This question goes to all of you on the forum who find it "offensive" if religion were to be taught in school.

Which offends you more? People who preach their beliefs of God, or the overabundance of accessiblity to pornography our society has, in today's world?

Your thoughts are appreciated.

Depends on the type of porno. Nothing wrong with the human body. Hard-core, however, is definitely more offensive.

Why is porn bad? and if it's accessible is that a bad thing too?

I am greatly offended by unknowns being presented as fact.

On porn:

Because I don't have children and am not planning on ever have one, pornography and its accessibility is pretty much not a concern of mine. But truthfully, even if I do have children, it's hard to say if I'll be very concerned about pornography anyway. Also, if you went and saw my topic in "Chat Central", you see that as far as I know, porn is not as accessible today in the US as in many other countries. I view pornography as a form of legible entertainment for adult, including the hardcore ones.

Anyway. Unless the country has a national religion, a particular religion shouldn't be taught at a public school. They should teach comparative religion. People who preach their belief in God offends a little. People who make no sense in their arguments are more annoying.

One more thing; both religion and porn are avaliable, yet only religion is tolerated in school.

I think a wrestling match is more offensive than both porn and people flaunting religion combined. But flaunting religion with no regards or cares into what anybody else thinks is far more offensive than porn. Uh, especially since I see nothing offensive about porn period, as long as it isn't rape.

I don't find either one offensive on it's own. I would say both are equally offensive when you're subjected to them involuntarily. I don't want someone preaching their version of religion to me when I answer my doorbell, but neither would I want them ringing my bell and then trying to sell me porn.

It is odd that our society thinks it's fine to peddle God door-to-door but if you tried to sell porn that way you'd probably get arrested. Yet when you do a Google search you find out what the people want.

God= 60,400,000 hits

Religion= 29,100,000 hits

Porn= 98,500,000 hits

Sex= 271,000,000 hits

Originally posted by Vilepagan
I don't find either one offensive on it's own. I would say both are equally offensive when you're subjected to them involuntarily. I don't want someone preaching their version of religion to me when I answer my doorbell, but neither would I want them ringing my bell and then trying to sell me porn.

It is odd that our society thinks it's fine to peddle God door-to-door but if you tried to sell porn that way you'd probably get arrested. Yet when you do a Google search you find out what the people want.

God= 60,400,000 hits

Religion= 29,100,000 hits

Porn= 98,500,000 hits

Sex= 271,000,000 hits Do you think it's what the people want, or could it possibly be because sex is an easier sell than religion? I mean, lets face it.... Everyone enjoys being titilated, but not everyone believes in God. Not only that, the internet is basically funded by the porn industry.

Originally posted by HaVoK
This question goes to all of you on the forum who find it "offensive" if religion were to be taught in school.

Which offends you more? People who preach their beliefs of God, or the overabundance of accessiblity to pornography our society has, in today's world?

Your thoughts are appreciated.

First off Children do not need porn in school, school is for learning not sex. I would rather my kids see someone holding a Bible then holding a mag. with pictures of some chick spanking herself. When "children" become adults then what they do is their business, but sex mag. have no business in school. The Bible should not be forced onto any kids either this is a family issue not the schools.

I am going to add something here:

Badly made porn featuring ugly, un-fit women who can't act worth crap and shoot by cameramen who don't even know how to get good angle, or a terrible story, or boring repetitive proceeding during sex scene, are more offending than many and many other things in life. Well made porn with beautiful women (with milf getting popular today, we no longer neccessarily add "young", although I'd prefer), nice body who are capable of carrying themselves in sexy, intriguing, skilled, fun, and such desirable ways (you can't delieve how few manage), have good sex scene paired with foreplay, little story, little cute talk after sex, shoot by a good cameramen and edited by people who can actually edit-----now this kind of porn is simply better entertainment than most other things. Just my thought.

MILF has always been popular, just not always by that particular term.

Originally posted by HaVoK
Do you think it's what the people want, or could it possibly be because sex is an easier sell than religion?
Yup, its easier to sell because there is more demand for it. There is more demand for it because its what people want.
First off Children do not need porn in school, school is for learning not sex. I would rather my kids see someone holding a Bible then holding a mag.
Children don't need porn in school, they don't need religion in school either. Many parts of religion I would not mind being taught to children, such as most of the ethics and morals. But presenting unsubstantiated 'facts' to children is wrong. I don't care if it's religion or politics, its wrong.

Also, I do not mind anatomy and sex being taught in school. There is nothing wrong with that

I don't se anything wrong with porn. it's not something I personally choose to view, but it's all a personal thing, everyone has the choice, and theirs no denying that kids my age watch it all the time. neither religion nor sex belong in the classroom. they should be taught, be cause they are importnat things to learn about, but neither should actually be present.

shit. I accidentally posted on sputnik's name. so the last thing was mine, not hers. sorry Lissie, you must have been logged on from the last time you visited my house, which os werid cus it was months ago. strange...

ok. that was a little wierd. i was reading it and i'm like, who is this crazy person pretending to be me? maybe i got drunk and posted that and i can't remember it now.

but it's ok, i understand ;)

Originally posted by ugababe117
I am going to say right now that porn is wrong no matter how you put it. And I don't want my kids to EVER have to come in contact with it. It's a bunch of ugly people who can't get laid in real life so they become porn stars...it's extremely sad and gross. It is a HORRIBLE life style. I'm going to go on a limb and say it is THE worst lifestyle possible!

Why exactly do you think it's wrong ugababe? I don't think porn should be viewed by kids either but as a general rule that's not who it's produced for. I've seen porn stars who were definitely NOT ugly, and I'll bet most of them have no trouble getting a date on saturday night. Why do you feel it's horrible, sad, and gross? Is it really a more horrible lifestyle than being say a serial killer or a republican?

Originally posted by ugababe117
It is gross, I personally don't want to see some ugly skank naked...and yes most like 85% are EXTREMELY ugly!!!!! It is deffinitely just as equal as being a serial killer. And your whole wise crack about the republicans is way out of line, not to mention immature.

Sad to say uga I'm almost twice as "mature" as you...It's equally sad that you don't recognize humor when you see it...you must be a very unhappy person. :(

Originally posted by ugababe117
Yes, I am so unhappy...I'm graduating college next year...live in a sorority with girls that have now become my sisters and I have had some of the best times of my life in that house, have a job that probably makes just as much as you do, have a great relationship with my parents (my dad being one of the funniest people you can come by), and watch kids 4 days a week that love me to death. IT'S HORRIBLE! It's just so ironic to me because I love to laugh and I love to joke it's some of my favorite things to do but I just don't like you.

If you love to laugh and joke then why do you take offense at humor on this forum? One of the most important things about having a good sense of humor is the ability to laugh at ones self. It seems that any attempt at humor you take personally and respond with insults...lighten up ugababe, you're just not that important.

Originally posted by Vilepagan
lighten up ugababe

Give it up Pagan! :)

Out of curiosity Ugababe, is this sorority one of the major ones you see on most campuses or a religiously based one? Not to over-generalize, but most of the sororities I've seen aren't always full of the most chaste and godly women I've ever met.

Originally posted by LionelHutz
Give it up Pagan! :)



Nay, I shall never surrender to the likes of ogrebabe. :D

You know, Lionel, a lot of hardcore rappers and gansters are supposed to be hardcore Christians too. (self-proclaimed, kissing the cross from time to time and say prayer to thank God for giving me the chance to do two girls at the same time) They thank God for giving them the talent and luck to make so much money so now they can do whatever the hell they wanted. I wonder if they think it's some kind of hobby. Convenient. It's like, I can be a hardcore Christian, but besides thanking God, I'll go on and commit every sin known to Christianity. :D

Originally posted by Dio Seijuro
It's like, I can be a hardcore Christian, but besides thanking God, I'll go on and commit every sin known to Christianity. :D

Exactly. Their God is a lenient one, I guess. :)

Originally posted by ugababe117
It's just so ironic to me because I love to laugh and I love to joke it's some of my favorite things to do but I just don't like you.
You don't like a lot of people. Also, even I have laughed along with people I don't like a few times. I seem to recall a couple times on this board Trav and I (and a couple others) were getting along really well. And I NEVER get along with Trav.

I second Pagan's observation: You must be a rather unhappy person, since you seem to outright hate those who do not agree with you.

Originally posted by ugababe117
No, most people don't have the balls to openly disagree with me. But vilepagan is too stupid too understand you don't mess with people like me: I am mean VERY VERY MEAN! No, I don't do godly things in my sorority, I drink and do every other "sorority thing"!I just don't give a damn. I haven't taken this whole thing seriously yet...I mean I'm dealing with middle schoolers and perverted old men!
Seems like everyone on the board has the balls to disagree with you, including the females!

Also, Pagan is hardly "stupid". He comes off as one of the most intelligent people on the board.

It seems we have found the reason Ugababe is so incoherent all the time! She is drunk in her sorority house!

Perverted od men? Nay, child - not hardly perverted. You're in need of 1000 inches, at the very least. Might do wonders for your attitude.

So, ugababe gets drunk and has lesbian sex and then says porn is bad? Maybe she thinks they are all ugly because she has a wart the size of New Hampshire on her nose. Sorry... couldn't resist.

Originally posted by ugababe117
No, most people don't have the balls to openly disagree with me. But vilepagan is too stupid too understand you don't mess with people like me: I am mean VERY VERY MEAN! No, I don't do godly things in my sorority, I drink and do every other "sorority thing"!I just don't give a damn. I haven't taken this whole thing seriously yet...I mean I'm dealing with middle schoolers and perverted old men!

HAHAHAHA...If your trying to be intimidating uga you're going to have to do better than F@CK OFF!...and for the record I have no interest in "messing" with you...*shudders at the thought*

I wish there were some way i could ban a particular person from threads i started. :(

It's really sad to me that someone would portray themselves as a christian, and make absolutely no effort to let their actions or thoughts follow suit.

Originally posted by ugababe117
making fun of me drinking is going to get you nowhere lol...I really could care less

I believe you meant you couldn't care less.

Originally posted by ugababe117
Omfg, lol grow up
OMFG, like LOL!!!!!111one WTG!!!! G2G!!!! BYEZZZZZ!!!!!

In an attempt to get this thread back on topic I'm posting the last post before the thread degenerated into an argument with ugababe. Ironically, or perhaps not, it was ugababes last on topic post that ended with an insult, thus precipitating a downward spiral. I will post it here with the insult deleted, and then will add a post of my own. Now ugababe, if you're interested in continuing the discussion, try to remember that you are actually talking to real live people who don't like to be insulted any more than you do. If possible, may I respectfully suggest you avoid words like stupid, retarded, and immature, or any other words or phrases to that effect, when referring to other posters or their posts.

It is gross, I personally don't want to see some ugly skank naked...and yes most like 85% are EXTREMELY ugly!!!!! It is deffinitely just as equal as being a serial killer. And your whole wise crack about the republicans is way out of line, not to mentioninsult deleted

Well ugababe, ugly is in the eye of the beholder, so what you consider ugly someone else may consider beautiful. I still don't see how you can equate being a porn star with being a serial killer, since they both aren't even crimes. I'm sure you're aware my wise-crack about republicans was just that, a wise-crack. I'm sorry you didn't think it was funny and I'm truly sorry if you were offended in any way by my uncalled-for remark. I would also like to apologize to any of your friends and/or family who might be serial killers for my unfair comparison of them with republicans. ;)

Originally posted by Vilepagan
I would also like to apologize to any of your friends and/or family who might be serial killers for my unfair comparison of them with republicans. ;) Hey!!!! I think im offended now!!! :D

Current news question that is kinda related to this thread. During the halftime show at the Super Bowl, Janet Jackson performed a duet with Justin Timberlake. After the song was over, Justin was carressing Janets lovely body and grabbed ahold of her top and ripped it off exposing her right breast. Anyone else find it offensive that this would be shown at 8 pm on national tv? Keep in mind that i do not find showing the naked female form offensive when viewed by adults, but i had my 7 year old nephew on the couch watching along with me and i had to explain why "that girl is nekkid on tv".

