Ok, so we have determined that God knows all and and is all powerful.

If you are omniscent and omnipotent then you have the capacity to know everything that is happening at a specific point, and therefore you can predict everything that is to come. In short, God knows everything that will happen.

Assuming that, then I have a couple questions;

1. Why did God have to rest on the seventh day?

2. Why were there any instances where God was displeased or pleased?

3. Why is there a war between Heaven and Hell?

4. Why does Hell exist if God is displeased by it?
Why was Hell created if God did not wish it?

Originally posted by WindWip
If you are omniscent and omnipotent then you have the capacity to know everything that is happening at a specific point, and therefore you can predict everything that is to come.

Right. God can do those things but perhaps chooses not to.

WindWip, the easiest answer would of course be: God doesn't exist... but anyways...

1. Why did God have to rest on the seventh day?
To look down upon his creation pleased. That is mostly what it says, the big "God rested, OH DEAR", is what crazy athiests use to try and disprove him. "Day" is not a defined time, as god lives outside of time. Thus, day could be anywhere from a billion years, to three nanoseconds. (The planet earth didn't exist, how could a day be based around it :D)

2. Why were there any instances where God was displeased or pleased?
I don't know...

3. Why is there a war between Heaven and Hell?
Remember Yin-Yang? If everything was good, where would we be? God would be really really bored if he had the mind of a human. In the first war, god did sit out. His angels did all the fighting, that whitehouse stylized bastard.

4. Why does Hell exist if God is displeased by it?
Why was Hell created if God did not wish it?
Who said God was displeased by hell? Who said god himself didn't create it?

Other than the fact that hell exists in one place only(THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET), the New Testament.

Right. God can do those things but perhaps chooses not to.
That comment says "I give up". Can't even come up with a logical reason! :D

Why does it matter?

It matters because it doesn't really make sense. I think Windwip is asking some good questions.

I have one: If God knows the future and what your individual future is going to be, why does He bother putting us in this world to go through a series of life experiences and choices that will ultimately determine whether our afterlife will take place in heaven or hell? Err, I guess that was too wordy. What I mean to ask is, why do we bother to stress out about being good or bad if our destiny is pre-determined?

Why does it matter?
It is a nice topic to debate. If you don't think it matters, why'd you post?

What I mean to ask is, why do we bother to stress out about being good or bad if our destiny is pre-determined?
Because, we have been pre-determined to do so, because you have been pre-determined to think that. I have been pre-determined to reply like this. You have NO choice if it is pre-determined, you are pre-determined to question or not question, pre-determined to "change" or not "change". If it is pre-determined, you don't have a choice of weither or not to get stressed over about it. Lastly, there are few religions that still teach pre-destination, mostly because the populous wont follow, and religion is something that is built up to try and get the largest number of people to follow.

Originally posted by Blibblob
WindWip, the easiest answer would of course be: God doesn't exist... but anyways...

1. Why did God have to rest on the seventh day?
To look down upon his creation pleased. That is mostly what it says, the big "God rested, OH DEAR", is what crazy athiests use to try and disprove him. "Day" is not a defined time, as god lives outside of time. Thus, day could be anywhere from a billion years, to three nanoseconds. (The planet earth didn't exist, how could a day be based around it :D)

Actually Blib, the earth was created on the first day.
According to the KJV of the Bible:

Genesis 1
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Ok, cool so far. It's the end of the first day and we have the earth, we have light and darkness, and we call them day and night respectively.

Now let's skip ahead three days.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Ignoring for a moment what the length of the day was prior to the creation of the sun, moon, and stars on day four, the Bible states on day one, that the light and dark were divided and we had night and day...how? Where was the light coming from? How was it divided and why? And we also have the question of the length of the previous three days to ponder since without the sun it would be difficult to measure. It says specifically in verse 14: "let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:". So we know that God created the Sun to be used to measure a day. What was the measure based on before day four?

It is also interesting to note that on day three the following happened:

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

So we have all manner of plants being formed before there is any source of light and heat to support life on the earth. Hmmm...seems a little backwards to me. Perhaps God had to rest on day seven because he was tired from making all that light and heat before the sun was created.

I would like to add something here.

