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es347fan
03-18-2004, 11:56 AM
DAYTON, Tenn. - The county that was the site of the Scopes "Monkey Trial" over the teaching of evolution is asking lawmakers to amend state law so the county can charge homosexuals with crimes against nature


The Rhea County commissioners approved the request 8-0 Tuesday.


Commissioner J.C. Fugate, who introduced the measure, also asked the county attorney to find a way to enact an ordinance banning homosexuals from living in the county.


"We need to keep them out of here," Fugate said.


The vote was denounced by Matt Nevels, president of the Chattanooga chapter of Parents, Family and Friends of Lesbians and Gays.


"That is the most farfetched idea put forth by any kind of public official," Nevels said. "I'm outraged."


Last year, the U.S. Supreme Court (news - web sites) struck down Texas' sodomy laws as a violation of adults' privacy.


Rhea County is one of the most conservative counties in Tennessee. It holds an annual festival commemorating the 1925 trial at which John T. Scopes was convicted of teaching evolution. The verdict was thrown out on a technicality. The trial became the subject of the play and movie "Inherit the Wind."


In 2002, a federal judge ruled unconstitutional the teaching of a Bible class in the public schools.

saycricket
03-18-2004, 01:12 PM
Yet ANOTHER step toward modern day salem witch trials.

Beware -- soon we'll all have to submit to cameras or microchips in our bedrooms to prove we are NOT gay.

Can we eject this County from the Nation?

Assuming, for a moment, that we are indeed talking about Rural Tennessee -- does the movie "Deliverance" ring any bells?
If these narrow minded SOBs want to make homosexuality a crime against nature, what about incest? It's obvious there are not enough genes in their pool.

Why is it okay for one person's beliefs to be considered GOSPEL while the rest of us sit idly by? Who do they think they are?

Everyone must DEMAND equal protection and rights under the law -- wait! I thought "everyone" already had equal protection and rights??

Vilepagan
03-18-2004, 01:58 PM
They would have more luck and be better served by making stupidity illegal. No doubt the locals believe their tax dollars are being well spent on this asinine stuff.

Overdose
03-18-2004, 02:54 PM
This makes me want to listen to the anti-gay-marriage supporters.

:rolleyes:

saycricket
03-18-2004, 04:49 PM
ANTI gay marriage SUPPORTERS?

:confused:

Travh20
03-18-2004, 04:54 PM
its almost like someone went out and started marrying dudes to each other or something

WhammyBar
03-18-2004, 05:34 PM
grrrr. that was angering, to say the least. our country has bbecome seriously overrun with fundie christians, and it's getting to be a little bit scary.

Overdose
03-18-2004, 05:58 PM
Yes the Anti (people who do not support gay marriage) Gay Marriage (The Issue), Supporters (the people who don't support gay marriage)

The anti-gay-marriage-supporters

Supporters who are anti gay marriage.

Travh20
03-18-2004, 06:02 PM
we got hard lefties marrying men to each other and hard righties trying to outlaw homosexuality. theyy are both wrong

Overdose
03-18-2004, 06:34 PM
Ummmm, wow. No, I'm going to be immature here, and just say that the hard conservatives are wrong...because a lot of people I know that are for gay marriage, and are Christian, are in the middle of the political spectrum.

Their reasons-

Marriage is a right (Equal rights to all)

Marriage is wrong in the Bible (for gays), but they understand that the Bible is not in our government and our Government is equal, and fair...to anyone.

:)

WhammyBar
03-18-2004, 08:47 PM
Trav, it's not as if anyone's being forced to marry. every intelligent and reasonable person I nkow thinks that gay partnerships deserve the same rights as straight ones, including some deeply religious people. I think the point is that the issue isn't based on personal beleifs, it's based on the idea that everyone in this country deserves to be treated equally.

Travh20
03-18-2004, 10:55 PM
dont even start this up again, we agreed to disagree, thats about as far as we are going to get

pna43
03-18-2004, 11:01 PM
I think every gay in America should plan to vacation and live in Dayton, Tenn. And all show up at the same. ''We're here. We're queer. We want to be hillbillies.''

pna43
03-18-2004, 11:04 PM
What would Andy, Barney and Gomer say? And why were they together soooo much of the time? And why was Opie always hanging around grown men? ''Ooooowww!! Barney. It hurts when you put it in there!!'' ''Shazam!!''

Overdose
03-18-2004, 11:29 PM
Trav...come on. I haven't heard your sad reasons against gay marriage. I'd love to rip them apart!