I missed it, but I don't really care Janet is a skank(I think thats what Uga calls them type of girls) I don't know which is worse seeing timberlake or Janets breast :D Seems as though half time keeps getting worse as the years go by.

Originally posted by HaVoK
Hey!!!! I think im offended now!!! :D

Current news question that is kinda related to this thread. During the halftime show at the Super Bowl, Janet Jackson performed a duet with Justin Timberlake. After the song was over, Justin was carressing Janets lovely body and grabbed ahold of her top and ripped it off exposing her right breast. Anyone else find it offensive that this would be shown at 8 pm on national tv? Keep in mind that i do not find showing the naked female form offensive when viewed by adults, but i had my 7 year old nephew on the couch watching along with me and i had to explain why "that girl is nekkid on tv".

I missed it too. I saw something briefly on the news about it but really wasn't paying attention. Was it an accident or deliberate?

To be honest HaVok, I think the U.S. is one of the most sexually regressed societies on the planet. There is nothing wrong with nudity and even children can be "exposed" to it without psychological damage. When we teach them it is wrong or bad I feel we do them a disservice. I'm not suggesting that children should watch people having sex, but nudity is perfectly natural and I believe we do more harm than good in teaching kids that there is something bad about seeing the naked human body.

Personally I think Kid Rock's performance was more offensive. Whoever told that guy he has talent?

I was watching that. It kind of looked like he did it on purpose. perhaps it will help my little sister fall otu of love with the ugly brute. but she did have a pasty on!!! if they show lil' Kim they can show Janet Jackson like that.and it was an MTV run half time show, so something like that should be expected. Kid Rock's performance was horrendous. If you wnat gross, uga, go llok at him, not porn stars. atleast they make an honest living. plus, wasn't he breaking some law by cutting up an American flag and wearing it as clothing?

From what my dad said about it, they had the signed get go from the big wigs. But afterwards MTV said it was a costume malfunction, and "appologized". Plus, there was a star there, if it wasn't planed, do you think there would be a star?

There is a law against what Kid Rock did. But I highly doubt "patriots" care, he was being "patriotic". Inbred trailer-trash like Kid Rock probably didn't know what he was doing.

What'd Kid Rock do? As usual, I watched something else during halftime.

Originally posted by LionelHutz
What'd Kid Rock do? As usual, I watched something else during halftime.

He came out wearing an american flag like a serape, I thought it was offensive...probably gave Trav a fit of apoplexy. :D

Originally posted by LionelHutz
What'd Kid Rock do? As usual, I watched something else during halftime.

He showed up :D :D

Don't worry you didn't miss anything worthwhile Timberlake got his rocks off by pulling Janets boob cover off :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Vilepagan
He came out wearing an american flag like a serape, I thought it was offensive...probably gave Trav a fit of apoplexy. :D

Nice. Well, as we all know, it's patriotic when when a redneck does something like that.

A legend in her own mind that one is.

lol hun you would be one lucky son of a b$itch if a girl like me even acknowledged your presence
One comment, mindless hypocritical baptist cunt, I am quite sure that if any one of us noticed that you "acknowledged [our] presence", we'd shoot ourselves. You sound a lot like somebody I knew, and she got raped.

Originally posted by ugababe117
lol hun you would be one lucky son of a b$itch if a girl like me even acknowledged your presence

I'm sorry ugababe...I'm gay but I'm really not interested in transsexuals. Perhaps after your surgery is complete you can find yourself a nice man...do you have any well mannered brothers?

Any chance you could try and stay on topic for more than one post in a row?

Any chance you could try and stay on topic for more than one post in a row?
Stay on topic! Do you have mad cow disease?! Nobody here EVER stays on topic. This site had more spam than Che-Lives.com.

Originally posted by Blibblob
lol hun you would be one lucky son of a b$itch if a girl like me even acknowledged your presence
One comment, mindless hypocritical baptist cunt, I am quite sure that if any one of us noticed that you "acknowledged [our] presence", we'd shoot ourselves. You sound a lot like somebody I knew, and she got raped.

