I noticed a Service Unavailable message for a few day's and then all of a sudden Allforums was back alive and already had some posters present. So was not everyone affected?

I noticed a Service Unavailable message for a few day's and then all of a sudden Allforums was back alive and already had some posters present. So was not everyone affected?

Ya, they were probably cleaning the forum up or making some changes or they fell aslep and forgot to hit the "ON" button. :p

Everyone was affected. The server was down. I contacted DrewM, the owner of the site, approximately two hours ago via e-mail. Happily, he saw my e-mail right away and rebooted the server.

I would have e-mailed him sooner but I'm using a relatively new computer since the hard drive on my old one died, and I didn't have an e-mail address for him in my new machine. Sorry about the delay, but hopefully it won't happen again.

Sorry about the delay, but hopefully it won't happen again.

Ya, well see that it doesn't or you'll have ME to deal with.



*runs away before getting pounded*


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Vile,

May I suggest that you make sure you have everyone's email address so that if something lke this, or even something worse happens you can email people with undates or even the URL of a new site if necessary. I would hate to lose all the acquaintances I have here.

Vile,

May I suggest that you make sure you have everyone's email address so that if something lke this, or even something worse happens you can email people with undates or even the URL of a new site if necessary. I would hate to lose all the acquaintances I have here.

I agree, that's an excellent idea. I'll post something to that effect shortly.

Everyone was affected. The server was down. I contacted DrewM, the owner of the site, approximately two hours ago via e-mail. Happily, he saw my e-mail right away and rebooted the server.

I would have e-mailed him sooner but I'm using a relatively new computer since the hard drive on my old one died, and I didn't have an e-mail address for him in my new machine. Sorry about the delay, but hopefully it won't happen again.

Plus how come he'd scarey kat about Postin...also.?
Afraid to deal wits me Polemic.
Lest one furgit I've YET to Lose a debate.

sorry - the server just need rebooting - I didn't know the site was down. I gave vile my cell number just in case he ever cant reach me by email.

sorry - the server just need rebooting
This wouldn't happen if you didn't run Allforums on Windows. :thumbs:

sorry - the server just need rebooting - I didn't know the site was down. I gave vile my cell number just in case he ever cant reach me by email.
i was just thinking that would be a good idea that somebody have it...on the subject of good ideas-is there any chance of having the time fixed? it's off by 8 minutes and driving me batty.

For anyone who wishes to have an alternate place for contact:

http://www.allforums.net/showthread.php?t=37075

This wouldn't happen if you didn't run Allforums on Windows. :thumbs:

Dude - you are like a broken record with your linux crap.

I wasn't affected.I was juts bein Polite,is all.
I came in hears and thought,where is everyone.?
How's come the place was like :

The Day Allforums Stood Still

So,I figger'd it was just unglued and maybe a Levee broke out back
of the Allforums backyard.
I was here.I believe there was a couple cleanin ladies also.
They spoke a little pig latin and were kinda in a hurry.
Is all.

Dude - you are like a broken record with your linux crap.
ya freebsd is better right?

Dude - you are like a broken record with your linux crap.

:corn:

Dude - you are like a broken record with your linux crap.
Who said anything about Linux? FreeBSD would be my OS of choice for a server.

But the choice isn't yours, it's Drew's.

He who pays the piper calls the tune.

But the choice isn't yours, it's Drew's.

He who pays the piper calls the tune.
I have never stated otherwise. But I have long been of the opinion that Windows is unfit to be a server OS. It's getting better, though, now that it has a halfway decent CLI.

Don't make me spank you and send you to your room, Borg.

I wondered what the heck happened! I've been trying to log on since yesterday morning. I'm glad the problem has been solved. I was beginning to have withdrawels...I was missing the Game section!

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Don't make me spank you and send you to your room, Borg.


Perhaps you'd like to spank this as well...


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Windows is unfit to be a server OS. It's getting better, though, now that it has a halfway decent CLI.

You haven't got the slightest clue what you are talking about.

Damn! I knew you had put on a little weight, Scummy, but where did all that cellulite come from?

Damn! I knew you had put on a little weight, Scummy, but where did all that cellulite come from?

It came from eating way too much cottage cheese. :(

You mean that's why your thighs look like cottage cheese?

It came from eating way too much cottage cheese. :(
how do you know when cottage cheese goes bad?:confused:

You mean that's why your thighs look like cottage cheese?

