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sarah rose
12-28-2003, 08:33 PM
The subject shared on this messageboard is the Rapture!Feel free to share your wisdom,and experience so we can usher wisdom!We hope to plant many divine seeds of thought here!
****In a Blink Of Your Eye!spirits will fly****
Greetings,
Real Rapture will be here in a blink of the eye,and eveything you own will be left behind!
Real Time Is Not Earth Time!Real Time Is Eternal...We never die...Nope...Never.......Ever!!
All Humans have a spirit!.
Dear Jesus:
Thank You for the sacrifice You made for me.
Please forgive me for all of my past sins.
I repent of these sins, and with Your help, I will change and not repeat them again.
I know I am not worthy; but, I willingly accept You in my heart as my Lord and my Savior,
and I thank You for Your blessings over my family and me!
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Fellow Christians ...DO VISIT THIS WEBSITE..(Heaven)
.Its time you see I am watching out for all of you...
http://www.sinner-prayer.com
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Fellow Christians ...DO NOT VISIT THIS WEBSITE..(Hell)
.Its time you see I am watching out for all of you...
http://www.passthison.com/r4/?pop1
You have free will.....Make the right choice...Please Share This Important Message!
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This email is harmless if you make the wrong choice you can fix the problem by adding a new homepage to your browser!
But making the wrong choice before the Real Rapture will be the worst mistake you ever made with your FREEWILL! GOD BLESS!
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LionelHutz
12-28-2003, 09:18 PM
This is why people don't take Christians seriously.
es347fan
12-28-2003, 10:14 PM
... (twilight zone music intro) ...
Well, is this spam, or just someone gone seriously sideways? Back in "the day" we'd be doing some deep psychiatric interviews with an eye toward census & bedspace on the locked ward with speech like this.
BorgHunter
12-29-2003, 07:56 AM
Oh wow! This well-thought out posting has converted me to Christianity! I see the light!!!
...Or not. :p
DrewM
12-29-2003, 11:08 AM
The Rapture....What a load of baloney.
The funny thing is that people actually believe this stuff !
psamtik071
12-29-2003, 11:20 AM
Strange that no mention of it is mentioned in the Bible at all...
DrewM
12-29-2003, 12:34 PM
I could be mistaken but I think there is some vague reference to it in the book of revelation.
psamtik071
12-29-2003, 01:01 PM
Vague is all...
Many texts are easily misinterpreted. This is just one of many. If the rapture (the gathering of the saints to go to heaven before the Second Coming) is such a big deal, there would be alot more clear text to substantiate it.
Mopoloton
12-30-2003, 12:07 AM
Rapture is coming, but its not here yet. This thread belongs in the hall of shame.
BorgHunter
12-30-2003, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by Mopoloton
Rapture is coming, but its not here yet. This thread belongs in the hall of shame.
I like leaving these alone. Maybe the original poster will come back and yell about how we're going to hell and we can make fun of her. Sure will be fun, unless she continues using "**" all over the place.
sarah rose
12-30-2003, 04:25 PM
The Rapture
The first thing we will look into is the rapture. Now realize that the word rapture is not used in the Bible. In many verses of the Bible the term caught up or transformed, translated, or changed is used. As you can see, several different terms are used for Rapture.
So how do we know that the rapture is really going to take place? In the Bible, there are many verses that relate to the rapture. Personally, I think that the one that best describes the rapture is in the verses from 1 Thessalonians 4: 13-17 (kjv).
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
As you can see in verses 16 and 17, the ones that are dead (or asleep) in Christ will rise first and then we who are alive (or still on this Earth) will rise to meet Him.
Also in John 14: 1-3 (kjv) Jesus said:
1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
And last, but most importantly, Jesus said in Rev. 3:10:
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
I believe that these verses alone give enough proof that the rapture is going to happen.
Revelation 6
12I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, 13and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as late figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. 14The sky receded like a scroll, rolling up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.
15Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and every free man hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16They called to the mountains and the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?" Foot note(They will try to hide in the earth from Wormwood!Huge falling star from space etc:(Gods wrath)and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky!
star is Wormwood
Revelation 8
10The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water-- 11the name of the star is Wormwood.[1] A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.
12The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night.
The following article appeared in the well respected Finland newspaper, Ammenusastia!
"As a communist I dont believe in heaven or the Bible but as a scientist I now believe in hell," said Dr. Azzacove. "Needless to say we were shocked to make such a discovery. But we know what we saw and we know what we heard. And we are absolutely convinced that we drilled through the gates of hell!"
Dr. Azzacove continued, ". . .the drill suddenly began to rotate wildly, indicating that we had reached a large empty pocket or cavern. Temperature sensors showed a dramatic increase in heat to 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit."
"We lowered a microphone, designed to detect the sounds of plate movements down the shaft. But instead of plate movements we heard a human voice screaming in pain! At first we thought the sound was coming from our own equipment."
"But when we made adjustments our worst suspicions were confirmed. The screams werent those of a single human, they were the screams of millions of humans!"
Listen To what was heard inside the Hollow Earth(Hell) at this website!The Introduction voice is ArtBell.
http://www.av1611.org/hell.html
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Do you know why Jacques Costeau, the famous underwater explorer, quit deep sea diving sometime before he died? It is said that he stopped because he had heard in one of the underwater caves he was exploring, the sounds of people screaming.
There was also another time, when one of his men, who was in a diving bell in the deepest trench at the Bermuda Triangle, also had a similar experience. He signaled to be brought up immediately. After being revived from his shock, he told others of his frightening experience of hearing "screams of people in pain".
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October 9th 2000
One Helluva Hole
The following story was circulated in 1990 by M.E.Beirnes, the Editor of "The Midnight Cry", an interdenominational and pre-millennial magazine which began in 1939. We received copies of TMC for some years, but have no idea whether it still operates. The story began in Volume 51, No. 4, April 1990, and continued in the June and July editions. In relating this story, extracts will be taken from the magazines before any comment is made. [Our editing is in square brackets.]
SOVIETS ARE DISCOVERING THE REALITY OF HELL. [So began the article.] From a translation of a newspaper article in Ammenusastia, a newspaper published in Finland, comes the following report. There follows also an evaluation by Martin Hunter. One thing is certain: hell is there, and sinners and careless "Christians" had better beware!
Dr. Dmitri Azzacov, the Russian scientist in charge of the project to drill a 14.4 km hole in remote western Siberia, said, "As a Communist I don't believe in heaven or the Bible, but as a scientist I now believe in hell." Azzacov further commented, "At this depth [about 9 miles] the drill suddenly began to rotate wildly, indicating that we had reached a large empty pocket or cavern. Temperature sensors showed a dramatic increase in heat to 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. We lowered a microphone designed to detect the sounds of plate movements down the shaft, but instead of plate movements we heard a human voice screaming in pain. At first we thought the sound was coming from our own equipment, but when we made adjustments our worst suspicions were confirmed. The screams weren't those of a single human being, they were the screams of millions of humans. Luckily, we had the recorder going, so we have the mightmarish sounds on tape. At that point we suspended the project and capped the hole. It was obvious that we had discovered something beyond comprehension. We had seen and heard things that were never meant to be seen and heard."
Another (Norwegian) scientist on the site, Chief Geologist Bjarne Nummedal (65) described "a fountain-head of luminous gas shooting up from the drill site," which took on frightening forms during the night. [This would presumably account for Azzacov's statement about what they had SEEN as well as heard.]
One thing is certain. [writes Beirnes] Hell exists as a factual, literal place within the earth, and that it is exactly as Jesus, the apostles and the prophets described it, a place of fire and of everlasting torments for the wicked. It is evident from the Biblical descriptions of heaven and hell that this is the quietist world men will ever live in, and that it will be either the bliss and joy of heaven, or the pain, torments and remorse of hell for every soul on the face of this earth - "according to their works." Sinners, backsliders and careless "Christians" should seriously consider this evidence and repent! Hell is no joke.
