No es verdad, death has been cheated many times. Just look at that Steve Irwin guy!

Ok I do admit that someday I will 'snuff it', so to speak, but I don't think gender will just disappear like we were all fools to care in the first place. Since all we know is life on earth, I'd say it is worth thinking about rather than accepting that 'all will be revealed' at the end of it.

That was in response to Dan, btw :) Box Infinity sounds good, but if I'm going to live forever, I just might drop the box thing... :cool:

Dan is right there is no sex after death. The purpose of sex is to create offspring. Oh yah and to tell "Mother Nature" that you are a winner, at least if you are a guy. :) The men who live the longest and look the youngest are men that have sex on a regular bases (you can pick them out of a crowd). Probably women too. When you look at a couple and one looks young and the other one doesn't, then somebody isn't getting sexual release. Normally. If you are getting sexual release on a regular bases then "Mother Nature" assumes that you are the fittest and she don't go after you like she does others. Mother Nature is set up to feret out the weak. Whoever designed this system set it up that way. What is funny is that you can fool Mother Nature. :) Box 19 is right, when it comes to "Physical Immortallity" relative to this reality and not be a yogi master, sex is the key! It just is. acaveyogi

Originally posted by creetwins
whoah wait up........Vile did you just try to pick up the new guy?
:corn: :corn: :corn: :corn: :corn:
:drinktoth

Who me?:eek:

Hey Vilepagan I like your new avatar! And why didn't you try to pick me up? I was a new guy. Sheesh! acaveyogi

I guess I was raised in the woods. Granny always told me that being homosexual was like going against the grain, and you were born that way. She had always said that it was a cross that some had to carry. She had said that each of us in life has a cross somewhere along the way that we have to carry, and that homosexuals are born with that cross right away.

Being the Christian that she is, she had told me that she thinks that a homosexual has every right to go to heaven just like the next, because Jesus died for everyone and their sins.

She says that there is nothing wrong with being a homosexual, but that they should try to refrain from activity, and refraining from their urges are their cross that they must carry.

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My feeling on the issue: I honestly don't have any feelings on the issue because I have my own cross that I have to carry around. I know that I do not believe in judging. I can not say whether I feel it is a disease or not.. I know that I do not like to be judged by anyone.

I have not been in those shoes. I do know what it is like to go into a store and be snickered at for being handicapped. I am me.... it is just who I am.... I have been angry at people for judging me for one reason or the other my whole entire life.

To me...whether it is a disease or not for me a hetrosexual to decide. I do not like it when people decide that because I am in my thirties and need a wheelchair that there is nothing wrong with me and I am lazy or something......(I don't know actually what they are thinking).....but I do know that people are so darn cruel sometimes.... I guess it is the snickers and whispers that give it away.

Some homosexuals may think that it is a cross they have to carry?!? Some may think it is the best thing since sliced bread?!? Some people who have cancer are at peace with themselves, some aren't. Some hetrosexuals are satisfied some aren't?

We should all just worry about our selves I think. We need pill to be made for people who are rude! Especially some W**-***t shoppers!!!! Seriously though, there are more important things for people to be worried about than trying to figure out who is hetro or homo sexual, and then judging them for their beliefs.


Right now, I have cancer. I am trying to get disability. I have some judge who has never met me before deciding whether or not I can work. It does not matter how many times I get denied from them people.....I know....I can't work. It is MY body. No one can possibly know how another feels unless they have been in their shoes.

Sure.....Um, Ah, Yes Disability Judge..so and so...sure..WOW.. you have had two heart attacks and can still work......Whoop..tee..dooo dooo. Try telling that to another person trying to get Disability who has had only one heart attack and had done hard physical labor for thirty years...

Each persons situation is different.. ...All that I do no...is that life ain't fair.

-lilvoyce

Originally posted by lilvoyce
I guess I was raised in the woods. Granny always told me that being homosexual was like going against the grain, and you were born that way. She had always said that it was a cross that some had to carry. She had said that each of us in life has a cross somewhere along the way that we have to carry, and that homosexuals are born with that cross right away.

Being the Christian that she is, she had told me that she thinks that a homosexual has every right to go to heaven just like the next, because Jesus died for everyone and their sins.

She says that there is nothing wrong with being a homosexual, but that they should try to refrain from activity, and refraining from their urges are their cross that they must carry.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

My feeling on the issue: I honestly don't have any feelings on the issue because I have my own cross that I have to carry around. I know that I do not believe in judging. I can not say whether I feel it is a disease or not.. I know that I do not like to be judged by anyone.

I have not been in those shoes. I do know what it is like to go into a store and be snickered at for being handicapped. I am me.... it is just who I am.... I have been angry at people for judging me for one reason or the other my whole entire life.