Wouldn't everyone else? ;)

Travh20
03-19-2004, 01:26 AM
you couldnt rip apart a wet paper bag

Overdose
03-20-2004, 12:24 AM
lol....scared? :rolleyes:

HaVoK
03-20-2004, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by pna43
What would Andy, Barney and Gomer say? And why were they together soooo much of the time? And why was Opie always hanging around grown men? ''Ooooowww!! Barney. It hurts when you put it in there!!'' ''Shazam!!'' What's up with the homosexual/pedophilic fantasies about The Andy Griffith show?

Vilepagan
03-21-2004, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by Overdose
Trav...come on. I haven't heard your sad reasons against gay marriage. I'd love to rip them apart!

Wouldn't everyone else? ;)

We've already heard Trav's sad reasons...:D

If you want to read them they're in several different threads...Gay Marriage in Mass 2, et.al.

saycricket
03-22-2004, 10:05 AM
Yes *yawn* Trav's reasons are everywhere. "Sad" is an understatement.

"SCARY" is more like it.

Travh20
03-22-2004, 11:10 AM
LOL, whatever you do, dont disagree with the gay "rights" crowd, or you will be attacked mercilessly, just look at what happened to me when I dare speak out against the gay agenda.

BorgHunter
03-22-2004, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
LOL, whatever you do, dont disagree with the gay "rights" crowd, or you will be attacked mercilessly, just look at what happened to me when I dare speak out against the gay agenda.
I don't know what else you expected. You think we're just going to not reply to someone we disagree with on a Politics board? Honestly!

DrewM
03-22-2004, 03:43 PM
There goes that 'gay agenda' thing again. What is that - Pagan, Trav, anybody in the 'know' gay-wise care to explain it?

Travh20
03-22-2004, 05:44 PM
its simple, the gay agenda is to make homosexual sex as american as apple pie and grandmas cookies.

BorgHunter
03-22-2004, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
its simple, the gay agenda is to make homosexual sex as american as apple pie and grandmas cookies.
Ah. It's a hypothetical argument used to belittle gay rights in defense of your own agenda, am I right?

Travh20
03-22-2004, 06:09 PM
obviously thats how you will see it. unfortunatly, the ratio of pro gay marriage to anti gay marriage in real life does not match the ratio here in this forum. so, though I may be in the minority here, I am not in real life. so my agenda is the agenda of the majority of americans.

WhammyBar
03-22-2004, 06:26 PM
Trav, what is this thing you have with "agendas"? first of all, I know plenty of gay people, and they have varying opinions, and have never mentioned any so called "gay agenda" to me. There are even gay people who are opposed to gay marraige, and becasue they wnat just they opposite of what you think. They don't want all aspects of homosexual culture to be mainstream, they enjoy having different expectations of them, and don't wnat to participate in the lifestyle of every other American.
I would also like to point out that there is no american agenda. you must be intelligent and observant enough to realixe that if there is such a varying degree of opinions on this board, then it must be even more diverse out in the real world. not every american agrees, there is not one single thing that every single perosn in this country is working to acheive. We don't stand united, it's not us against them, quite frankly, more often, it's us against us. you need to deal with the fact that people can't be pigeonholed, and that we think for ourselves, not according to the "group" we belong to.

M&Mdelite
03-22-2004, 09:37 PM
People are so used to doing what they want to in those little one-horse Tennessee towns until they probably thought they could actually get rid of Gays. If they don't want to be in the same town as Gays, then they should be the ones to leave. Whether people approve of Gays or not, they still got to live among them. It's probably a Hillbilly town.

Travh20
03-23-2004, 12:01 PM
LOL I dotn agree with outright outlawing homosexuals, becasue I dont care if they are what htey are, is theri choice to live their lives how they want to, but I find it funny how the gay rights crowd reacted to this story, with shock and horror. at the same time the shrug off those same feelings from people that dont agree with gay marriage. they all claim to be so open minded, yet refuse to understand why a town would do this, while clubbing anyone who doesnt want gay marriage over the head with outrageous comaprisons to the civil rights movement and accusations of hate and fear. its really just very dumb

WhammyBar
03-23-2004, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
LOL I dotn agree with outright outlawing homosexuals, becasue I dont care if they are what htey are, is theri choice to live their lives how they want to, but I find it funny how the gay rights crowd reacted to this story, with shock and horror. at the same time the shrug off those same feelings from people that dont agree with gay marriage. they all claim to be so open minded, yet refuse to understand why a town would do this, while clubbing anyone who doesnt want gay marriage over the head with outrageous comaprisons to the civil rights movement and accusations of hate and fear. its really just very dumb

I understand fully why these poeple did what they did, and I still don't like it. just becasue I nkow hwy they are ignorant and biased doesn't mean I am any less disgusted by it. same thing with people who don't wnat gay marraige. I get it, but I don't agree with it.