We will continue to print further verifications of this discovery as we receive them. The following is from Age Rendalen, Jnr, Stjerneblokkvn 20, Oslo, Norway, January 7th 1990. "While visiting with a friend in California over the Christmas holidays I happened to tune in to TBN and heard your account of the Finnish seismologists who had located a giant cavity in the earth, 9 miles down, and that their microphones had picked up sounds resembling human voices crying in anguish. I must confess that I laughed when I hear your account (I am special counsellor to the Ministry of Justice in Norway). I did not believe one word of it, and commented to my friend that Americans sure were gullible to believe that hell could be physically located to a hole in the ground. I cannot even begin to tell you what a shock it was to me when I returned to Norway and found the newspapers full of reports about this incident. I knew immediately that if there was a hell, I for sure would end up in it. A tremendous fear took hold of me, and for two nights I dreamed about fire and screams until I surrendered to God and committed my life to His hands for safe-keeping. And I now plead with you, don't let the skeptics squash this story, or in the least intimidate you from highlighting it. For your benefit I have translated an interview with a Norwegian, Bjarne Nummedal, who was the Chief Seismologist on this expedition. The interview was printed in the Norwegian newspaper Asker og Baerums Budstikke, Norway's largest and most reputable paper. Yours sincerely, Age Rendalen Jr."
Further verification of the article which appeared on page 9 of our April 1990 issue, was provided by Dr. Joseph Chambers, Senior Editor of The End Times and Victorious Living, March-April 1990. (1209 Little Rock Road, Charlotte, NC 28214) He included a copy of the original story in the Finnish paper, Ammenusastia, (August 1989) by Suomen Jengi ja Katulahetys r.y., (29880 Levasjoki, Finland.) a paragraph by paragraph translation, alternately Finnish and English . . . in which the event is substantially authenticated, and is certainly no "hoax" as some have claimed.
[Beirnes concludes the three editions on the "hell-hole" by saying] Every person on earth, when they die, will either go up to heaven, or down to hell. And the choice is yours to make, whether you will repent and go to heaven, or refuse Christ and go to hell.
On first reading these three editions of "The Midnight Cry", we adopted the attitude of believing the existence of the drilling, and the sounds that were heard, but attributing these sounds to peculiar noises emanating from inside the earth, as tectonic plates moved against each other. This would have been possible. After all, when huge objects are dragged across surfaces on the earth, we commonly hear rasping noises like sandpaper. We strongly objected to Beirnes's theology on hell.
However, in 1993 Kathryn Lindskoog wrote a book entitled "Fakes, Frauds, and other Malarkey", 301 amazing stories and how not to be fooled. [Zondervan Publishing House ISBN 0-310-57731-4]It was not until recent years that we were to contact Kathryn via correspondence. She was kind enough to allow us to quote from pages 74-75 in her book, which deals with the above story.
"In 1990 an English translation of a Norwegian newspaper article revealed an amazing event in the Soviet Union. Dr. Azzacov and other scientists on an oil drilling platform in the North Sea drilled a hole nine miles deep, then stopped when they smelled sulfur and heard millions of people screaming. The frightened scientists had discovered the location of hell. A translation of the Norwegian article was used by at least one American news announcer and appeared in a prophecy magazine called the Midnight Cry.