That's not even close to being funny! Do you know how wrong that is!!!!!!!!! I know somebody who got raped and you DO NOT mess around with that! I hope you burn in hell for that!

That's not even close to being funny! Do you know how wrong that is!!!!!!!!! I know somebody who got raped and you DO NOT mess around with that!
What? I just said I knew somebody who got raped, she was a lot like you have shown here, and was taken advantage of through it. She wasn't as bright as she thought she was, if she was she wouldn't have touched that guy with a ten foot pole.

I hope you burn in hell...
You have no idea how many times I have been told that.

Originally posted by ugababe117
I hope you burn in hell for that!

Why, need some company?

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why would anyone who says they are a christian, wish someone eternal damnation for their thoughts?

Its not as if he were saying that rape was a good thing. He was commenting on an acquaintance of his who had been raped. Big difference. But im sure you already knew that, since you are graduating at the top of your class. LOL.

A christian possessing the slighest hate toward anything or anybody is not practicing the religion right, I thought. Of course, no one can do it perfectly, but you should at least try.

Also, religion is a very popular tool for people to use to feel superior to others. People who do this simply get satisfaction by thinking to themselves that they are better than non-followers--it's like good students vs bad students at a school mentality. It is also not something a person who's practicing a religion correctly should do.

Here we go again, Uga is sending yet, another one of our allforum folks to hell. Uga do you have stock in hell, you sure do seem to be helping it get business? :D

Perhaps her unchristian words & deeds will come to the attention of her acknowledged Almighty, and she'll be sent first to clear the way for the rest of us.

I say god is more offensive. "HE" forces his beliefs onto others. porn is a bit offensive to those of us who don't beat their meat or are just well sheltered from life, but hey,porn is great, and don't diss it...except child porn and hard core,gross disgusting porn,they suck royally

Great. Another pre-pubescent teen on the board who has all the answers to life. :rolleyes:

um, 15 is definitely pubescent. this is something a person my age does, in fact, have all the answers to. I'm with 15 year olds all day in school.

Originally posted by WhammyBar
this is something a person my age does, in fact, have all the answers to.
Enlighten us, O Mighty Whammy!

Great. Another pre-pubescent teen on the board who has all the answers to life
Damn, so I don't have the answers anymore? I should have written 'em down.

Once your pubes come in, your knowledge goes out.

Enlighten us, O Mighty Whammy!
Why not you borg, you probably know the most about porn. :D

I say god is more offensive. "HE" forces his beliefs onto others.
Nice try. I wouldn't blame god for evangilists shoving things down people's throats. They have nothing to do with god when they're wrong.

What about when they're right? Do you give credit to God then?

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Enlighten us, O Mighty Whammy!


I meant that 15 year olds are in the midst of puberty. not about god. please, I'm not that arrogant.

What about when they're right? Do you give credit to God then?
When are they right?

I meant that 15 year olds are in the midst of puberty. not about god. please, I'm not that arrogant.
And that's where my joke falls in :D.

Originally posted by Blibblob
I meant that 15 year olds are in the midst of puberty. not about god. please, I'm not that arrogant.
And that's where my joke falls in :D.
Well, mine too. Seems Whammy lacks a sense of humor, or maybe just humor-detecting capabilites.

Oh wait, upon further review, it was my fault. I forgot the :D on my post. My bad.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BorgHunter
Well, mine too. Seems Whammy lacks a sense of humor, or maybe just humor-detecting capabilites.

Oh wait, upon further review, it was my fault. I forgot the :D on my post. My bad. [/QUOTsputnik was franitcally IMing me to say that people were talking about my post. I thought people didn't quite get what I meant to say. which doesn't change the fact that I'm really really slow sometimes :D

which doesn't change the fact that I'm really really slow sometimes

heh heh

remember that time on the subway when you couldn't get out before the doors closed and we missed our stop? now that i look back on it, it was kinda hilarious.

Hmm, time to rename this the "Sputnik and Whammy thread"? :)

oops... ;)

Borg, good thing we keep personal life out of this? Or I'd be calling you an asshole, an idiot, jackass bastard every three seconds :D.