When you talk about a being that's omnipotent, the future is not "seen" by this being, right? In theory, to say that would mean that the power of "God" is second to the power of "movement of the universe". Theoretically, an omnipotent being creates/alters what happens, anywhere anytime. Of course, logically this makes for some interesting problems.

Ok how about this just for fun! God took His sons on a field trip to teach them how to create stuff. Something that all young gods need to know. In the process of learning how to create stuff they knocked up a planet. We are the result of this. And then it goes on to say that God's sons knocked up us. Our daughters anyway. And from there it was a mess.

Jesus says something about us being the adopted children of God the Father. If we were created in God's and his sons image and God's sons could procreate with us then technically we are baby gods. Today we have 6 billion baby gods running around loose on this planet and each one is creating their own future.

The first thing you learn in advanced "yoga science" is that your mind is a thought generator and that creation is a manifestation of thought. Your mind more or less, depending on how much spiritual mass you have, has the ability to manipulate creation, the creation that we all live in. And God will "Not" go against your will. But we as your neighbor will and we are in a state of ignorance, so watch your step! :) Love, Michael

Originally posted by Blibblob
Right. God can do those things but perhaps chooses not to.
That comment says "I give up". Can't even come up with a logical reason! :D [/B]

Why does it have to be logical? We're not dealing with science here.

Ah but there is a science to God. It is just that people who know about it don't share it with you. That is all we need is a world full of people who actually understand God. :) acaveyogi

Wow, no one's lost their temper yet! :) This is a special forum
Originally posted by Blibblob
1. Why did God have to rest on the seventh day?
To look down upon his creation pleased. That is mostly what it says, the big "God rested, OH DEAR", is what crazy athiests use to try and disprove him. "Day" is not a defined time, as god lives outside of time. Thus, day could be anywhere from a billion years, to three nanoseconds. (The planet earth didn't exist, how could a day be based around it :D)[/b]
The measurement for a day is still a unit of time. No matter what you decide the length of time at that period is, it is still a period of time. So the idea that God needs to rest at all, for any length of time is contradictory to his power of omnipotence.

2. Why were there any instances where God was displeased or pleased?
I don't know...
Ok, let me explain a little futher on this one. If God can see everything that will happen, then there should be no reason for him to be displeased or pleased, because he knew the outcome when he created the scenario.

I gtg but I'll reply to the rest soon.

Why does it have to be logical? We're not dealing with science here.
So, God isn't logical?

Vilepagan, I stand corrected on creationism, it has been so long since I read the bible, I must be losing it.

acaveyogi, the little story you gave is basically the christian belief before Constantine rewrote/pieced together the bible. There was one "god" who made and shaped the earth(not the universe), and put Adam and Eve in his garden(joke goes, as pets). Until Sophia(translates out as knowlege, enlightenment, which is where philosophy came from) came along and as the serpent(snakes were widly seen as wise and powerful creatures, as seen in greek mythology as the god of medicine and knowlege has a snake around his staff) gave them the fruit of knowlege and freed them from Demuirge(I think that translates to ignorance, greed, jealousy, something like that). Demuirge got mad later and attempted to "flood" the earth to wipe their memories, but they were saved by "angels". Demuirge is still considered to send demons to corrupt us. One time Sophia took action and informed a prophet, a normal man, who we call Jesus. Jesus was not even considered the son of god until Constintine came around.

The measurement for a day is still a unit of time. No matter what you decide the length of time at that period is, it is still a period of time. So the idea that God needs to rest at all, for any length of time is contradictory to his power of omnipotence.
Resting has more to do with god wanting to look down at what he made, pleased.

Ok, let me explain a little futher on this one. If God can see everything that will happen, then there should be no reason for him to be displeased or pleased, because he knew the outcome when he created the scenario.
And onto being pleased. Seriously, I have no idea how to explain it(in a logical way, not just, "he's god, he can do what he wants and we shouldn't question that"), I'm not christain, I'm an athiest. Unless, you redefine "all knowing", as not knowing the future, just the entire past and present. That god is still subject to the laws of time. Which would place him within our dimension, or one above ours? Is time the fourth or fith dimension?

So, God isn't logical?

I dunno - maybe he is and maybe he isn't. I'm just saying he doesn't have to be and establishing whether it is or not doesn't really prove anything.

Ok, let me explain a little futher on this one. If God can see everything that will happen, then there should be no reason for him to be displeased or pleased, because he knew the outcome when he created the scenario.

