Obama Descended From Slave Owners (http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/obama_descended_from_slave_owners/)


White slave owners…
WASHINGTON (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/03/04/obama_ancestors_owned_slaves_a_researcher_finds/)—Democrat Barack Obama, who would be the first black president if elected, has white ancestors who owned slaves, according to a genealogical researcher.
The researcher, William Addams Reitwiesner , says the discovery is part of his first draft of research into Obama’s roots. Obama’s father was from Kenya, and his mother was a white woman from Kansas.
...Reitwiesner found in 1850 Census records from Kentucky that one of Obama’s great-great-great-great grandfathers, George Washington Overall, owned a 15-year-old girl and a 25-year-old man.
The same records show that one of Obama’s great-great-great-great-great-grandmothers, Mary Duvall, also owned two black slaves.
Here’s my idea: The next time someone brings up reparations for slavery, they go to the descendants of slave holders first. Pony up, Barack! It’s only fair!
Cross posted at Proof Positive (http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/)

Very interesting. Presents some unique opportunities for the future, should he get elected. I see it as a bridging between a great divide. Although, I guess it could just as easily go the other way...

Obama Descended From Slave Owners (http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/obama_descended_from_slave_owners/)


White slave owners…
WASHINGTON (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/03/04/obama_ancestors_owned_slaves_a_researcher_finds/)—Democrat Barack Obama, who would be the first black president if elected, has white ancestors who owned slaves, according to a genealogical researcher.
The researcher, William Addams Reitwiesner , says the discovery is part of his first draft of research into Obama’s roots. Obama’s father was from Kenya, and his mother was a white woman from Kansas.
...Reitwiesner found in 1850 Census records from Kentucky that one of Obama’s great-great-great-great grandfathers, George Washington Overall, owned a 15-year-old girl and a 25-year-old man.
The same records show that one of Obama’s great-great-great-great-great-grandmothers, Mary Duvall, also owned two black slaves.
Here’s my idea: The next time someone brings up reparations for slavery, they go to the descendants of slave holders first. Pony up, Barack! It’s only fair!
Cross posted at Proof Positive (http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/)
hey, if anyone out there can prove they were lawfully held as a slave in the U.S., i'll pony up 40 acres and a mule out of my own pocket.

Does anyone actually find this "issue" important at all?

Does anyone actually find this "issue" important at all?I dont find the issue of slavery in any form an "issue" or "important".

it's an issue to dharma.. who thinks that bush's great grandpa or whatever is supposedly connected to hitler.. so that means that Bush= hitler LOL

Does anyone actually find this "issue" important at all?
it's an issue? i thought it was just trivia? like Obama being related to Cheney.:confused:

it's an issue to dharma.. who thinks that bush's great grandpa or whatever is supposedly connected to hitler..

George B*sh's grandfather --the late US senator Prescott Bush-- was most certainly connected to the Nazis. There is no "supposedly connected" about it. He was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from involvements with Nazi Germany.

Prescott B*sh was a war profiteer. His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave laborers at Auschwitz.

And it is all a matter of historical record, you simpering fucking cretin.

George B*sh's grandfather --the late US senator Prescott Bush-- was most certainly connected to the Nazis. There is no "supposedly connected" about it. He was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from involvements with Nazi Germany.

Prescott B*sh was a war profiteer. His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave laborers at Auschwitz.

And it is all a matter of historical record, you simpering fucking cretin.
Even if this is true, so what? Why is there a very vocal element within our society that feels that we are responsible for the sins of our fathers?

not in our society.. just in the politicians who oppose our viewpoints.

Even if this is true, so what?

So, nothing.

Just pointing out a simple fact.

Just because Prescott B*sh was a war profiteer in bed with the Nazis is NO reflection whatsoever on George W B*sh or his actions in the present day. (although, since Prescott was the source of the B*sh family fortune, G. W. B*sh is where he is today as a direct result of said fortune having been amassed specifically due to the ties to Nazi Germany and the Third Reich that Prescott B*sh had and pursued so successfully)

There is nothing illegal that the present day G W B*sh has done or can be condemned for with regards to dealings with the Third Reich.......but if there were any such thing as honesty to do with the person in question, it could be and should be at least be acknowledged by the Public at large that the current president's grandfather was a war profiteer and a traitor. (there is indisputable evidence that in 1933 Prescott Bush was in on a planned coup --by a group of far right fascists-- to overthrow democracy in the USA. The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, members of some of the most famous families in America, believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to 'beat' the great depression.)

Why is there a very vocal element within our society that feels that we are responsible for the sins of our fathers?

It's a concept ingrained in the barbaric and ridiculous religion that the vast majority of the citizenry is consumed by.

So, nothing.

Just pointing out a simple fact.

Just because Prescott B*sh was a war profiteer in bed with the Nazis is NO reflection whatsoever on George W B*sh or his actions in the present day. (although, since Prescott was the source of the B*sh family fortune, G. W. B*sh is where he is today as a direct result of said fortune having been amassed specifically due to the ties to Nazi Germany and the Third Reich that Prescott B*sh had and pursued so successfully)

There is nothing illegal that the present day G W B*sh has done or can be condemned for with regards to dealings with the Third Reich.......but if there were any such thing as honesty to do with the person in question, it could be and should be at least be acknowledged by the Public at large that the current president's grandfather was a war profiteer and a traitor. (there is indisputable evidence that in 1933 Prescott Bush was in on a planned coup --by a group of far right fascists-- to overthrow democracy in the USA. The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, members of some of the most famous families in America, believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to 'beat' the great depression.) If that is true, thank you for sharing. Nothing would suprise me when talking about the power brokers of our country. They are capable of anything, imo.




It's a concept ingrained in the barbaric and ridiculous religion that the vast majority of the citizenry is consumed by.
Well, i was really thinking more along the lines of the slavery issue. Reparations, affirmative action, weak kneed white guilters and the like.

I fail to see what you mean with your statement, to be honest. How exactly is the concept of paying for the sins of our fathers an ingrained concept of christianity?

Hitler was a right place/right time moment in history.

He was able to take power because of his charisma, his promise of action, the WWI defeat, and pretty much everyone else in Germany not having a backbone. Hell, the Lutheran Church over in Germany was behind Hitler. They became crazed... and only those like Dietrich Bonhoeffer stood up to the fanaticism that was going on there... like the establishment of a 3rd reich that would last "1000 years", creating a "superior race", arresting anyone who was anti-Nazi, rounding up non-germans into camps, invading Poland...

Here are some good Bonhoeffer quotes:

“Action springs not from thought, but from a readiness for responsibility.”

“One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons”

“To endure the cross is not tragedy; it is the suffering which is the fruit of an exclusive allegiance to Jesus Christ”

“A God who let us prove his existence would be an idol”

“Politics are not the task of a Christian.”

“It is very easy to overestimate the importance of our own achievements in comparison with what we owe others.”

Talk about a true "saint".. this guy knew, he had such incite. I hope one day to reach his level of wisdom.

Does anyone actually find this "issue" important at all?

No, not in the least.

Even if this is true, so what? Why is there a very vocal element within our society that feels that we are responsible for the sins of our fathers?

And our great-great-great-great grandfathers too, apparently. :rolleyes: