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trunkks
03-22-2004, 05:01 PM
Paul Martin say he will call election. many people say Liberal party will not win and they are telling Martin to wait longer. they say perhaps longer the more people will forget about 100 million dollars nobody can find. do you think if betteh for Canada should get different gouvernement perhaps one that dont steal so much money?

mevam
03-22-2004, 07:08 PM
I'm not so much sick with the Liberals as I am with Jean Chretien. He's the one who started the sponsorship mess with his ill gotten cabinet appointments, and he's the one who left the whole scandal for Martin to deal with. There doesn't seem to be any other party in Canada worth voting for, The Conservative Party has Steven Harper who is a crazy extremist Christian that wants to destroy health care in Canada and start building up our useless military. Perhaps the Green Party might be a fair choice, at least better than the NDP whose slogan should be "Poor People deserve to get everything" with their crazed tax proposals. I think Martin will make a good Prime Minister, although if the election is after my birthday, I will be voting in favour of a minority government so that the Liberals have less power. It'll be good to send the greedy chumps a message.

astrapol2
03-23-2004, 06:06 AM
Could you explain us forigners how the elction system works in Canada ? Are there two mammoth parties like in US or UK, or a bigger amount of medium sized parties like in France ? Are the Green powerful ?

mevam
03-23-2004, 07:47 PM
^^^
For the past 13 years, it's been more of a one party system in Canada - The Liberal Party of Canada has been ruling with a majority for that long. But before that it was pretty much a two-party system with the Conservatives running against the Liberals. The Conservatives have been running under many different names for the past few years, and have just finished merging with other right wing parties to create the new Conservative Party of Canada, which will hopefully offer some competition against the Liberals in the next election this year. The Greens really have few seats ever in parliament in Canada, and they only garner about 1-5% of the popular vote nationally, which isn't much at all considering in Canada the ruling party is not elected by the popular vote, but by the election of party nominees in what are called "ridings" or subdivisions of the nation where a member of parliament presides over.

astrapol2
03-24-2004, 03:41 AM
Thanks. Are the "Liberals" and "Conservative" very similar to their US counterparts ?

mevam
03-24-2004, 05:45 PM
^^^ Thankfully, no.

Canada is a lot more liberal that the U.S., and up north it is not a dirty word to call someone a "Liberal" as it is in the states.

The Conservative Party of Canada is as liberal as the Democratic Party of the U.S., if you look at what their policies advocate, which is a perfect representation of how the definition of liberal or conservative in one country can be entirely different in another. The Liberal Party of Canada is generally fairly leftwing, although there are the few odd leaders who resemble conservatives in their politics (like Paul Martin). With legalized abortion, no death penalty, soon to be legal gay marriages and decriminalized marijuana, along with a strong sense of multiculturalism, Canada is certainly one of the most liberal nations in the world. There's another party I'm not sure if I mentioned called the NDP, or the New Democratic Party which is a centre sitting party. They don't get many votes overall, but they were an official party in Canada last I heard.

Travh20
03-24-2004, 05:58 PM
oh good, amybe all the liberals in america can move there and live in liberal paradise

HaVoK
03-24-2004, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
oh good, amybe all the liberals in america can move there and live in liberal paradise We can only wish that were so.

Vilepagan
03-24-2004, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by HaVoK
We can only wish that were so.

Oh c'mon HaVok... you'd miss me wouldn't you?

Travh20
03-24-2004, 07:01 PM
no one is saying you couldnt still post on the forum pagan

HaVoK
03-24-2004, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Vilepagan
Oh c'mon HaVok... you'd miss me wouldn't you? Yes Vile, there would have to be exceptions and you are too level headed to be lumped in just the "liberal" category anyway.

Travh20
03-24-2004, 07:20 PM
ya, pagans no liberal :rolleyes:

LionelHutz
03-24-2004, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by mevam
up north it is not a dirty word to call someone a "Liberal" as it is in the states.

It is? What am I supposed to call them? And don't say progressives because I refuse to call them that.

astrapol2
03-25-2004, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by mevam

Canada is a lot more liberal that the U.S., and up north it is not a dirty word to call someone a "Liberal" as it is in the states.


A funny thing is that in France we call "liberals" the right-wing people, who support "laissez faire" economy and globalization.
In the mouth of a leftwing french militant, "Liberal" is also a dirty word !

mevam
03-25-2004, 10:10 PM
In the mouth of a leftwing french militant, "Liberal" is also a dirty word !

Well, the French seem to be exceptions to everything. lol Just kidding I love the French, Canada wouldn't be the leftwing nation it is today if it weren't for the early French settlers and their free ideas. I'm glad that the whole separatism issue has died down recently since the Charest was elected in Quebec.

oh good, amybe all the liberals in america can move there and live in liberal paradise

Did I mention the marijuana? lol The liberals are certainly welcome here, we'll have a great time acting all hippie-like and opposing killing people (cuz that's sooooo wrong of anyone to think).