Now then, I do see our hardcore Christian population is basically nonexistant, and most of the posters in the religion form agree that the Bible is not valid. But I would like to see some of your reasons as to why. To know how many other people here know of when the bible was written, this topic would be more interesting if we hadn't scared all of the orthodoxish christians away.

Now then, try and answer some of these questions, to see how much you know of the bible's history.

Jesus is who?(son of god, prophet, what?)

The bible was written when?

How much of the bible was stolen from local religions?:D

Who was the bible written by?

How many gospels were there?


Can anybody think of any more?

{1}Depends some say God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are all one, same being, just different things at a certain time. Some say Jesus was the son and will sit next to God?????

{2}The question should not be when the Bible was written, but how many times, and different ways can it be interpreted?

1) Jesus is who?(son of god, prophet, what?)

Jesus is the son of God, in the flesh, only begotton son.

2) The bible was written when?

The Pentateuch & Old Testament 1400BC - 450BC.
The New Testament - last half of the first century AD

3) How much of the bible was stolen from local religions?
None

4) Who was the bible written by?
Divine inspiration of God.

5) How many gospels were there?
4

Clynnm;

I would research both {3}&{4}????

I would recomend researching numbers 2 through 5. Since you are incorrect for all of them. One is opinion.

Here, let me explain actually. Number two, the old testament, we have no idea when those portions were written, my guess is that they were written at the same time as new testament, based off of word of mouth superstitions. The new testament was compiled by Constintine's empire, the majority of the gospels were written between the mid of the first century into the mid of the second century. Fourty(That is the number I remember) were looked at for being put in the bible, four made it. The others were burned, destroyed, and followers were hunted down and murdered. Some were saved and burried, and that is where the Dead Sea Scrolls come from.

Number three, uh, you can research this one, there are far too many for me to name. A few were that an Indian god son was met by people baring gifts of gold frankinscense and mihr. Another one from a local religion had a god being born in a stable, etc.

Four... uh, they were people, they guess that the diciples wrote them, but aren't sure.

Number five was answered with number 2.

yes, bliblob is the definative authority on the bible on all the earth. you ahd better rethink everything you have learned all throughout your life from people who have actually spent their netire lives researching the bible.

the bible is what you make it. if you take it all litterally, you are a zeleot

if you believe in teh morals and values it teachs through storys, andthat it teachs basic life living guidelines you are religious

if you thinkit is all a bunch of BS created out of thin air to control a vast serf population you have been in college to long and are a secularist

if you think it is a piece of shit, you are a hard core commie scum who probalby also hates america but claims to be the very definition of partriotism

Originally posted by Travh20
if you thinkit is all a bunch of BS created out of thin air to control a vast serf population you have been in college to long and are a secularist

if you think it is a piece of shit, you are a hard core commie scum who probalby also hates america but claims to be the very definition of partriotism
What's the difference between it being a "bunch of BS" and a "piece of shit"?

And how does thinking the Bible is a "piece of shit" automatically make one a Commie?

Because I am a commie, and apparently I think the bible is a piece of shit?

First of all, when did Trav start posting in religion? Second, how is trav so sure I don't know what I'm talking about? Third, what the hell does the majority of the his post say?

Originally posted by Travh20


if you thinkit is all a bunch of BS created out of thin air to control a vast serf population you have been in college to long and are a secularist

if you think it is a piece of shit, you are a hard core commie scum who probalby also hates america but claims to be the very definition of partriotism



the reason I think the bible is BS and am totally sure that it's only a tool of power, as is organized religion in genral, is from studying it. my perspective on the bible comes from learning about it for many many years, literally sicne I was old enough to understand basic stories. I was raised in a jewsih school, I know the old testament extreemly well, and the reason I think what I do about religion is because of my intimacy and familiarity with it. I am a socialist. I'm proud of it, it's a long standing tradition in my family to be outspoken politcally and to be rpoud of our socialist beelifs and upbrignings. I am patriotic because I think the U.s> has the [otential to be an incredible place to live, and I think that potential should be realized. just becasue my idea of a great place to live is different from yours does not make it any less legitimate.

