Several pornography companies have voluntarily agreed to halt
production for at least 60 days after two actors tested
HIV-positive, the Philadelphia Daily News reports (Philadelphia
Daily News, 4/16). Actor Darren James, who had tested negative
during routine testing every three weeks since 1999, this week
tested positive (Hoffmann, New York Post, 4/16). Actress Lara
Roxx, who had worked with James on at least one movie and
previously had tested HIV-negative, also tested positive this
week (Liu et al., Los Angeles Times, 4/16). At least 14
actresses may have been exposed to the virus through onscreen
sex with James, as well as the actresses' 35 subsequent sex
partners (Keating, Reuters/AP/Globe and Mail, 4/16). As a
result, at least 45 actors and actresses are under a voluntary
work quarantine and about 12 companies are adhering to a 60-day
production moratorium until HIV testing is completed, industry
experts said (Jablon, AP/Guardian, 4/16).

OK, sorry I don't know why this is posted in Politics....getting used to a new board. My apologies.

Where would you like it? :)

Some might place it in religion

Religion, eh? Well, I'm just happy my (lack of) religion allows me to view such things. :D

eewwwwww. porn is gross. fake tits are about the nastiest thing I've seen in my life.

I agree with you Whammy.

Originally posted by WhammyBar
eewwwwww. porn is gross. fake tits are about the nastiest thing I've seen in my life.
Depends on how good the surgeon is, really. And not all porn is saline-filled boobs. I'd know, I'm a connoisseur. :D

so about 49 people (14 + 35) could have been exposed to HIV, that's scary and sad. But at least they are trying to contain the problem.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Depends on how good the surgeon is, really. And not all porn is saline-filled boobs. I'd know, I'm a connoisseur. :D

And that's something to be proud of Borg. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Depends on how good the surgeon is, really. And not all porn is saline-filled boobs. I'd know, I'm a connoisseur. :D

the only type of porn I can think of without fake boobs is suicide girls. which I think is the coolest concept, cus it means there are guys out there who go for girls who look like me, instead of porn stars.

Originally posted by WhammyBar
the only type of porn I can think of without fake boobs is suicide girls.

What's that?

Suicide girls!
Hot goth and punk girls lionel!

Why in the hell do most guys like big boobs, that has always bugged me. I frankly thing big breasts is nasty...

Originally posted by Blibblob
Why in the hell do most guys like big boobs, that has always bugged me. I frankly thing big breasts is nasty...
I agree. As a matter of fact, I would probably prefer flat-chested females over ones with boobs the size of 747's.

I agree. As a matter of fact, I would probably prefer flat-chested females over ones with boobs the size of 747's.
Your opinion doesn't matter since you'll be single till death do part you and your computer.

Originally posted by Blibblob
Your opinion doesn't matter since you'll be single till death do part you and your computer.
Not necessarily true. Girl nerds exist. And, as a backup plan, there's always Vile. :D

Not necessarily true. Girl nerds exist. And, as a backup plan, there's always Vile.
And they all are either lesbians or man fearing because of male nerds like you and me. "Do you Quake naked?"

Originally posted by Blibblob
And they all are either lesbians or man fearing because of male nerds like you and me. "Do you Quake naked?"
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I do not.

Damn.

Originally posted by Blibblob
Suicide girls!
Hot goth and punk girls lionel!

I guess it would depend on the goth girl.

Why in the hell do most guys like big boobs, that has always bugged me. I frankly thing big breasts is nasty...

I don't care that much, until you get into the sizes that require two letters to describe. That's a bit much.

lionel, suicide girls is also full of the indie rockers, phsychobillies, and emo girls. all far more attractive than porn stars, all actual normal girls who pose once or twice for a few hundred bucks and never do it again. which is why it's very cool in my mind. female empowerment and all.

Originally posted by WhammyBar
lionel, suicide girls is also full of the indie rockers, phsychobillies, and emo girls. all far more attractive than porn stars, all actual normal girls who pose once or twice for a few hundred bucks and never do it again. which is why it's very cool in my mind. female empowerment and all.

Female empowerment promoted by Playboy.

Nothing independent about that.

Female empowerment shouldn't be based on male ideals.

Originally posted by Pepper
Female empowerment promoted by Playboy.

Nothing independent about that.

Female empowerment shouldn't be based on male ideals.