Biblical Archaeology Review published the news in a tongue-in-cheek report in its November-December 1990 [sic. Should be 1989] issue, likening the discovery of hell under Siberia to purported discoveries of Noah's Ark and the Ark of the Covenant. Many readers took the spoof seriously and sent in comments, including the following: "To take at face value the report from the Midnight Cry as though it were reliable and free from prejudice and bias is nave in the extreme. Then to report it without comment giving it an air of respectability is irresponsible." (Professor T.R.Hobbs, McMaster University Divinity College, Ontario, Canada.) "I hope you will stop printing such non-sensicle third- and fourth-hand information and stick to straightforward and helpful finds . . ." (Kerry Cort, Webster, New York). ". . . one would expect more from a scholarly journal." (Dr.Robert A. Box, Augusta, Kansas.) "I would like to see BAR follow up and see if a Dr. Azzacov even exists." (Janis Hutchinson, Everet, Washington.)
Editor Herschel Shanks answered that the article had been concocted by a hoaxer to test the American media and had never appeared in a Norwegian newspaper. "We thought . . . our readers would get a laugh over the story, just as we did. If hell is ever actually discovered, you may be sure that we will not confine our announcement to an item in [our miscellany page]. We'll give it a 72-point head across a spread - with the first color pictures of the place!"
"Outside the city are all those who love and practise falsehood." Spoofs, scams and hoaxes, call them what you like, are poverty-stricken devices which cause a great deal of upset in life, even though many would argue that "April fools" and "Practical jokes" are just good fun. Be that as it may, to have a fictitious story purporting to be fact, circulated by a magazine with such a high profile reputation as BAR was mischievous and ill-conceived. In the event, the American media were certainly "tested", and the hoax brought into the open those who persistently preach the Gospel ("good news"???) of everlasting conscious torment for millions. Many adhere to this teaching, simply because the wording of the Authorised Version seems to imply it, but when questioned further they refuse to face up to the moral issue, and the frightful blasphemy it causes to the character of God. Take the horrendous attitude of a late 19th century preacher (with a most applicable name!) the Reverend Joseph Furniss. He specialised in taking childrens missions, but (to his way of thinking) the most important topic he expounded was the literal reality of hell. These were some of his words, recorded at the time of a mission to children. Just imagine how a crowd of little tots would feel!
"You are going to see again the child about which you heard in the Terrible Judgement, that it was condemned to hell. See! It is a pitiful sight. The little child is in this red-hot oven. Hear how it screams to come out. See how it turns and twists itself about in the fire of the oven. It stamps its little feet on the floor of the oven. You can see on the face of the little child what you see on all the faces in hell - despair, desperate and horrible!"
And who propagates these horrendous ideas? Is it the world? No, it's the church of Jesus Christ. It is only within the Christian church that one finds belief in such diabolical imagery. If we, as Christians, desire to represent God to those who as yet express no faith, then we should seek to get our facts right before setting out to evangelise the world. Judgement is one thing, but the thought of everlasting conscious torment is quite another thing, and should be purged from Christian thought. There is a real judgement, there is a real hell, there are those who will be excluded from God's Kingdom, to spend time in "outer darkness", but all God's judgements are purgative, refining, and purifying, not endless and hopeless, because He is the Author of LIFE, not destruction.
[P.S. Kathryn Lindskoog has been a fearless author of many books, and possesses the same clarity of vision as C.S.Lewis for exposing third-class thinking, tom-foolery and chicanery. She lives in California and is now crippled with MS, hardly able to use her hands to type. In a recent letter she has asked for prayer support at this time. Looking after her is the full-time occupation for her husband John. As the Lord leads, please remember them in your prayers.]
Jesus is Lord...**** **** **** **** **** ****
Dear Jesus:
Thank You for the sacrifice You made for me on the cross.
Please forgive me for all of my past sins.I repent of these sins,
and with Your help, I will change and not repeat them again.
I know I am not worthy; but, I willingly accept You in my heart
as my Lord and my Savior,and I thank You for Your blessings
over my family and me!
Read this prayer and, then read it again outloud,
this time NOT with head knowledge,
but with heart knowledge, believe it in FAITH.
