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Violet Lightbea
04-05-2004, 02:18 AM
global warming is a massive piece of disinformation, driven by researchers and others who have financial, academic and political reasons for shoving another slice of The Grand Lie.

An article published this month in Nature, which is the most respected scientific journal in the world, quite rightly contradicts the global warming information that the media feeds us. Remember, the object of the media is to feed us constant fear – drip, drip, drip.

Ecologists like David Suzuki gets paid to make documentaries of dramatic scenes of icebergs falling into the sea, which they claim is evidence of the lie they are selling. Research published in Nature magazine shows that the temperature of the Antarctic has actually FALLEN every decade for the last three decades by 0.7 of a degree Celsius – the Antarctic is getting colder not hotter.

Dr. P. Doran at the University of Illinois at Chicago presented the research. So the idea that the ice caps will melt and the world will be flooded is complete drivel. That is not to say the Kyoto Accord to limit greenhouse gasses is worthless, for anything that reduces toxins in the air is a good thing. It’s a great shame that America refuses to accept the limitations on toxic gas emissions imposed on other countries by the agreement.

I’m sure they will come round in the end. If there is a real ecological threat to this planet, it’s the pollution of our water as the military-industrial machine pumps heavy metals and chemicals into the rivers and seas.

The release of estrogen-like hormones in the water as a result of the birth pill is dramatically effecting reproduction in animals, fish, and humans. If you want to survive never drink the government water. If you own your own home, you may wish to invest in a tank that collects rainwater, which if you pass it through a filter and then through reverse osmosis becomes the cleanest supply of water available to you.

The only exception being the small amounts of water you can purify through distillation. There are now a number of fairly inexpensive distillation machines on the market, which will generate a few pints of absolutely pure water each day.

Global warming is a nonstarter, its part of The Grand Lie. Meanwhile, the truth of dirty water is hidden from people by the media. It is the main problem we face

Leper
04-05-2004, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by Violet Lightbea
global warming is a massive piece of disinformation, driven by researchers and others who have financial, academic and political reasons for shoving another slice of The Grand Lie.

An article published this month in Nature, which is the most respected scientific journal in the world, quite rightly contradicts the global warming information that the media feeds us. Remember, the object of the media is to feed us constant fear – drip, drip, drip.

Ecologists like David Suzuki gets paid to make documentaries of dramatic scenes of icebergs falling into the sea, which they claim is evidence of the lie they are selling. Research published in Nature magazine shows that the temperature of the Antarctic has actually FALLEN every decade for the last three decades by 0.7 of a degree Celsius – the Antarctic is getting colder not hotter.

Dr. P. Doran at the University of Illinois at Chicago presented the research. So the idea that the ice caps will melt and the world will be flooded is complete drivel. That is not to say the Kyoto Accord to limit greenhouse gasses is worthless, for anything that reduces toxins in the air is a good thing. It’s a great shame that America refuses to accept the limitations on toxic gas emissions imposed on other countries by the agreement.

I’m sure they will come round in the end. If there is a real ecological threat to this planet, it’s the pollution of our water as the military-industrial machine pumps heavy metals and chemicals into the rivers and seas.

The release of estrogen-like hormones in the water as a result of the birth pill is dramatically effecting reproduction in animals, fish, and humans. If you want to survive never drink the government water. If you own your own home, you may wish to invest in a tank that collects rainwater, which if you pass it through a filter and then through reverse osmosis becomes the cleanest supply of water available to you.

The only exception being the small amounts of water you can purify through distillation. There are now a number of fairly inexpensive distillation machines on the market, which will generate a few pints of absolutely pure water each day.

Global warming is a nonstarter, its part of The Grand Lie. Meanwhile, the truth of dirty water is hidden from people by the media. It is the main problem we face

You think someone has refuted all the evidence pointing to global warming by citing some multi-parametered statistic, which says the antarctic has gotten colder over a 3-decade span? When you present evidence that the entire planet is getting colder since the industrial revolution, then you have a case. The advent of global warming doesn't mean that regions of the planet are incapable of cold spells, it just means such spells will be less frequent and less intense.

And yes, it's a fact that glaciers are melting/receding. Here are several cites for you:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/10/17/glacier.melt.ap/
http://www.questconnect.org/ak_glaciers_melting.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1507646.stm

And no, something that is a "greenhouse gas" is not necessarily a "toxin." CO2 is a good example of such.

Please don't speak authoratatively about something you clearly know so little about.

WindWip
04-07-2004, 08:12 PM
If we can agree that:

1. It is a bad thing is temperatures continually rise
2. CO2 is a greenhouse gas
3. The amounts of CO2 in the atmosphere are rising

Then global warming exists. Just try to refute one of those.

LionelHutz
04-07-2004, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by WindWip
If we can agree that:

1. It is a bad thing is temperatures continually rise
2. CO2 is a greenhouse gas
3. The amounts of CO2 in the atmosphere are rising

Then global warming exists. Just try to refute one of those.

Is that supposed to be a logical string that leads to your conclusion, or just three random statements? Because 1, 2, and 3 don't prove your conclusion.

1) Is it? No one would say it was a bad thing when global temperatures raised after the last ice age. Temperatures increased pretty consistently about 500 years ago. The argument is that the higher temperatures led to great harvests and directly resulted in the enlightenment.
2) Since we've defined CO2 as a greenhouse gas, I don't see how that can be refuted.
3) I believe that's the trend, yes.

WindWip
04-08-2004, 12:42 PM
OK, it may not look like they work together, but let me string them together.

What I meant by #1 was that if temperatures continually rise, without stopping. It would get to a state where it would be unlivable.

The meaning behind a greenhouse gas is that it traps heat in. It lets the heat from the sun go through to the earth, but when the light hits the earth it changes into infrared radiation. Infrared radiation does not go through CO2 easily and 60% of the radiation is reflected back at the earth.

So if the levels of C02 continually rise, then if there were no other effects, the temperature of the planet would continually rise until it reached it's cutoff point (600-700 degrees F I believe)