Oh I like you already.......

Originally posted by Victorian Rose
so about 49 people (14 + 35) could have been exposed to HIV, that's scary and sad. But at least they are trying to contain the problem.

I think it's funny. I should have posted it in Humor
:hahanot:

Pepper, don't you think a woman (Whammy) know more about what's empowering to a woman than a man? I seem to recall that men shouldn't tell women what choices to make. Besides, Hef's daughter is running the Playboy empire - that's pretty empowering, no?

Are you going to teach your daughter that the way to success is to be attractive to men? Is that how you are going to teach empowerment?

Whammy said independent, I see nothing independent about an organization that's promoted by a multi million dollar publishing company. I don't care if Hef's grandmother's running the business does she speak for all women? Running a business and taking one's clothes off are different things no? Why is getting naked for mens consumption empowering?

Originally posted by LionelHutz
Pepper, don't you think a woman (Whammy) know more about what's empowering to a woman than a man? I seem to recall that men shouldn't tell women what choices to make. Besides, Hef's daughter is running the Playboy empire - that's pretty empowering, no?

I just don't know what to say to that....I hang my head. :(

I said that suicide girls was empowering, not playboy. I think that it is becasue it has normal girls on it, celebrating their bodies. that's honestly what I think it is? wouldn't you find it to b a huge ego booost that tons of men (and women) wnat to see you naked? I know I would.

Originally posted by WhammyBar
wouldn't you find it to b a huge ego booost that tons of men (and women) wnat to see you naked? I know I would.
It certainly would for me. Though I can't imagine what mental illness would cause somebody to want to see me naked...masochism, perhaps...

WAHHHHAHHHHH........:hahanot:

Originally posted by Pepper
Are you going to teach your daughter that the way to success is to be attractive to men? Is that how you are going to teach empowerment?

Hell no. She can decide for herself what makes her feel empowered.

does she speak for all women?

Nope. But neither do you. That's my point. You should let the women decide what's empowering.

Why is getting naked for mens consumption empowering?

I didn't say it was. That was Whammy's suggestion.

Is Pepper male or female?

Originally posted by WhammyBar
I said that suicide girls was empowering, not playboy. I think that it is becasue it has normal girls on it, celebrating their bodies. that's honestly what I think it is? wouldn't you find it to b a huge ego booost that tons of men (and women) wnat to see you naked? I know I would.

My point is Playboy promotes suicide girls. You said it was independent, i see nothing independent about a multi-national corporation promoting this form of male entertainment.

If it was a celebration of bodies, why do they get paid? Why must it be based on men's desires? Why can't women find that empowerment on their own? Why do you need men's validation?

I want women to question why this is empowering? I'm not looking to answer it, but I think women need to look a little more critically at their actions. IT may be empowering for one, but its effects are felt by all women.

I wish people were more comfortable about their bodies, I wish people could co-exist and see eachother naked, regardless of size, gender or looks. Right now I see Suicide girls as no different from any other male targeted porn on the web. I wish there could be an outlet, but certainly not in this day in age.

Men have much greater issues on sex, and I see no one advocating for them to get naked and dance around on stage, or in front of a camera.

um..suicide girls isn't all sex. they have some of the models interview bands, and they publish articles, and stuff like that. I think it';s empowering that a real person, not airbrushed, no plastic surgery, and take off her clothes and be comfortable with tons of people seeing that. the girls aren't professional models, they're normal people who do this once. how does playboy promote suicide girls? and personally, I don't think playboy is all that bad. I'm gonna get ragged on for saying this, but I really don't find anything shameful in posing nude. I don't find it oppressive to owmen, becasue they choose to do it. it's all a personal decision. the fact that a woman can do what she wants, and doesn;t need to ask permission from her husband/father is wonderful. less than 100 years ago women couldn't vote, and now we have control over our own bodies. I think that's very empowering.

And besides, who says it just male entertainment? There are other women who like sites like these too. I find nothing wrong with nude modeling done with taste, and there's nothing I find 'trashy' about Suicide Girls at all. I've liked the site for quite a while now.

I've never said it was trashy, I never said that people shouldn't feel shameful in posing nude, I just question why posing nude to male ideals are empowering.

Why choose to do something that is mainly consumed by men? Men have difined what is sexy, men have defined when women can be naked and when they cannot. How is feeding that system empowering? Janet jackson's breast on tv *BAD*, in a strip club? *Good*. Who has set this dynamic up?

Yes women consume this stuff too, but the majority is still consumed by men.

Is getting naked the only way for a woman to feel empowered?

This thread and all of it's contents is completely and utterly asinine and moronic.

(Whammy knows quite a bit about Suicide Girls... makes you wonder what she spends her 14 year old life doing :D)

I've actually never been to the website, but I've read transcripted articles from it. a good freind of mine loves it, and even has a sticker from it on her wallet (yes, girls look at it), and becasue of all the blogs and magazines I read, I nkow about it. they advertise in a magazine I love to death.

Well, I like the website... :D I didn't say that. Then there's always DeviantArt... hmmm, erotic art...

well, now we know what kind of girls blib goes for. do you prefer the goths? or the hipsters? or perhaps the phsycho billies?

Doesn't care much, but leans towards the goths. Blib is a psychotic chainmaille making guy who can't get out of the 12th century, and would live there if they had electricity and a computer.

oh my god, you have to meet a freind of mine. she's obsessed with making chainmaille, and going to sci-fi and renesciance conventions and stuff. she also likes to prance around in fairy wings. there are wayyy too many freaks on this planet.

Pepper I don't care when you get naked and I am a male.

there are wayyy too many freaks on this planet.
And none of them live near me.

Pepper I don't care when you get naked and I am a male.
Hell, let's all get naked! *Turns on the strip club music* Whoo!

Originally posted by Blibblob
Hell, let's all get naked! *Turns on the strip club music* Whoo!
I call the cage! ::runs in the cage and begins stripping, blinding everyone in the process::

Damn you! Fine... I'll just start giving lap dances.

*sits down to enjoy the Borg and Blib show*

:corn:

It was supposed to be a party, not a show!

::continues to dance around in the cage, wondering when Vile will give me money::

I'll give you money to stop and put your clothes back on. That's nasty. Not sexy, like me. *Rubs nipples*

Deal. ::Puts clothes back on::

ew. you guys are so gross. I really domn't wat to think about that.

I assure you, it would be even worse if you knew what we looked like. You might become permanently traumatized, have to see a shrink. Hmm... to frighten you even more, we should send you to a Freudian shrink! MUAHAHAHAHAHA

son't feel so important blib, I've been to a shrink many times before, and never once becasue of you.

I said "If you knew what we looked like", you don't, so, that is obviously why.

The trend in porn industrial has been for several years now getting out of fake boobs large breasts dumb happy blondes, actually. If you go to any random "Free Porn Gallery Directory" online, the popular sections are such ones as Amatuers, Asian, Young & Innocent, Petite, Coed, Natural. Natural breasts, only slightly trimed pubic hair, and fit bodies are the rage of the day now, while audience for traditional big boobs look has been declining to a very low level today. I'm not sure why Whammy and some of you get the impression that men today still love big fake breasts. In fact some porn companies are laying off their big fake boobs starlets fast these days.

Oh, btw, I'm not generally into suicide girls, especially when they look really pale and unfit. :(

You know much about porn, Dio. :D

To the people that are/were putting down porn and the people in it...

I could never do porn but I try not to put down others for their choice of work. If they enjoy it, and aren't hurting innocent people, why should it be a big deal to you?

Never was a tit man. Like nice face and hips.

I remember when porn didn"t include,dogs,pigs,fish,snakes or horses :D

Oh, but the sexy dog. Oh man, get her dog, get her! "LOOK MAN, NAKED GIRL!!" Screw that, dude. Look, naked DOG!

Originally posted by Inimitable
To the people that are/were putting down porn and the people in it...

I could never do porn but I try not to put down others for their choice of work. If they enjoy it, and aren't hurting innocent people, why should it be a big deal to you?

I don't think anyone here is putting down anyone, just why these things could be considered empowering.

Porn does hurt people. There is no such thing as risk free sex. Genetal warts can be transmitted despite the use of a condom. Condoms break, women get pregnant, and as the origional article indicates, also get HIV. The average time a woman does porn is 2 1/2 years, after they leave there is no tracking of her health. The numbers we see in infected women are much greater then the origional article indicates.

Also check out Traci Lords Autobiography where she describes how she was underaged, drugged up and raped during the filming of her videos. When people approach her and mention her films she says it feels like she is being stabbed.

Just because they are smiling in the photo doesn't mean they are enjoying it.

Originally posted by Pepper
I don't think anyone here is putting down anyone, just why these things could be considered empowering.I think you need to go re-read some of the posts in this thread; There were people putting down those that do it.


Originally posted by Pepper
Porn does hurt people. There is no such thing as risk free sex. Genetal warts can be transmitted despite the use of a condom. Condoms break, women get pregnant, and as the origional article indicates, also get HIV. The average time a woman does porn is 2 1/2 years, after they leave there is no tracking of her health. The numbers we see in infected women are much greater then the origional article indicates.
Exactly, there is no such thing as risk-free sex...It isn't limited to porn. If someone wants to risk their OWN life and have unprotected sex, that is their decision, and if someone else wants to risk their life and have unprotected sex with someone they don't know for sure is disease free, that's THEIR decision. It is never safe to have unprotected sex.

Porn doesn't hurt innocent people; If someone chooses to have unprotected sex they are responsible for the consequences whether the person was honest to them or not about their sexual history...You have unprotected sex, you take a risk…It doesn’t matter who it is, it is always a risk. There are many people out there that have never been in porn that have diseases, say they don't, and have sex with many people. Porn itself doesn't hurt anyone that doesn't make the decision that they will risk getting a disease.

People are responsible for their own actions. If someone wants to risk their life or health that is their decision; They aren't hurting anyone that doesn't also make the decision to risk their life; It is no ones right to say they can't risk their own life. It is actually that behavior that costs people their lives...The more accepting people are of other's right to make their own choices, the less they have to hide, and the safer they can be about it.

Not many professional porn stars use condoms in their movies. In most cases the porn stars make a decision to take the risk that their partners in movies haven’t contracted a STD since they were last tested. Most female porn stars protect against pregnancy by using birth control and they take the risk that their birth control pills won’t fail.


Originally posted by Pepper
Also check out Traci Lords Autobiography where she describes how she was underaged, drugged up and raped during the filming of her videos. When people approach her and mention her films she says it feels like she is being stabbed.
That is not a logical argument against porn. That is no better than saying sex is wrong because some people rape other's. It is not at all a normal circumstance, and even if it had been… It would not be an argument against porn, but a valid argument against forcing people to make porn.


Originally posted by Pepper
Just because they are smiling in the photo doesn't mean they are enjoying it. Then they can quit the business. If they are forced to do it, the above applies. Just because some people don't like doing the work but do it anyway doesn't mean others should be denied the right to participate in it if they wish.


So to summarize, the government should not take over people’s right to make their own decisions and to take their own risks; As long as they are not directly hurting innocent people, it is no one’s business but their own what they do. If someone has unprotected sex with someone who they didn’t know has a sexual transmitted disease that is not the porn businesses’ fault; It is the fault of the people who had unprotected sex.

I do no think the porn industry can be painted with such a broad brush. Employers are responsible for the health and saftey of their workers. Ever pass a contruction site? Wear a helmet right? AIDS, Herpes, Ghonoria, Genetal warts, Clamidia are not fun diseases to contract. The risk is always greater for the woman.

Should the sexual gratification of men have such a horrible cost? Should women be subjected to such terrible diseases so a guy can masturbate for 7 minutes (the average time a male watches porn). There are bigger questions and problems surrounding pornography and the exploitation of human bodies.

I was there with you not too long ago. I used to think porn was cool, and it was empowering for women. AS I learned more about the effect it has on the performers and the people who consume it, I felt this was something I can no longer participate in.

I don't have problems with sexuality and erotic imagery, I just question why we need these things in our lives. Human sexuality should be based on love and understanding, not degridating imagry of thrusting hips and facial cum shots. We as a culture rely too much on visuals, sex is much much more then that.

In the early hours of July 11th, 1994, porn actress Shannon Wilsey, a.k.a Savannah, put a gun to her head and pulled the trigger.

Friends say she was upset about crashing her Corvette into a fence earlier that evening– she thought she’d broken her nose and would have to cancel an upcoming stripping appearance in New York. She was also worried about not getting paid for a recent strip show in Las Vegas. Then again, she was also high on heroin and cocaine when she shot herself, so it’s fair to say her judgment was a bit off.

The stripping engagements were an important part of Savannah's life, because she could earn as much as $5,000 in one night. This money was needed to finance her $120 per day heroin habit and an even more expensive cocaine habit.

Savannah was born in California, and was 23 when she killed herself.

source: Rolling Stone magazine and Internet

"No one held a gun to their heads and said 'Do it,'" remains a facile ploy to avoid confronting the issue. Freedom of choice is illusion. How many working-class men would choose (a career in) boxing in a world of truly free choices, in which they might just as easily become brain surgeons? And how many working-class women would choose to be pornographic film stars, or prostitutes, if they could just as easily become Supreme Court justices?

-Michael Kimmel, in Men Confront Pornography.

THere is more here
http://www.oneangrygirl.net/antiporn.html

Originally posted by Pepper
I do no think the porn industry can be painted with such a broad brush. Employers are responsible for the health and saftey of their workers. Ever pass a contruction site? Wear a helmet right? AIDS, Herpes, Ghonoria, Genetal warts, Clamidia are not fun diseases to contract. The risk is always greater for the woman. Employers are responsible for their employee’s health but so are the employees. If I get a job that is high risk than that is my decision. If I go into it knowing it is high risk, then I share responsibility for anything that might happen to me. It would be great if condoms or more frequent testing was the norm in porn but as long as it isn’t, the people who enter the business are responsible for the risk they take.


Originally posted by Pepper
Should the sexual gratification of men have such a horrible cost? Should women be subjected to such terrible diseases so a guy can masturbate for 7 minutes (the average time a male watches porn). There are bigger questions and problems surrounding pornography and the exploitation of human bodies. Sexual gratification of men? There are a lot of women who watch porn. It isn’t a men degrading women thing. Also, if a woman chooses to do something that is degrading to her, she is degrading herself.

Women in porn are not the only ones who risk getting a disease. The women and men are not “subjected” to diseases; The word “subjected” implies they don’t have a choice not to do it.

If you want to see porn as exploitation of the human body that is your right and I don’t necessary disagree but it isn’t up to you, me, or anyone else to be able to tell other’s what they can do with their body. What if the general public thought that sex for any reason other than reproduction was wrong regardless if you were married to your sexual partner? Do you think it would be good to have a law regarding that? Everyone has different opinions on what is right and wrong and as long as people aren’t forcing anything on anybody, everyone should be able to make their only choices.


Originally posted by Pepper
I was there with you not too long ago. I used to think porn was cool, and it was empowering for women. AS I learned more about the effect it has on the performers and the people who consume it, I felt this was something I can no longer participate in.I think you have entirely missed my point. I never said I thought porn was cool, empowering, or even if I watch it. As I said above, people should be able to make their own choices, and it isn’t right for anyone to impose their beliefs on others. Sharing and debating differences of opinions is great, but forcing someone to act in a way you’d like when they’d only be hurting (matter of opinion) themselves isn’t right. It isn’t your right to make personal decisions for others even if you think porn is morally wrong.


Originally posted by Pepper
I don't have problems with sexuality and erotic imagery, I just question why we need these things in our lives. Human sexuality should be based on love and understanding, not degridating imagry of thrusting hips and facial cum shots. We as a culture rely too much on visuals, sex is much much more then that.I agree for the most part. My whole argument simply lies with it being wrong to make moral choices for others. When society does that, it is just one step closer to taking away your right to make some decision you think you should be able to. Everyone makes personal moral decisions daily that some people would deem immoral; Moral decisions should be personal not regulated by law.


Originally posted by Pepper

[b]In the early hours of July 11th, 1994, porn actress Shannon Wilsey, a.k.a Savannah, put a gun to her head and pulled the trigger...THere is more here
http://www.oneangrygirl.net/antiporn.html Again, that incident is not a good argument against porn. There are many people in many different professions that have killed themselves over their jobs, does that make those jobs automatically wrong? That girl had depression or some other mental illness.

If my boyfriend said I was controlling and broke up with me, and I killed myself, would that mean it was his fault? If I worked at McDonalds and hated my job so much, that one day I woke up to go to work and decided to kill myself so I wouldn’t have to go, would that mean the McDonalds was to blame? If I was a model for swimwear, got into a car accident where I was badly burnt and my modeling agency no longer wanted me, so I killed myself, would the modeling agency be to blame for me killing myself? No, they wouldn’t; They wouldn’t be to blame, my mental instability would be.