I pretty much know what would happen if I put a can of paint and a two year old in a room together, but that doesn't mean I can't be displeased when he dumps out the paint. I don't think God knowing what will happen implies that he caused it to happen or perhaps should have interfered in the events that lead to its occurance.

Blibblob I love athiests. they have the most rational approach to God that anybody could possibly have. They are the most religious people on this planet. And I am quoting somebody here, but it is real. We have all been issued knowledge about what God is and we think that it is real. Only an atheist questions this knowledge. I have been a Christian mystic since I was five years old (49 years) because of one experience. I have been a student of "yoga science (union/yoked to /with God) for thirty years (and thousands and thousands and thousands of hours of meditation) because I love God, and Christianity failed me. But then they were just people guided by ignorance for the most part. I am a wild yoga master and I am upset about stuff. And that is not right. I think that I took to many short cuts to get to where I am. And I still have an attitude. AH man! You don't have to be perfect to know God, you just have to survive the experience. God will give you whatever you want and if you want to destroy yourself, it will be His gift to you. If you approach God through anything but true "Love", you are in for a world of hurts, but at the same time, God is vulnerable to love and "Love" works. It is just that if you missuse "Love", you will end up in a spin off in your own filth forever. It is a problem when you are playing with God. Michael

Blibblob, When I say" why does it matter" I did not mean that I did not appreciate the topic.
I expected that there would be some one here that understood my question. Some one that had studied this life and had become aware of more than their optical environment.
The answer to my question would have come from a person that had surpassed the level of stress and strife in this life and had learned the true answers of existance. I cast away worries of such matters long ago thru personal experiences and was in no way due to mans religions or beliefs in pre-destiny. Now each day is beautiful and full of learning . There is no problem of right and wrong. I just try not to make ripples in another persons pond.
If another makes ripples in my pond they will subside.
The force that created all that is will not contact you, You must attune yourself to this river of knowledge and your questions will be answered,and that which you seek will be known. As the Christian Jesus said if you but had the faith of a mustard seed you could say move to yonder mountain and it would move. It was man that created a religion of convience from his words of wisdom in their misunderstanding.

Unless, you redefine "all knowing", as not knowing the future, just the entire past and present.
Though, knowing the past and the present along with being allpowerful is having the knowledge of the future.

If you have a closed system (except gravity) and let go of a ball, you know it will fall because of your powers of reason. Now since God is allpowerful, his powers of reason would be perfect and he would be able to see what will happen with everything that is in existence. As long as he knows everything that has happened, the present and as long as he is omnipotent, the three combined gives the power of foresight.

Guys God doesn't know the future. He just knows how it is being shaped. How it is being shaped creates a predictable reality. Afer all what are the odds that you will change? acaveyogi

Let’s see if I can cover everything…
Why did God have to rest on the seventh day?
He didn’t HAVE to, he CHOSE to. Maybe he chose to rest simply because he could.
Why were there any instances where God was displeased or pleased?
We have our own free will (I’ll get to that in the next answer) to choose which direction to take. Whether you’re religious or not you should have an idea of what’s right and what’s wrong. Naturally, if you willingly commit a wrongful act even though you know you shouldn’t, God becomes disappointed.
Why is there a war between Heaven and Hell?
It’s not so much a war as a contest. For whatever reason, we’re like chess pieces in a game between Heaven and Hell; each side tries to persuade as many of us as possible to follow their direction. The only rule is, neither side can violate our free will. Hell uses temptation as a method of persuasion, while God uses faith. How and why this contest started is something we weren’t meant to know about (like the dinosaurs).
Why does Hell exist if God is displeased by it?
Why was Hell created if God did not wish it?
Satan was originally an angel who proved too evil to remain in God’s service. Therefore, Hell was created as his prison cell. God doesn’t WANT anyone to end up in Hell, but if someone insists on being persuaded in that direction, he has no choice but to let Hell take them. In the end, our final destination is our own choice.