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Please share this with everyone you know!Send to all unsaved souls too!
http://www.av1611.org/hell.html
mad dog
12-30-2003, 04:44 PM
That is some funny sh** there is no hell Only one God even the Bible tells this. So if there is only one God how can there be a Hell with another God? Oh and if these folks did open up the gates of hell then why hasn't satan taken over, after all now humans have found him why not come out and take over? Thanks for the story it would make an interesting horror movie.
mad dog
12-30-2003, 04:48 PM
I forgot something
Borg
sssshheeeeeeeeeee'ssssssssssss.............back
LionelHutz
12-30-2003, 05:23 PM
See Borg, now you have proof. The Fins found hell a few years ago.
BorgHunter
12-30-2003, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by LionelHutz
See Borg, now you have proof. The Fins found hell a few years ago.
Yes, and my father is the ghost of George Washington.
And the following is directed to Sarah:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously, read this (http://www.snopes.com/religion/wellhell.htm). Then, give me some proof of the "Rapture" not using the Bible as a source. I'll wait.
...
There is none, is there? I thought so. Now, tell me why I should believe the Bible over, say, The Lord of the Rings. Or 1942. Or any other fiction book in publication. I bet you can't come up with any except making the unsubstanciated claim that the Bible is "the word of God." What evidence do you have of that? None, you say?
I rest my case.
/too easy
LionelHutz
12-30-2003, 10:15 PM
I'm guessing that you're not going to get much of a debate on this. Just some more cool symbols. $$$###&###$$$
Mopoloton
12-30-2003, 11:26 PM
I cant believe she actually responded! I thought this was just another scam artist using religion to get rich. Its sometimes hard to root these people out.
sarah rose
12-31-2003, 02:08 AM
Thought Id share some Interesting Photos Folks!May God water your faith with living water!I pray your Faith grows deep roots in Jesus Name...
Weather satellite picture
of the LORD Jehovah Jesus.
Notice the lighted cross that appears
across His forehead and
down the bridge of His nose.
http://www.whatsaiththescripture.com/WStS.Jehovah.html
Photos Of Jesus In The Sky etc.
http://carmenspage.homestead.com/jesuscloud~ie4.html
DrewM
12-31-2003, 03:41 AM
Hilarious !
So, a random cloud formation is Jesus and proves it all huh?
I saw a cloud formation today - it looked like a dog pissing up a tree. What does this mean?
I especially like the stuff about the screaming sounds of the people in hell recorded in deep ocean caves and deep drilling. Now that is comedy.
Sarah - you have taken the notion of being brainwashed up to a whole new plateau - congratulations on this achievement :)
LionelHutz
12-31-2003, 09:36 AM
That cloud is supposed to be Jesus? I think the virgin Mary they found in the mirrored glass building many years ago was more apparent than this.
Sarah, since I'm a Christian, I'm probably more qualified to say this than others on this board, but I think God would want you to do something more productive with the life he gave you.
sarah rose
12-31-2003, 01:41 PM
I send Love,and Light to each,and everyone of you!Folks we are in the last days! Please dont be left behind.The rapture will happen in a blink of they eye,and the spirits will fly.Its time to strap on your seatbelts!The weather,earthquakes,and electromagnetic waves are going to accelerate.
The rapture: When all the believers in Jesus Christ, who have been born again, are taken up to heaven.
http://www.raptureletters.com
Information For Those Left Behind
http://www.raptureready.com
Dear Jesus:
Thank You for the sacrifice You made for me on the cross.
Please forgive me for all of my past sins.I repent of these sins,
and with Your help, I will change and not repeat them again.
I know I am not worthy; but, I willingly accept You in my heart
as my Lord and my Savior,and I thank You for Your blessings
over my family and me!
Read this prayer and, then read it again outloud,
this time NOT with head knowledge,
but with heart knowledge, believe it in FAITH.