Originally posted by Pepper
Freedom of choice is illusion. How many working-class men would choose (a career in) boxing in a world of truly free choices, in which they might just as easily become brain surgeons? And how many working-class women would choose to be pornographic film stars, or prostitutes, if they could just as easily become Supreme Court justices?

I don't get the point of these questions. How could becoming a Supreme Court justice ever be as easy as becoming a prostitute? You can't present them as equivalent choices when they're simply not. If you want to even have a chance at becoming a justice, you have to work your ass off. Some people choose not to work that hard. Some people (actually, the vast majority of people) aren't capable of being a justice. As a result, we choose other options. Some people choose the easiest option (prostitution/porn). I refuse to feel guilty for the choices other people make. People aren't trapped into porn, they make the conscious decision to take that route. I don't disagree that some awful things happen to them once they begin that lifestyle, but again, that's not my fault any more than it's my fault that Curt Cobain got involved with drugs. Freedom of choice is not an illusion. The will of some people to do the right thing for themselves is the illusion.

Very well said.

Originally posted by LionelHutz
As a result, we choose other options. Some people choose the easiest option (prostitution/porn). I refuse to feel guilty for the choices other people make. People aren't trapped into porn, they make the conscious decision to take that route.

Look I don't claim to be an expert on this, but to say people aren't trapped in porn and people choose porn because it's easy? just isn't true.

We are all influenced by outside forces, some are much more coersive then others. The average age a person entering prostitution is 13. Are you saying a 13 year old can make a conscious choice about their sexuality? How good was your sex ed as a child?

Would you like to sleep with 35 partners a day? Do you think the abuse that many of these women suffer is easy? Do you think living with HIV Aids is easy? Read into it more. Read the women's stories. You will see it is not all "Pretty Woman" and other hollywood galmor view of sex workers.

No one lives in a bubble, we are all influenced by our surroundings, if you don't believe that you are only fooling yourself.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Inimitable
It would be great if condoms or more frequent testing was the norm in porn but as long as it isn?t, the people who enter the business are responsible for the risk they take.

Ok first big problem with the porn industry. People will get hurt when you don't offer protection


Sexual gratification of men? There are a lot of women who watch porn. It isn?t a men degrading women thing. Also, if a woman chooses to do something that is degrading to her, she is degrading herself.

What's the ratio from women to men watching porn? 60-40? 70-30? 90-10? It isn't as much as you think. What type of porn are men watching, and do you think it's very different from what women watch?

Have you ever been offered money for sex? Degradation of any woman effects all women. I have never been myself,(surprise I'm a guy) but I know a lot of women, who are not at all workers in the sex industry tell me men have offered them money for sexual favors. And some of these instances were at a very young age.

Women in porn are not the only ones who risk getting a disease. The women and men are not ?subjected? to diseases; The word ?subjected? implies they don?t have a choice not to do it. well if men don't like watching porn with actors who wear condoms, then it doesn't really give them much choice.

If you want to see porn as exploitation of the human body that is your right and I don?t necessary disagree but it isn?t up to you, me, or anyone else to be able to tell other?s what they can do with their body.

I'm pretty sure rape porn is pretty immoral. I'm pretty sure we can all agree that sexual exploitation of children is pretty immoral. There is violence, severe sexual violence that is protected by this ideal of free speech.

What if the general public thought that sex for any reason other than reproduction was wrong regardless if you were married to your sexual partner? Do you think it would be good to have a law regarding that? Everyone has different opinions on what is right and wrong and as long as people aren?t forcing anything on anybody, everyone should be able to make their only choices.

Individual sexuality between consenting adults is one thing, but relationship changes when money is introduced.

As I said above, people should be able to make their own choices, and it isn?t right for anyone to impose their beliefs on others. Sharing and debating differences of opinions is great, but forcing someone to act in a way you?d like when they?d only be hurting (matter of opinion) themselves isn?t right. It isn?t your right to make personal decisions for others even if you think porn is morally wrong.

It isn't about morality. I have no problems with people being sexually active. I do believe the environment of pornography, as it stands today in this country, can be very harmful to women. Money changes everything.

Originally posted by LionelHutz
I don't get the point of these questions. How could becoming a Supreme Court justice ever be as easy as becoming a prostitute? You can't present them as equivalent choices when they're simply not.