Travh20
03-23-2004, 10:51 PM
so you think that conservatives are incapable of having such complex thoughts as you about people they disagree with?

WhammyBar
03-23-2004, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
so you think that conservatives are incapable of having such complex thoughts as you about people they disagree with?

no, people who think that banning homosexuals from their county will accomplish anything obviously aren't using any sort of complex thought, and neither are people who think that their personal religious beliefs should determine what rights other people receive.

Travh20
03-23-2004, 11:05 PM
thats not what I was saying, I was asking if you think conservatives are incapable of understanding why people do certain things but at the same time diagree with them.

WhammyBar
03-25-2004, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
thats not what I was saying, I was asking if you think conservatives are incapable of understanding why people do certain things but at the same time diagree with them.

no, of course not.

Al-Fredo
03-29-2004, 07:45 AM
Why would anyone care if people are gay or not? It's their own lives! If anyone should interfere, it should be people close to the homosexuals, NOT be the state! Bunch of intolerent people sitting in high positions, trying to ban what THEY find immoral. The south in a nutshell....

Vilepagan
03-29-2004, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by DrewM
There goes that 'gay agenda' thing again. What is that - Pagan, Trav, anybody in the 'know' gay-wise care to explain it?

The gay agenda is a top secret list of goals that all gay people and liberals must agree to work towards when they join GONAD, Gay Organizations Networking Against Democracy. This group works to infiltrate gay people into all aspects of "normal" american society, where we will recruit children into the homosexual lifestyle, undermine the fabric of the "american way of life", and see to it that all straight men dress better and have well coiffed hairstyles. :rolleyes:

Seriously, the term "gay agenda" is just a term used by people who have negative feelings towards gay people in an attempt to convince people who aren't very smart that gay people are to be hated and feared. The closest analogy I can think of is the hunt for "communists" in the 50's. Since you can't tell by looking at someone if they are gay or communist, it's easy to convince people that they are lurking behind every bush and rock, waiting to spring forth and perpetrate some outrage. Anyone who believes that there is a "gay agenda" is just not using very many brain cells.

I think it also stems from the natural inclination to lump all gay people together in a group. There seems to be some idea that all gay people agree in matters of politics, policy and pretty much everything else. Untrue. Gay people disagree with each other as much as straight people do. There are some issues that you will find most gay people in agreement on, but that stems from some common aspects of experience more than anything else.

So, in reality there is no "gay agenda' anywhere but in the small minds of some people who are either spreading anti-gay propaganda, or who have fallen prey to these ridiculous ideas.

I have to ask Drew, and no offense Trav, but what makes you think Trav is "in the know" about gay issues? Of the people who post on this board I would have to say by what he has posted in the past, that his ideas about gay people are some of the most misinformed I have seen in awhile.

Travh20
03-29-2004, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Al-Fredo
Why would anyone care if people are gay or not? It's their own lives! If anyone should interfere, it should be people close to the homosexuals, NOT be the state! Bunch of intolerent people sitting in high positions, trying to ban what THEY find immoral. The south in a nutshell....

who said anything about banning homosexuals? I have said it a million times, I dont give two rats eyelashes if someone is gay. I dont care. let em plug each other until the sun comes down. I just dont agree with them getting married. so back off.

Al-Fredo
03-29-2004, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
who said anything about banning homosexuals? I have said it a million times, I dont give two rats eyelashes if someone is gay. I dont care. let em plug each other until the sun comes down. I just dont agree with them getting married. so back off.

I dont really care what you opinion is, since I was not referring to you. I was referring to the original post:

DAYTON, Tenn. - The county that was the site of the Scopes "Monkey Trial" over the teaching of evolution is asking lawmakers to amend state law so the county can charge homosexuals with crimes against nature.
The Rhea County commissioners approved the request 8-0 Tuesday.


Commissioner J.C. Fugate, who introduced the measure, also asked the county attorney to find a way to enact an ordinance banning homosexuals from living in the county.


"We need to keep them out of here," Fugate said.

Hence my previous post. You back off.

WhammyBar
03-29-2004, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by Vilepagan

Gay people disagree with each other as much as straight people do.

you should see the catfights between some of the gay guys in my school. they're vicious :D