Guys God doesn't know the future. He just knows how it is being shaped. How it is being shaped creates a predictable reality.
If God is all knowing and all powerful, by defalt he knows EVERYTHING that will happen to the exact instant.
Originally posted by Mopoloton
Naturally, if you willingly commit a wrongful act even though you know you shouldn’t, God becomes disappointed.
But it was God who created us, and since he knows the future he should not be disappointed, because he knew that we would commit those wrongful acts when he created us. Since he is all powerful, he could have created an environment in which we would not do those wrongful acts.
Hell uses temptation as a method of persuasion, while God uses faith. How and why this contest started is something we weren’t meant to know about (like the dinosaurs).
Though God already knows how the game ends. He gave us the qualities that make us tempted, so why punish us when we succumb to what we were given.
God doesn’t WANT anyone to end up in Hell, but if someone insists on being persuaded in that direction, he has no choice but to let Hell take them. In the end, our final destination is our own choice.
Yet it is predetermined in his mind. The entire planet and every action in it is in his control, based off of what he originally created. If you believe in God, then you must realize that every single act, good AND bad was predetermined by God. You must credit him with EVERYTHING if you believe in him; every war and every act of terrorism as well.

"If" God is this and "if" God is that, then you are right. It is only logical. The problem is "if". When truly one wishes to explore oneness with God the the first thing they do is forget about everything that they know about God except the concept of love. God is something that is out there that is really really big. And if you love this something, then this something will love you back. And share information with you that is for the most part beyond words. You can explore this something without the concept of love. But when you explore this something then this something also explores you and trust me you do not want this something exploring you without the concept of love. Because you will wake up being God and no one can be God and survive the experience. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. It just does. It is hard to put something into words that is beyond words. And what also makes God dangerous is that if you approach God right then God will give you what you ask for even though it is not for your own good. And things can get messy quick. acaveyogi

I did write if God is omniscent and omnipotent. I wrote another thread to debate the issue, but no one denied it and many agreed with it so I assumed we were in agreement.

You speak as if you have a great knowledge of who and what God is, but (please correct me if I'm wrong) it seems as if you came to this conclusion on your own. I'm curious why you believe this and how you came to this conclusion.

Look at it this way. If god is all powerful and is everywhere he can see every occurrance, he is all knowing, therefore he knows all matters of science, philosophy and such. Since god is still within the confines of time(since we enter his kingdom, and it is "known" that one of a lower dimension cannot interfere with a higher dimension we cannot enter his kingdom if he is in a higher dimension then ours), now then, since god is still within the confines of time he cannot "see" the future, but since he is all knowing of the past, present, future, philosophy, psychology, etc. he can give a guesstimate that will be 99.999999999...% correct. Exactly what occurs with Mua'dib in Dune, he "knows" the future.

Though God already knows how the game ends. He gave us the qualities that make us tempted, so why punish us when we succumb to what we were given.
Which is what modern Christianity(since modern Christianity is was founded on fabrications, lies and by very rich people, it is null and void to me) cannot tell us in a logical way, but Gnosis can. Remember my other posts, there were really "two" gods. One a lesser god, more of an angel, and then the all knowing, all powerful(which is why her/his name is Sophia) god/ess. Since the lesser god created us, and he was flawed, we are too, but since Sophia gave us the fruit of knowledge, we can overcome those flaws.

Windwhip major ouch! Where is what you posted? I am new and am use to slow message boards. I am having a heck of a time keeping up, if that is important. I like this message board, it has a wild west quality to it. But it has a good sheriff or things would be totally out of hand. And they are not. Everybody is allowed to play and everybody has something to contribute. The ancient Greeks would have loved this message board! I am just a person testing stuff and you guys are my bouncing board. If you don't think I am real, you will call me on it. And I walk off better, in a bunch of ways. Now if your question was to me, then yes I do claim to know God. I spent my whole life studying the bugger. But it is not going to be standard stuff. The dribble, that is standard stuff, is what is actually creating the problem. God is a force that can be manipulated. This is a manipulation that can be a gift to mankind or it can be an extreme danger to somebody. :) The truth is a double edge sword. Everbody says that the the truth is something that the average person has no tools to handle. This is why we need kings and stuff. Relative the US and Britain in the old days it was said that the common person can't participate in government because they are idiots. But it turns out that they are not. Do you really want to play with God and trust your neighbor to do it too? It is a problem. There is a reason why the Jewish folk lost Gods name. acaveyogi

When you were first born you had a God. you looked to this God for nurishment,protection, comfort in fearful times, your very existance.
Your MOTHER.
Think, What do you get from this statement.

