I am overwhelmed with joy that John Kerry is going to be the man running against Bush. Mainly because when all of the truth comes out about his past, his voting record, and his unwillingness to stick to a position, Bush will easily win. Wait till this summer and you will see and hear the truth.

www.notokerry.com

it doesnt matter what he has done in his actual time in the US Senate, it only matters that he was in vietnam in a boat. that seems to be the most important qualification of all time now. I still dont see how commanding a 4 or 5 man boat makes you ready to be the president, but that seems to be the Dems big selling point of this guy. I ahvent really heard any policy of his yet, besides your typical "I will fight every day for you...blah blah blah" campaign rhetoric. anyway, Dop and NEM have convinced me that Bush has no chance, so there really is no reason to even vote. LOL

Shouldn't this at the very least go in the "advertise your site" section or something?

Originally posted by notokerry.com
I am overwhelmed with joy that John Kerry is going to be the man running against Bush. Mainly because when all of the truth comes out about his past, his voting record, and his unwillingness to stick to a position, Bush will easily win. Wait till this summer and you will see and hear the truth.
Yeah.......Lil' Dumbya's got quite the track-record of honor, integrity & character!! (http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_5089.shtml) :p

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ah yes, just like when all the truth about Bush's DUI, and coke-snorting, and below-average grades and how Daddy got him into the Air National Guard (where he went AWOL) all prevented people for voting for Bush, so I suspect all of Kerry's horrible past (one mistress, who has admitted she was not his mistress) will be his undoing.

Uh huh. Suuuure.

If you think that replacing bush with kerry is going to do anyhtning to solve americas problems think again. just like the song says 'meet the new boss, same as the old boss"

It appears Kerry's secret service protection was authorized this morning. He's gonna need it.

Wellstone, Baxter, Kennedy Jr., Hatfield, Pearl, Scarborough's intern .....

Dop

why does he need secret servie protection, he probably has better body guards through his billionaire wife. common man my ass.

For once you have a good point Trav

Dop

Who was it that said Bush would take the military vote?

LMAO.

Kerry and his merry band of brothers (http://www.alternet.org/members/story.html?StoryID=17888)

Originally posted by Lungdop Philing
Wellstone, Baxter, Kennedy Jr., Hatfield, Pearl, Scarborough's intern .....

Oh please. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Besides, they're in charge of the Secret Service. If they wanted him dead how hard would it be to get the SS out of the way?

Im curious why people still stick with Bush after all he has done.
Is it because you are afraid to change your opinion after supporting him so much in the beginning, or is it because he is republican? From what Ive seen, Kerry is not a bad candidate.
Let me put in the valid dirt first;
1. He voted for the patriot act
2. He agreed with the war when Bush had all but told the nation there was proof of WMD

Ok, now Bush;
1. He put forth the patriot act
2. He initiated the war on Iraq under false premises
3. He put forth the clean air act. A lie in the name of the bill
4. He put forth the clean water act. A lie in the name of the bill
5. He has already proven that he cannot handle the economy
6. His tax reform was presented as a break for the lower income, but in fact was a break for the higher income. Yet another lie.

Notice how I am not bringing up his grades, his national guard duty or other slander. I am bringing up what he has done as president and how he has failed our country.

Sen. John Kerry's voting record has demonstrated his lack of commitment to building up our nation's defenses.
-From your notokerry.com site.
To the ignorant fool who wrote that article and to you for trusting an extremist rightwing media source, we don't need more money in defense.
Here is the military budget for the highest 15 countries:
(Notice how our budget is more than all others listed, combined)

United States 399.1 (in billions)
Russia 65.0
China 47.0
Japan 42.6
United Kingdom 38.4
France 29.5
Germany 24.9
Saudi Arabia 21.3
Italy 19.4
India 15.6
South Korea 14.1
Brazil 10.7
Taiwan 10.7
Israel 10.6

WindWip

Not everyone is sticking with him ...
Bush's reselection is in more trouble than meets the eye. He is in real danger of losing his xtian-fundy vote -- not that they will vote dem but that they will just stay home. They are in a apoplectic fit over several issues (I call them lies).

1) Bush is pandering to the NEA which the xtians see as a cover organization for gays.

2) Bush allowed judge Pryor to rule on the Judge Moore case in AL. WTF was he thinking? LMAO on this one.

3) Bush says he will not use abortion as a litmus test for judges. Man-o-man -- this one is a no-brainer. Xtian-fundies live for one issue and only one issue -- abortion. Just can't stop LMAO.

4) He is being abandoned by the military due to not defending himself on the AWOL charges. "I made up my time later" just isn't going to fly with the troops who are risking their lives everyday.

Basically bush has to make a hard right turn or lose a serious number of votes from his base. Of course, this right turn will cause him the middle ground on several issues so he's screwed either way.

And the no-brainer is ... he has to dump cheney and replace him with a woman. Probably Liddy Dole.

Dop

It's encouraging reading that :)

But there are still very strong backers for Bush, not many of them, but they are very dedicated. Take Travh for example, he would follow Bush no matter the heat on him or the slander. It's like me arguing with a minister about the existence of God.
The difference is that I understand the reasons why people will believe in God, what I can't understand is why people still believe in Bush.