I think that's the point. If both were equal, where do you think women would go?

Now you nasty little boys you,stop talking about women with fake breasts,and lordy me a woman with boobs the size of a 747 you better stop !!!! Now boys my breast are xxxxlarge,and my dareeare is the size of a double wide load baby !!!!! It's big, it's wide, it's juicey,it's huge,it's just what the boys love baby !!!!

FYI to TMW.....who cares?

Did anyone catch Primetime last night about the porn star BellaDonna. She didn't look to happy about being a porn star, although she has won several honorable adult entertainment awards. Jeez. She said she was "getting out" and was all crying about how she was molested young. It's so sad. Her mom was saying that children her daughter's age should be having a good time in college instead she is filming video and being slapped around by guys. She was talking about how she charges extra for DE.....Diane Sawyer was like "DE?" And she was like " Yeah, you know double entry?" Basically BellaDonna cried about her life. Didn't really seem like she was enjoying her awards very much. She did mention that the money leads your life and controls you. The drugs get you through it she said. Something to be very proud of huh Inimitable?

I'm kind of torn about this whole topic.

On one hand, if people choose to make a living performing sexual encounters for entertainment purposes, that's their choice and who am I to say it's wrong? They might love the job. They may have no other legitimate skills that will pay as well, who knows? And porn doesn't really impact me personally in any way, unless I go seeking it out (which I don't; b-o-r-i-n-g) so I have no real problem with people making or watching porn (so long as we're talking about adults; kiddie porn is RIGHT OUT).

But then, it's no secret that the sex trade (I'm lumping porn, stripping, prostitution, phone sex, etc. together) is generally a bit skeevy and often dangerous. It can also be extremely demeaning and perverse. I don't think the sex business is generally filled with extremely happy, healthy, well-adjusted, productive members of society (although I'm sure there are some exceptions). And then there are those who are dragged into it against their will - that probably happens more than we know, and is totally unacceptable.

So, weighing those two things against each other - a person's right to make a living however they wish, so long as it doesn't harm others, and the fact that the sex trade is filled with so many negatives - I guess I have to give porn and the sex trade a general thumbs down.

However, Nevada's prostitution programs are something I actually approve of - the business is regulated and there are rules and fines and regular checks and reports to be made, and so on. The danger is vastly minimized and the girls are safe and healthy. Unfortunately, porn is not regulated and I don't think there is any way to make it so, so I guess I'd outlaw it if I could.

You must understand that there is a big difference between the obligations of a "porn star" and a girl who goes for some casual casting several times and never does it again. Indie porns are taking over now because of the internet, and most of the girls in it are one-time deals. Many are college students who are not stupid and not even poor, who just do it for kicks but know quite well not to get too involved. Being a professional porn star is very burdensome, and most of these problems mentioned here should be directed toward professional porn. But, like I said, in the near future, indie will take over.

I do it because I have a killer body most people would die for...the money's not so bad and there are some great people in the business...modeling and stripping that is...
and you don't have to have sex with every man around to do well...

As far as the porn industry..if you get the right agent and stick to your guns...you can go far...and protect yourself from the diseases out there...they have a really good health plan and do watch out for the girls...

This outbreak all started because they wanted to shoot a double anal unprotected...

And you better leave Savannah out of it...!!!!!

I do feel bad for Laura Coxx...:(

Imp, I'm wondering. With all due respect, if your daughter decided this is something she wanted to do would you help her enter this business. Would you train her and give her tips....like what is the best position so the camera can get the best shot, or blow job techniques?

Originally posted by Core
Imp, I'm wondering. With all due respect, if your daughter decided this is something she wanted to do would you help her enter this business. Would you train her and give her tips....like what is the best position so the camera can get the best shot, or blow job techniques?

If I had a daughter and that's what she wanted to do..yes...I would find a good agent for her...
I am a model and have stripped...I am not a porn star..but I have some great friends that are and probly would send her to them for tips on blow jobs...

Porn stars are just people trying to earn money just like the rest of us.... Their job is risky but with the strict testing of those involved with the porn industry that risk can be reduced... Unfortunately sometimes even these controls aren't enough...

I would tell her to be safe at all times but also let her know there are risks involved..just like any other job...

As far as posing and positions..I'd hope she'd be all natural and take after her momma...:D