I was adopted........ mom didn't have sh** to do with me :)

Here's the link to Gods Powers (http://allforums.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4202)
God is a force that can be manipulated.
I'm curious what you mean by this, how is it that God can be manipulated?

Originally posted by WindWip
If God is all knowing and all powerful, by defalt he knows EVERYTHING that will happen to the exact instant.

But it was God who created us, and since he knows the future he should not be disappointed, because he knew that we would commit those wrongful acts when he created us. Since he is all powerful, he could have created an environment in which we would not do those wrongful acts.

Though God already knows how the game ends. He gave us the qualities that make us tempted, so why punish us when we succumb to what we were given.

Yet it is predetermined in his mind. The entire planet and every action in it is in his control, based off of what he originally created. If you believe in God, then you must realize that every single act, good AND bad was predetermined by God. You must credit him with EVERYTHING if you believe in him; every war and every act of terrorism as well.
God gave us free will, but he also gave us the common sense to know right from wrong. Whether or not we choose to follow this common sense is our own decision.

God knows every POSSIBLE outcome, but we are the ones who ultimately decide our own fate. He can foresee where each of us are heading, but due to the “free will” rule, he can’t change it. Until we make the decision to pledge our lives to him, all he can do is watch and hope we will take advantage of the common knowledge he supplied us with.

Wow Mopoloton That pretty much sums it up! :)

WinWhip God can be manipulated with "Love". The problem is that all of "Creation" itself will rise up against you if you abuse the child that is God. :) acaveyogi

And Windwhip you also have the ability to create a god of your own choosing if you wish. This god can be you or something separate from you. That is also your own choice. Ain't life grand! :) acaveyogi

Free will is only as free as the physical world allows. Your mind is also bound by the physical world. Just as when you let go of a ball, it falls, when you encounter something you like, you will get a temptation to get more of it. This is your brain hard at work, but your brain works through a set of rules. There are certain things which we humans can predict a person will do because we know them.
God must know them a great deal more than we do. He must know everything about them, their structure, the makeup of the chemicals in their heads. With that information he would know what a person is thinking at a given time.
By knowing everything, and being omnipotent, God knows everything that is to come. There is no way around it

Ok WindWhip what about natural creativity? Creation itself has two percent creativity built into the system. This is to keep things from becoming stagnant. Not even God has control over this and He/She/It set it up that way. And just out of curiosity WindWhip did God tell you personally that He/She/It was all knowing and all powerful? Where did you get this information? :) acaveyogi

could god create a boulder so large that even he could not move it?

ah, that was my 300th post. go me.

Hi Sputnik! Congrats for your 300th post! About your boulder, God created mankind and he can't move it without our help. I have never had 300 posts in my life. Whoa! Sputnik major congrats an your 300th!!!!! acaveyogi

Originally posted by acaveyogi
Ok WindWhip what about natural creativity? Creation itself has two percent creativity built into the system. This is to keep things from becoming stagnant. Not even God has control over this and He/She/It set it up that way. And just out of curiosity WindWhip did God tell you personally that He/She/It was all knowing and all powerful? Where did you get this information? :) acaveyogi
Your coming out of the blue there. But I have already answered the question on omnipotence and omniscence. There is a debate on it, but so far all are basically in agreement that God is all knowing and all powerful. Gods Powers (http://allforums.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4202)

The argument on creationism is here (http://allforums.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3357). You do realize that your idea is just as preposterous as what you said about God coming down and telling me that he was all powerful. It has just as much backing, which is in essence, none.

Windwhip Yep. It is like the question, "How many Angels can dance on the head of a pin?". Everyone who has truly studied God on a one to one bases says the same thing, "God is Something that is totally beyond comprehension." "And that what you learn from this Something is totally beyond words." "And if you love this Something it will love you back, more." Now based on my experience of almost fifty years of studing God the above three things are real. Anyway WindWhip I am not posting this to argue with you, you are as right in your logic as any clear thinker can be. I am posting this for others who wish to go beyond logic. Because if one truly wishes to know God personally, they limit God by giving God "labels". God has to be this and God has to be that, so the mind looks for what has to be and misses what really is. You could argue that loving God limits God. But if I am going to play with the Unknown, I would rather that It to loved me, if at all possible. acaveyogi

Acaveyogi;

Is God loving, does he/she/it have the same emotions as humans? You say not to mix up human logic but then throw love into it. Maybe God is just the creater and that's it, doesn't give two terds as to what we feel? Maybe the spirits of our ancesters is the emotions one feels and not the emotions of God? Once we are here God has done her/his job and lets other spirits take over?