Trav's mind;

:D The good:
Republicans, Bush, guns, God, patriots

:mad: The bad and evil people:
Liberals, mindless liberals, radical liberals, stupid liberals, retarted liberals, Saddam, Osama, anti-war activists, terrorists, hard core commie scum, dumbass leftists, democrats, Kerry, Clinton, Al Gore, radical environmentalists, prochoice supporters aka "baby killers", spelign hwores, ppl who argue with him, Shaman, NEM, everybody, and of course me

Did I get it right? Have fun making mine :D

Whammy, though socialism is a nice idea in theory, there are many problems with the application of it. To start, corruption is a major downfall of the system and socialism only embraces it. Socialism also leads to a lazy society since the workers have the idea that they will not see the benefits of their work so why should they work hard.

I guess I hit a little to close to the mark fo rhtese boys, I got ripped a new one.

Originally posted by WhammyBar
the reason I think the bible is BS and am totally sure that it's only a tool of power, as is organized religion in genral, is from studying it. my perspective on the bible comes from learning about it for many many years, literally sicne I was old enough to understand basic stories. Ummmm....you do know you are 14, right? You havent even been alive many years yet.

So forgive me if i find your expressed expertise in this subject doubtful, to say the least.

Originally posted by HaVoK
Ummmm....you do know you are 14, right? You havent even been alive many years yet.

So forgive me if i find your expressed expertise in this subject doubtful, to say the least.


by many years I meant pretty much my whole life, which is a long time for me. just becasue I'm 14 doesn;t mean that I don't know the bible. I might not be old and wise, or have the same perspective as older people, but I do have lots of experience with it, and I have spent an awful lot of time stufying the old testament. please don't disqualify my intelligence or knowledge based only on my age.

Originally posted by WindWip
Whammy, though socialism is a nice idea in theory, there are many problems with the application of it. To start, corruption is a major downfall of the system and socialism only embraces it. Socialism also leads to a lazy society since the workers have the idea that they will not see the benefits of their work so why should they work hard.


I nkow, but I'm still idealsitic about it, and draw a lot of my values from it.

Whammy, though socialism is a nice idea in theory, there are many problems with the application of it. To start, corruption is a major downfall of the system and socialism only embraces it. Socialism also leads to a lazy society since the workers have the idea that they will not see the benefits of their work so why should they work hard.
Oh, you are so wrong it's not even funny. Don't mention socialism not working around a communist, or at least be prepared for a beating!

I guess I hit a little to close to the mark fo rhtese boys, I got ripped a new one.
? You're an idiot, I win. :D

you win? well i guess congratulations are in order, the Hero of the Soviet Union medal will be delivered to your flat in 5-7 working days comrade :rolleyes:

BTW communism has failed miserably and still does. Russia failed miserably, same with every other communist society that has existed on an international scale (basically, any country that other countries will bother to trade with).

China as a whole has an increasing GDP of around 10-12%. The one small sect of China where capitalism is allowed and overseas investments in capitalist societies accounts for the entire increase in this. The rest of the country, i.e. the state run companies, have a decreasing GDP. Therefore the capitalistic sect must have a tremendous income, not only supporting itself, but bringing the ENTIRE country's GDP out of the red.

Originally posted by WindWip
BTW communism has failed miserably and still does. Russia failed miserably, same with every other communist society that has existed on an international scale (basically, any country that other countries will bother to trade with).
Cuba has not yet "failed miserably" (though it may well one day).

CIA World Factbook
Cubans attempt to depart the island and enter the US using homemade rafts, alien smugglers, direct flights, or falsified visas; some 2,500 Cubans took to the Straits of Florida in 2002
The president (Castro) is both the chief of state and head of government, practically a dictator. The country has greater expenditures than revenues.
revenues: $14.9 billion
expenditures: $15.6 billion
The average Cuban's standard of living remains at a lower level than before the severe economic depression of the early 1990s
I would call this somewhat of a failure

Ill start a thread in world politics-

Lalalalala, petty rhetorical bullshit from an American. You're wrong, on one account. They weren't communist. The correct term would be "State Socialist". Which basically defines itself out to a buisness in which the workers can't leave. That doesn't follow the principles Marx, Engles, Baukinn, etc. set out at all. And as such, doesn't follow the same reasons of failure. By the very principles of socialism or communism, it can't fail. How can an organized workers state fail? You have the loyalty of every worker, and are cracking the faith of exploited workers in other countries. It's a workers state, thus you have the masses, and it is organized, therefore it wouldn't fall to invaders.