on the wrist. why bring big brother into it? you get taxed, you get found out, you get regulated. screw that, there is no reason to legalize weed. if you are a responsible, casual smoker, you got it made right now. only if oyu got no connection or reliable source would legalizing it be worth it.

Embyr
04-20-2004, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
LOL, I love how these stoners think that legalizing is so great.

I am not a stoner now, nor will I ever be.

Originally posted by Travh20 only if oyu got no connection or reliable source would legalizing it be worth it.

Not true. A lot of money would be brought into this country's economy if marijuana were legalized. And I think it's worth it. Especially if the prices are higher for the nickle and dime or even twamp amounts.

Travh20
04-20-2004, 11:41 PM
legalizing child porn and taxing it may make a lot of money for the country, that doesnt mean its right. look, I just dont think legalizing it is good for anybody. not the government, not the stoners, not the dealers, it helps no one. just leave it to a deal between 2 parties who ahve thier prices and system set up and leave uncle sam out of it. when has the government ever took over anyhting and made it better? asking the bloated us governemtn beauracracy to get involved is asking for trouble in my book.

es347fan
04-21-2004, 05:46 AM
If not legalization, then at least decriminalization. Take the keystone kops out of the picture completely - their attentions are needed elsewhere.

WhammyBar
04-21-2004, 04:53 PM
yeah, we have way toom any people stuck in jail for years from buying ridiculously small amounts of pot. decriminalization wouldnt bother anyone, and it would save us load of money in prison upkeep.

Embyr
04-21-2004, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
legalizing child porn and taxing it may make a lot of money for the country, that doesnt mean its right.

Comparing child porn to smoking marijuana is a terrible example. For one, people who view child porn, more often than not, have some sort of sexual, psychological disorder. More common explanations for viewing child porn (or even engaging in any sort of sexual relation with a child who has not yet reached puberty) are:


the adult cannot adjust to the adult sexual role and has been interested exclusively in children as sex objects since adolescence
they turn to children as sexual objects in response to stress in adult relationships in which they feel inadequate
the adult as a history of unstable social adjustment and look to children as sexual objects during aggressive moods


Smoking pot on the other hand is much like drinking alcohol, smoking tobacco, and eating fattening foods -- it's a choice. People don't choose to smoke pot as a result of some psychological disorder -- although it can cause various psychological effects, such as dependency -- but most often, people do view child porn as a result of a disorder.

There is a difference between legalizing child porn and reinforcing a mental disorder, and legalizing a dangerous behavior (such as smoking) that people choose to perform.

I figure, people are going to choose to smoke or drink, no matter what the law says, so why not use that to our advantage an actually gain something out of it?

*note: most of my information regarding child porn and sexual, psychological disorders was taken from my textbook: "Understanding Psychology: Chapter 12 "Psychological Disorders," Fifth Edition.

sputnik
04-21-2004, 08:32 PM
i dont think it's right that alcohol is legal and marijuana isn't.

Blibblob
04-21-2004, 08:53 PM
LEGALIZE. Nothing wrong with it. One of the most benign drugs on the planet. Most of the bad things about it thrown out about it are generally false, and more are constantly being found wrong through intensive studies every day. That and the fact that I've know far more than one stoner. Although they've been effected by it differently, I'd say none of them has been effected in a really bad way. Well, without adding the poison we call beer into it.

Embyr
04-21-2004, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by Blibblob
LEGALIZE. Nothing wrong with it.

There are always adverse effects when someone does something in abundance. An example of that is eating just veggies. Unless a person eats certain veggies high in protein, their bodies won't get enough of that nutrient our bodies need.

However, in THIS society, drugs which are derived from plants and nature are bad because the people in this country deem them as dangerous. Yet in other countries (some in South America for example and older societies long dead), chewing cocoa leaves is all right and an acceptable practice. It gives strength and allows the working man and woman to work longer.

"Dangerous" and "bad" are relative.

And again, if people are going to smoke regardless, it should be legalized and regulated so this country can gain something from it. Canada has the right idea. Of course, this is just my opinion.

Travh20
04-22-2004, 10:29 AM
why do you insist on bringing the federal government into your lives? no one gets arrested and sent to jail for weed, if they say they do they are lying. only the biggest dealers will get time. small time pushers and users dont do time. I ask again, when has the federal government ever made anything better?

Embyr
04-22-2004, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
why do you insist on bringing the federal government into your lives?

The Federal government is already "in" our lives because they regulate two other "drugs," alcohol and tobacco. So essentially they wouldn't be doing anything new and unknown to US citizens by legalizing marijuana because like I just said, two other "drugs" are already regulated.

Originally posted by Travh20
no one gets arrested and sent to jail for weed, if they say they do they are lying. only the biggest dealers will get time. small time pushers and users dont do time.

You live in CA -- you should be familiar with the three strikes law. ANYTHING can get you thrown into jail if it's illegal. From stealing food from a quickie mart to stealing a car. Additionally, people on parole who are caught with any illegal substances of any amount (or caught doing anything illegal for that matter) are immiediately thrown back into jail because they're not supposed to have them.

You seem a little misinformed when it comes to the efforts of local and national law enforcement agencies and their policies against drugs. Possession can get you in trouble -- it's against the law. Sure, you might be correct in saying that small amounts don't get you thrown in jail. And you're probably right, maybe not the first time. However, repeated possessions WILL get you thrown in jail. Unless you're a cop or know a cop who doesn't do his job by enforcing the law and punishing those people who break it by possessing marijuana, I don't think you can say "no one gets thrown in jail [punished] by possessing small amounts of marijuana."

Travh20
04-22-2004, 01:57 PM
well like I said, if you are smart and responsible in your smoking activities, you will never get caught. I smoked weed daily for 10 years and never had a run in with the law. if you get caught you are being irresponisble, if you get caught again, you are just stupid

Darth Be'lal
04-22-2004, 07:41 PM
Travh,

I don't know if you were referring to me or not when you referred to "stoners" but I've never smoked marijuana.

I've based my opinion on a documentary on the history of how marijuana got to be illegal. I remember something called the La Guardia report that stated that marijuana wasn't addictive nor did it turn people violent (there were a few other things, but I don't remember them).

It's one of those things, if people wish to indulge in grass, let them do so. It's none of my business, nor should it be the govt's business.

I really don't like the idea of taxing marijuana. I'm more than suspicious on how responsible the govt is on spending tax dollars and I don't wisht to give them a new source of revenue.