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I am doing Gods work!This could be your last chance...Dont be Left Behind! Now Is The Time!
silverbulletkc
12-31-2003, 01:56 PM
Ok....I am a Catholic, I go to church every so often, and I try to be as good-spirited to everyone as much as possible......however, I like to keep it to myself and tolerare others, rather than force my beliefs on them. I don't think that bragging about what you believe is going to make you any better of a religious guru than I or anyone else on this forum. So instead of talking about how "rapture" is coming, why not go out and live what's left of your life to the fullest. You're just wasting time by talking about it.
es347fan
12-31-2003, 02:32 PM
the sky is falling ! ... the sky is falling !....
DrewM
12-31-2003, 02:56 PM
I guess all the crackpots get raptured away (to the loony bin no doubt).
I would prefer to be one of those left behind - it would be too irritating to be holed up with that crazy bunch.
Sarah - I think in 40 years when you are still here - you will look back with disapointment that you sunk so much belief into so much well..rubbish.
BorgHunter
12-31-2003, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by DrewM
Sarah - I think in 40 years when you are still here - you will look back with disapointment that you sunk so much belief into so much well..rubbish.
I doubt it. The brainwashed tend to stay brainwashed. (Maybe if this is all due to heroin use, then she could mellow out in old age) But the cloud thing...that is absolutely hilarious.
DrewM
12-31-2003, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by BorgHunter
I doubt it. The brainwashed tend to stay brainwashed. (Maybe if this is all due to heroin use, then she could mellow out in old age) But the cloud thing...that is absolutely hilarious.
Yep you are right.
sputnik
12-31-2003, 06:51 PM
OH MY LORD! A RANDOM CLOUD FORMATION THAT COULD POSSIBLY, IF YOU HAVE BEEN SMOKING POT LATELY, LOOK A LITTLE LIKE JESUS! I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT!
sarah rose
01-01-2004, 02:51 AM
I am just sharing information 010101010 atcg.....Its way beyond connecting the dots!Oh yeah thanks for the professionalism,and for being so interesting in this group.I think I even saw a reply that was more than 3 lines.
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This is some very interesting reading!Share your thoughts!
Cave of Treasures
Apocalyptic Literature
http://www.piney.com/ApocalypticIndex.html
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DrewM
01-01-2004, 03:11 AM
Sarah - what gives on all the weird characters in your posts? I think I saw the face of Jesus in one of them.
It would help us understand you more if you gave us a summary of how you arrived at your current mindset.
At least admit that these beliefs are a bit off the wall. Many of the posts may be short - but what do you expect when you post info about cloud formations being Jesus? I mean come on...
Do understand that the chances of converting anybody here to your thinking is very low - you will certaintly find some better pickings at the local asylum. Those places are filled with people who would find a new meaning in life from your info & they would make excellent room mates at the rapture hotel after the big day arrives.
sarah rose
01-01-2004, 03:29 AM
Interesting part of History Folk's!
Noah's Ark,and Earth History!
http://www.nwcreation.net/noahsark.html
Is Noah's Ark on Mt. Ararat ?
http://www.arkonararat.com
...Happy New Year!
BorgHunter
01-01-2004, 07:57 AM
OK, Sarah is either illiterate, and thus can't read our posts, or she doesn't really know why she's so whacked out and thus can only post more of the same stupid drivel. Please, Sarah, just stop posting the links and talk to US. YOU talk to us, not copy-and-paste links from some crackpot sites.
sputnik
01-01-2004, 01:45 PM
sarah, about the scientists finding hell, that's an urban legend.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_cul4.htm
religioustolerance.org has a whole list of these "christian urban legends." very interesting, actually.
DrewM
01-01-2004, 02:00 PM
That is an interesting link.
So Sarah - hope that doesn't crush too many beliefs - but I can't imagine you really believed in the screams from hell down a drill hole
URNowLex'd
01-10-2004, 02:10 PM
wow I thought this post was a joke until she came back with her responses. Im glad Sarah has something to believe in but i think it has past belief into obsession. But hey to each their own. Seriously what it up with those wierd characters?
mad dog
01-12-2004, 08:19 AM
Sarah when is everything going to end, what day, year, month etc...?
ugababe117
01-12-2004, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by LionelHutz
This is why people don't take Christians seriously.