To me...whether it is a disease or not for me a hetrosexual to decide. I do not like it when people decide that because I am in my thirties and need a wheelchair that there is nothing wrong with me and I am lazy or something......(I don't know actually what they are thinking).....but I do know that people are so darn cruel sometimes.... I guess it is the snickers and whispers that give it away.

Some homosexuals may think that it is a cross they have to carry?!? Some may think it is the best thing since sliced bread?!? Some people who have cancer are at peace with themselves, some aren't. Some hetrosexuals are satisfied some aren't?

We should all just worry about our selves I think. We need pill to be made for people who are rude! Especially some W**-***t shoppers!!!! Seriously though, there are more important things for people to be worried about than trying to figure out who is hetro or homo sexual, and then judging them for their beliefs.


Right now, I have cancer. I am trying to get disability. I have some judge who has never met me before deciding whether or not I can work. It does not matter how many times I get denied from them people.....I know....I can't work. It is MY body. No one can possibly know how another feels unless they have been in their shoes.

Sure.....Um, Ah, Yes Disability Judge..so and so...sure..WOW.. you have had two heart attacks and can still work......Whoop..tee..dooo dooo. Try telling that to another person trying to get Disability who has had only one heart attack and had done hard physical labor for thirty years...

Each persons situation is different.. ...All that I do no...is that life ain't fair.

-lilvoyce

Hmmm...good luck with that claim. It's pretty easy to be found capable of sedentary work, which typically exists in the local economy in significant numbers.

I don't know how I can work and still take morphine every three hours as prescribed by my doctor? Is that even legal for me to be working and being on such meds?!? It shouldn't be I think!

I really, really, really, wish I could work!!! IT would be a lot easier for me to work so that we don't lose everything that we have worked for the past ten years for, than it is to sit here and fight for disability. If I could work I would. This is the fricken pits.

Originally posted by lilvoyce
I don't know how I can work and still take morphine every three hours as prescribed by my doctor? Is that even legal for me to be working and being on such meds?!? It shouldn't be I think!

I really, really, really, wish I could work!!! IT would be a lot easier for me to work so that we don't lose everything that we have worked for the past ten years for, than it is to sit here and fight for disability. If I could work I would. This is the fricken pits.
Your story is very sad. It pisses me off to no end to see the lazy leeches collecting their welfare checks every month because they're too damned lazy to get a job, and you get nothing and you have a legitimate reason for being out of work. Good luck with your fight.

Lilvoyce, there's something I just don't understand: Why is a JUDGE deciding on wether or not you are able to work (due to your medical condition) instead of a DOCTOR?

good observtion, noel...

Originally posted by Noel Vallys
Lilvoyce, there's something I just don't understand: Why is a JUDGE deciding on wether or not you are able to work (due to your medical condition) instead of a DOCTOR?


Because whether someone qualifies for disability or not is a legal question. And of course, you can find doctors with different opinions (Government doctor disagreeing w/ personal doctor is a common occurence), in which case it is the judge who decides who is most reliable.

wow, good luck lilvoyce, I really hope this all works out for you.

Originally posted by Noel Vallys
Lilvoyce, there's something I just don't understand: Why is a JUDGE deciding on wether or not you are able to work (due to your medical condition) instead of a DOCTOR?

That is a very good question...if you can figure that one out please let me know. I have four doctors who signed statements saying that I am disabled...

So they send me to a disability psychiatrist. I get in there and the woman asks:

1. Where does your mother work?

2. Where does your father work?

3. Do you get along with your parents?

4. Has your father ever abused you?

5. What day of the week is it?

6. Who is the president?

7. Did your parents get along?

8. How long has your mother been remarried?


She didn't ask anything about my Cancer, how I am coping, what I am doing for the pain, what type of activities I do? NOTHING!


Then it turns out that the Disability place paid her a crap load of money to see me and they did not even submit her information when they considered me the first time!

You would have thought they would have sent me to a doctor!!! Furthermore, I wish they would. Dammit, I wish I could walk and go back to work!!!!!!!!! This is killing me.

why would they psychoanalyze you to figure out if you had a physical disability? bureacracy is soooooo stupid.

I am not sure...I am on Effexor that is probably why. I have to take anti-depressants due to surgery. I had my thyroid removed. When you take that away people have a tendency to be depressed because of the lack of thyroid harmones.

I wish I knew what was going on. The disability did determine that I was disabled but they claimed that they were "not sure" if it was going to last longer than a year......

So they did not say that i was not disabled. They just denied me instead because they weren't sure about a time frame. Well I am here to tell you that the year time frame has came and went...and they are still procrastinating...and I still can't walk..

Any suggestions?? I am at a loss.