Precisely... and I'm proud. :D

how do you know when cottage cheese goes bad?:confused:


I dunno know, Mikey. How do you know when cottage cheese goes bad?


*Awaits brilliant answer*

I dunno know, Mikey. How do you know when cottage cheese goes bad?


*Awaits brilliant answer*
i was asking you.

i was asking you.

LOLOLOLOL!!!!! I thought you were gonna dazzle me with sumthin brilliant but alas, I was wrong.

OK, cottage cheese NEVER goes bad. At least in my life, it doesn't.

*chomp chomp chomp chomp chomp*

YUMMY!

LOLOLOLOL!!!!! I thought you were gonna dazzle me with sumthin brilliant but alas, I was wrong.

OK, cottage cheese NEVER goes bad. At least in my life, it doesn't.

*chomp chomp chomp chomp chomp*

YUMMY!
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how do you know when cottage cheese goes bad?:confused:

When you catch it holding up a convenience store.

When you catch it holding up a convenience store.

ROFL!

Who said anything about Linux? FreeBSD would be my OS of choice for a server.

Its microsofts choice aswell.

You haven't got the slightest clue what you are talking about.
You're right, how silly of me! You have shown me the error of my ways with your flawless logic and arguments! Oh, however could I have been so ignorant?

Microsoft: We Use FreeBSD (http://www.betanews.com/article/992921150)

This is an old article I just don't think its brought up enough anymore.

You're right, how silly of me! You have shown me the error of my ways with your flawless logic and arguments! Oh, however could I have been so ignorant?

well when you make silly broad statements like "Windows is unfit to be a server OS" then you just look like a clueless idiot.

About 2 hours before AF went off line I got an email warning me of a very nasty virus doing the rounds called 'postcard', which attacks your hard drive.

I thought it had knocked things off :)

well when you make silly broad statements like "Windows is unfit to be a server OS" then you just look like a clueless idiot.
Compared to FreeBSD? There's no reason for anyone to be using a Microsoft OS to run a server, unless you desperately need ASP or .NET stuff.

when the next time Allforums will play Possum.?
This happens occassionally.
Proilly cuz they dint pay their Bills,on time.
Speakin of which, have any yuz'all noticed how high the last
few montly bills were.?
I wasn't gonna say nuthin on account gas is high also.
Maybe if they offered a crossword puzzle board,they could
recoup sums there's lost revenue.
Is all.

This travesty will not go unpunished!

eh.....so it was down,sheesh it's not the end of the world people. :p

it's back now, that's all that matters.

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it's back now, that's all that matters.

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yeah,you were starting to get cranky without this place. :lolhit:

Compared to FreeBSD? There's no reason for anyone to be using a Microsoft OS to run a server, unless you desperately need ASP or .NET stuff.

You didn't say FreeBSD is better as a webserver than windows2003 - you said "windows is unfit to be a webserver" - which is patent crap. Windows is a very stable webserver & you have to use windows for .net & to have a serious database like SQL server. Now - when it comes to php & mysql windows is not the best choice, but that has nothing to do with windows being unfit to be a webserver - that was just you talking out yr ass.

Windows is a very stable webserver
It can be, sometimes. It's a crapshoot, though. FreeBSD is far more reliably stable, and doesn't require a reboot with every security update that comes around, only the kernel updates.
& you have to use windows ... to have a serious database like SQL server.
You don't consider PostgreSQL serious? It's probably the best database system around.

You didn't say FreeBSD is better as a webserver than windows2003 - you said "windows is unfit to be a webserver" - which is patent crap. Windows is a very stable webserver & you have to use windows for .net & to have a serious database like SQL server. Now - when it comes to php & mysql windows is not the best choice, but that has nothing to do with windows being unfit to be a webserver - that was just you talking out yr ass.

Old SunMicrosystems ...JAVA.

:bighug:

is it just my imagination, or does Drew keep the server in his closet, and he rebooted when he got home from the bar?

Looks like Microsoft IIS may not be able to handle the traffic at AFN

Have your people contact my people when the forum crashes...next time.