Originally posted by WindWip
Free will is only as free as the physical world allows. Your mind is also bound by the physical world. Just as when you let go of a ball, it falls, when you encounter something you like, you will get a temptation to get more of it. This is your brain hard at work, but your brain works through a set of rules. There are certain things which we humans can predict a person will do because we know them.
God must know them a great deal more than we do. He must know everything about them, their structure, the makeup of the chemicals in their heads. With that information he would know what a person is thinking at a given time.
By knowing everything, and being omnipotent, God knows everything that is to come. There is no way around it
Windwip, this is probably your most accurate post to date. Yes, God knows everything about us, that’s why it’s impossible to mask our true feelings to him. As I said before, he knows every possible outcome to a person’s life. He knows the answers to all the “what ifs.” It’s up to the person to decide which outcome will occur.

While it’s true that some people are more susceptible to temptation than others, EVERYONE has the basic knowledge of right from wrong. Whether or not you use that knowledge is entirely up to you.

My whole argument here is;
God is omniscent
+
God is omnipotent
=
God knows everything that will happen and decided for it to be that way since he was the one who created everything.

Therefore;
God chose to have all the evil and bad things happen, such as terrorism, the crusades, 9-11, the holocaust, the korean war, WWI and WWII, vietnam, mao tze dong, stalin etc....

WindWip;

If you were correct then this would prove that God is both evil and good. So if that's the case then there would be no devil???

According to the Christian religion there is a devil, and according to my idea the devil was all part of God's scheme from the start. He created the devil as he is/was, knowing what would happen when he created the devil and fully knowing all the damage and torment that the devil would cause.

If you make a bomb and set it to go off in a daycare (assuming you understand everything about the bomb) and it goes off killing all the children, are you not responsible for the damage of the bomb?

Originally posted by WindWip
My whole argument here is;
God is omniscent
+
God is omnipotent
=
God knows everything that will happen and decided for it to be that way since he was the one who created everything.

Therefore;
God chose to have all the evil and bad things happen, such as terrorism, the crusades, 9-11, the holocaust, the korean war, WWI and WWII, vietnam, mao tze dong, stalin etc....
I agreed that God is omniscient and omnipotent, but I never said the outcome of a person’s life is predetermined. We all have the freedom to do what we want with our lives and God will respect that freedom, even if a person is heading down the wrong path. We all know right from wrong, so if we live an immoral life, we only have ourselves to blame.

To understand god's powers I would think it would first be neccessary to define what/who God is. This question is probably unanswerable, but I'm sure you would get many opinions on the subject. How can you decide what God's powers are unless you have a solid definition of God's makeup. Even the christian Bible doesn't really give you a definition of god, although it gives you a lot of descriptions of his powers.

As to all of the evil in the world, and the difference between right and wrong...

We all know right from wrong, so if we live an immoral life, we only have ourselves to blame.


God chose to have all the evil and bad things happen, such as terrorism, the crusades, 9-11, the holocaust, the korean war, WWI and WWII, vietnam, mao tze dong, stalin etc....

Not only does it not make a great deal of sense to say God doesn't want us to do this thing or that thing, but the very definition of good and evil was invented by man, and it changes over time and varies from culture to culture. What we consider evil now was not neccessarily evil in the past or even today on the other side of the world. To accept the idea of God, and the ideas of heaven and hell, you must accept that there is a higher definition of good and evil that men are not privy to. WindWip's example of the Crusades is one such instance. We look back on the Crusades and see an orgy of murder and mayhem, but to the participants it seemed they were doing God's own work. Slavery is considered evil today, but the Bible extols its virtues. If there is a God, we are all a part of him, and therefore his powers lie in each one of us. We define good and evil for ourselves, and therefore we hold the ultimate responsibility for what we create and what we destroy.

God is knowledge of all that is.
The Devil is mans thinking mind that contains hate , greed.

To reach God is to completely remove hate and greed from the thinking mind.
To enter hell is to die without the knowledge.
There is nothing else.


Now do you see the falacy of Mans futile established religions.