Because it's over your head?
ugababe117
01-12-2004, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by mad dog
Sarah when is everything going to end, what day, year, month etc...?
Nobody knows
mad dog
01-12-2004, 04:46 PM
If no one knows, then how do they know it will end at all? Science tells that the world will probably die out in 5+ billion years. Religion claims alot of stuff, where is the proof? Atleast with science we can have some understanding of why, when, how. What does your idea of religion say or prove?
LionelHutz
01-12-2004, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by ugababe117
Because it's over your head?
Well that kind of attitude will certainly bring more into the flock. :rolleyes: No, Ugababe, I too am a christian (or perhaps more precisely, a Lutheran). But converting Christianity into a "spot Jesus in the pizza" game isn't going to lead to a rash on conversions.
biochemgirl
01-13-2004, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by mad dog
If no one knows, then how do they know it will end at all? Science tells that the world will probably die out in 5+ billion years. Religion claims alot of stuff, where is the proof? Atleast with science we can have some understanding of why, when, how. What does your idea of religion say or prove?
I totally agree with you. Major scientific truths are based on theories that have been tested thoroughly enough to be considered scientific law. I see no proof of god the same way I cannot see atoms. The difference is I can put two known chemicals together and get some sort of physical or thermodynamic change to take place. In the end I have data supporting the fact that atoms and molecules exist. Wheres the data supporting the existence of God?
mad dog
01-13-2004, 07:21 AM
I believe in a God I just don't believe in trying to predict what he/she/it as in store for us. I don't understand how some folks out there can walk around and say "this is the end just look at the signs". I also believe science and religion (or beliefs) can work side by side. Someday science may prove a God or it may not. If there is a God then he/she/it would be way more advanced then our thoughts can go.
silverbulletkc
01-13-2004, 05:56 PM
You know what everybody...whether it's the second coming or the sun melting us all in 5 billion+ years.....IT'S GONNA END SOMEDAY ANYWAY!!!! So why not stop talking about who's right and wrong about who or what's gonna end life on earth and get on with our lives before we all die anyway!!!
Mopoloton
01-15-2004, 06:15 PM
What proof do the scientists have to support their theory? Do they know for sure the earth will end in 5 billion+ years?
mad dog
01-16-2004, 10:24 AM
Do you know for sure you could kick a bears arse? Oh and I'm not talking about winnie the pooh or a cub, I want you to fight a 400 lb healthy black bear
Mopoloton
01-18-2004, 03:37 PM
I dont see what that has to do with this topic, but yes, I am fairly sure I can take down any man or animal. Ive proven it several times before.
sputnik
01-18-2004, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by Mopoloton
I dont see what that has to do with this topic, but yes, I am fairly sure I can take down any man or animal. Ive proven it several times before.
uhm, i ain't arguing with you. but i can't really understand WHY you would want to prove it.
BorgHunter
01-18-2004, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by Mopoloton
I dont see what that has to do with this topic, but yes, I am fairly sure I can take down any man or animal. Ive proven it several times before.
You can take down a body builder? What about some sort of hungry feline, such as a lion or tiger (or bear, oh my!)? And I'm talking hand to...paw, without a stick or a gun and such things.
Also, is your ego so inflated that you feel the need to prove this? WTF does it matter?
HaVoK
01-18-2004, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by BorgHunter
You can take down a body builder? What about some sort of hungry feline, such as a lion or tiger (or bear, oh my!)? And I'm talking hand to...paw, without a stick or a gun and such things.
Also, is your ego so inflated that you feel the need to prove this? WTF does it matter? Havent you figured out yet that Mopoloton is one of two things? He is either: (1) a raving lunatic, or (2) a liar who is trying to stir up emotions by saying the most revolting, idiotic things imaginable
mad dog
01-19-2004, 05:47 AM
Originally posted by Mopoloton
I dont see what that has to do with this topic, but yes, I am fairly sure I can take down any man or animal. Ive proven it several times before.