*sigh*

Yes, what is up with the crashes lately? can anyone explain the reason this happens. I went to get on earlier and was not able. Off the topic is there a travel section in here? I want to take a trip from Texas to New England.

to many open sockets is my guess; all waiting

to many open sockets is my guess; all waiting


Thanks, I guess that is like the all circuits are busy message we get on our phones at times. I wonder if that will ever overload like blowing a fuse. You can tell I am not a computer pro.

Thanks, I guess that is like the all circuits are busy message we get on our phones at times. I wonder if that will ever overload like blowing a fuse. You can tell I am not a computer pro.

Its called a memory leak, I not a pro either and i could even be wrong in my post but thats what I think it is. The process needed to cycle but need to wait until all the connections closed. A guru would open a new process or reboot the server.

I think Drew needs to remember to pay the electric bill before the power gets turned off

Its called a memory leak
Memory leaks occur when applications fail to free memory before they close or are killed. I'm not sure what you're talking about; TCP/IP connections are supposed to time out eventually.

Sometimes I wonder if the trans Atlantic lines have been disrupted when I get the 'Service Inavailable' header.

I freely admit I know shit about how this stuff works, but I have a question.

Is there any one terminal or geographical place that all AF traffic has to go thru.

If so, is that were the problem arises.

Thank you :D

Conspiracy. I blame Bush.

Conspiracy. I blame Bush.

Well its after 4, and I aint blamed Georgie boy for anything today yet, so ya might be onto summit there my man.

Memory leaks occur when applications fail to free memory before they close or are killed. I'm not sure what you're talking about; TCP/IP connections are supposed to time out eventually.
your using application pools and the processes in them need to cycle. I'm not a big fan but I know that. Try some microsoft tutorials that is why I remember.

PS I guess i was thinking to many open processes (memory leak) and not open sockets OK

Thanks

Sometimes I wonder if the trans Atlantic lines have been disrupted when I get the 'Service Inavailable' header.

I freely admit I know shit about how this stuff works, but I have a question.

Is there any one terminal or geographical place that all AF traffic has to go thru.

If so, is that were the problem arises.

Thank you :D

The AF server is in a datacenter in Dallas (no it's not in my closet). The "server not available" happens when IIS has stopped (the webserver on the PC - all web servers are just a PC). The PC itself is still running fine when that happens. The reason for IIS stopping? who knows? - I think to be honest it's related to attempts to hack the server, for certain attacks IIS stops. A decent hardware firewall would stop all that - but that would be overkill for AF. To answer the question on if it's too much traffic - the answer is no. The server could easily handle 1000x as much traffic as AF gets without even straining. AF is very cheap to keep alive - the server is about $150 a month (it also has a couple of other minor things on it like a mail server for one of my email addresses and a helpdesk for another site I own).

To contrast that to say a real hosting setup - my main business - the hosting for that site is many servers in their own rack (in a Houston datacenter) & > $2000 a month in hosting costs. AF is just a fun low cost thing & the hosting reflects that - so sometimes the server says "unavailable" - if I notice it it takes 2 seconds to fix. The problem looks worse when the site is down for 2 days (it took me 2 days to be aware of it the other day - after an email to let me know)

The problem looks worse when the site is down for 2 days (it took me 2 days to be aware of it the other day - after an email to let me know)
Shouldn't it be possible to set up a script, either on the Allforums server or somewhere else, that polls the site x times per day to check for a service unavailable message, and if it gets one, either sends you an email or automagically reboots IIS?

The AF server is in a datacenter in Dallas (no it's not in my closet)
i'd hope not, but my scenario is more fun.:)

Shouldn't it be possible to set up a script, either on the Allforums server or somewhere else, that polls the site x times per day to check for a service unavailable message, and if it gets one, either sends you an email or automagically reboots IIS?

Sure - it would be, but somebody sending me an email (or calling - Vile has my number) seems like far less effort dont you think? Plus - the site might go a year without that happening.

Sure - it would be, but somebody sending me an email (or calling - Vile has my number) seems like far less effort dont you think? Plus - the site might go a year without that happening.

Gosh. This is all getting too complicated for me. How can I cope ? ?

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Overall, Allforums is quite reliable. In fact, lately, AF has been out performing Yahoo which as far as I can tell has more than it's share of downtime. I give AF a high B+.

As a side note ... I once worked as a perl programmer for a company that considered it's software and services so mission critical that 5 seconds of downtime per year was considered unacceptable which led me to ask if that means 4 seconds per year IS acceptable. I didn't work there long.