I love how dop is so sure who I am going to vote for. just becasue kerry was in a war doesnt mean all veterans are going to vote for him. I am not, none of the veterans I know are. believe it or not most veterans ask more of a candidate than being a veteran. as I have said before if that were true than WW2 hero Bob Dole would have crushed Clinton the draft dodger. it all sound very tough and like a silver bullet, but after the military issue is discussed in the first minute and a half, its over, it has no bearing on the future of the country. his actual voting record during his service in the senate will be much more important than the fact he chased a gook down and shot him in the back.

You're being contridicted by the pundits Trav. They say Kerry will take the military vote. Maybe not your vote, but the military vote nonetheless.

Dop

we will see dop. I have never had much faith in the pundits. and frankley its not like you are the most objective source on the board. I am sure you seek out stories that defend your position, and I am sure you pass up stories that contradict what you say. I know I have not MET any veterans who are all hopped up for Kerry. the only ones I have encountered are on this board.

Bush must have been reading my post above where I mention Pryor ruled on Moore and it pissed off the fundies.

Just a couple of hours ago he appointed Pryor to the 11th circuit by recess appointment. BWAhahahahahahaha ... now do you see what I mean by bush having to turn hard right or lose his fundy base? And he had better do it soon like in pronto, ahora mismo.

Man you can't make up this shit.

Dop

yes dop you are always right, in fact, why arent you in charge of something? a president does what presidents do and you say you called it. lets see, I am predicting that there will be a presidential race, and some white rich guy will win it.

Travh, I have not heard you argee with criticisms towards Bush at all, or criticize him yourself. Do you believe that not one of the things he did was a mistake or just wrong?

Another thing, I have not heard why you are so opposed to Kerry. If it is because he is vying for the president against your man? Why not take a step back and look at his ability to help our country?

windwip, if you would search the board you will see I have criticized bush amny time, I have even started a thread to grade the president a while back, and I gave him a B- and listed what I thought he has done wrong. I am against Kerry becasue he is nothing more than a liberal democrat hiding behind his military experience to giv ethe illusion he is something he is not. his voting record speaks for itself. He flip flops on issues like a wind sock in a hurricaine,a nd he is a hypocrit who rails against special interest while sucking up SI money like a dry sponge. He will raise taxes, perpetuate the welfare state, become a lapdog of the UN. I think its pretty clear.

heh, alright. I can see our differences clearly now. I always agreed with the idea of the UN, and I think that we need taxes to pay for the debt we are now in. I will agree that he did change his mind on many occations, but to say only that would be over-simplifying the situation. But you are incorrect with his stance on anti-SI. He said that the government is not working for large oil companies and some other companies. He did not say anything about the types of companies who donated to him. What you said was distorted from the truth.
His voting record is not a blow against him, the military does need to be decreased, as I pointed out earlier.

I suppose I missed those critiques of Bush. With the introduction of a few extremists, I am not surprized that you have been a little more cautious with how you talk of who you are supporting.

these guys got an answer for everything dont they? I prove him wrong yet there is a reason for it. LOL

Originally posted by Lungdop Philing
Bush must have been reading my post above where I mention Pryor ruled on Moore and it pissed off the fundies.

Just a couple of hours ago he appointed Pryor to the 11th circuit by recess appointment. BWAhahahahahahaha ... now do you see what I mean by bush having to turn hard right or lose his fundy base? And he had better do it soon like in pronto, ahora mismo.

Man you can't make up this shit.

Dop

Not to worry, the most ignorant and evil man ever to occupy the White House will be on "permanent" recess in 9 months.:D

Clintons going on vacation?

Originally posted by Travh20
If you think that replacing bush with kerry is going to do anyhtning to solve americas problems think again. just like the song says 'meet the new boss, same as the old boss"
Yeah.......whatta drag that we'll be burdened with that awful pro$perity-thing (http://www.kellysite.net/taxes.html).........again!! :D

Originally posted by Travh20
why does he need secret servie protection, he probably has better body guards through his billionaire wife. common man my ass.
I've always thought the same, about Lil' Dumbya!! (http://www.tarpley.net/bush1.htm) :rolleyes:

How fortunate, for him, the U.S. tax-payers have managed to finance the Bush-family's new compound in Crawford! They really do need such compensation, after all their years in the oil-busine.......er, public-service!! :(

Originally posted by Lungdop Philing
WindWip

Not everyone is sticking with him ...
Bush's reselection is in more trouble than meets the eye. He is in real danger of losing his xtian-fundy vote -- not that they will vote dem but that they will just stay home. They are in a apoplectic fit over several issues (I call them lies).
THE LIST (http://www.centerforamericanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?cid=%7BE9245FE4-9A2B-43C7-A521-5D6FF2E06E03%7D&bin_id=%7B08BC0FDA-AC3C-4625-8033-FA742B9535F2%7D) goes on-and-on-and-on........:confused:

Originally posted by Travh20
believe it or not most veterans ask more of a candidate than being a veteran.
Awwwwww, jeeeeeezzzzzzzz.......

You make this toooooooooooooooo easy!!!!!!! (http://www.votewithavengeance.com/kerry.html) :D

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont even like bush that much, but if him winning sends these idiots off the deep end for good I pray that he wins. you better check out your window shaman, I think the paddy wagon is pulling into your driveway

Originally posted by Travh20
these guys got an answer for everything dont they? I prove him wrong yet there is a reason for it. LOL

What part are you refering to where you proved me wrong?

If you are talking about your critiquing of Bush, you should realize that I asked a question rather than making a statement.