:D :D :D :D :D Thanks Mopo I needed a good laugh
silverbulletkc
01-20-2004, 10:25 AM
Oh God...not the mopo vs. bear BS again...
sarah rose
01-21-2004, 12:18 AM
Matthew 24:37
37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
Isaiah 54
17 no weapon forged against you will prevail,
and you will refute every tongue that accuses you.
This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD ,
and this is their vindication from me,"
declares the LORD .
Here is an interesting website from Tbn
http://rulestheweb.com/coolwebsites
God works in Mysterious ways,and no man knows it all!I learn more everyday.Have you guys read the book of Enoch yet?Its really interesting to say the least.
biochemgirl
01-21-2004, 12:55 AM
Am I supposed to see Jesus in that picture too?:D
mad dog
01-21-2004, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by sarah rose
Matthew 24:37
37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
For the most part I think Noah as been proven to only happen in a small part of the world.
38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark;
Where were you when we had the earthquake back in 89(?)?Where will you be the next time a tornato touches down? What were the folks doing when the planes hit the towers?
39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away.
disasters happen all the time, this does not mean God is/was pi**ed. Show me where YOU can predict the next bad disaster, and not be surprised????
40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
Many folks will be trapped in a burning building the rescuers will die and some of the people will get out. Many planes will take off in the morning but a few will crash.
17 no weapon forged against you will prevail,
and you will refute every tongue that accuses you.
This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD ,
and this is their vindication from me,"
declares the LORD .
Books written by humans, have yet to hear God get on the load speaker?
God works in Mysterious ways,and no man knows it all!I learn more everyday..
{1} I do agree God works is mysterious ways, and that man knows very little.
{2}I find it hard to believe you learn anything, with your going to hell if you don't see it my way additude. How can you learn anything when you keep telling everyone they are wrong. Take a look in the mirror before you claim to be one of Gods helpers.
silverbulletkc
01-21-2004, 09:23 AM
Wow, she's pretty persistent, don't you think??
Mopoloton
01-21-2004, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by silverbulletkc
Oh God...not the mopo vs. bear BS again...
I wasn't the one who brought it up. Also, as far as proving it goes, I was referring to my job; Ive had to take down a lot of violent men, and I just figure taking down a bear isnt much different. To answer Borgs question, bodybuilders arent as tough as they look, having an impressive physique doesnt help you in a fight.
silverbulletkc
01-21-2004, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Mopoloton
I wasn't the one who brought it up.
I wasn't either...what's your point? By the way, do a lot of the violent men you've wrestled to the ground weigh about 700 lbs or more?
southernboy823
01-21-2004, 08:36 PM
I think they make pills for people like her. Sheesh! I'd rather open the door to a Jehova's Witness than to listen to someone like that!!
BorgHunter
01-21-2004, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by southernboy823
I think they make pills for people like her. Sheesh! I'd rather open the door to a Jehova's Witness than to listen to someone like that!!
Yup. Ritalin, lithium, and if all else fails, a good ol' fashioned straitjacket.
mad dog
01-22-2004, 06:57 AM
Mopo there is no way possible you could win against a full grown healthy bear, with your bare hands. Not even a black bear, they would tear your arse apart so quick you wouldn't even have time to relize what the heck was happening.
As to your comment about beating up tough guys, keep thinking that way, cause someday someone will put you in your place.
Mopoloton
01-22-2004, 11:05 PM
Silverbulletkc- Mad dog is the one who keeps bringing up the bear topic, so tell HIM to give it a rest, not me. Some of the guys I faced LOOKED like they could have weighed 700lbs, but I dont know for sure; it was the nurses job to weigh them.
Mad dog- Ive never actually faced a bear so theres no way to know for sure who would win, I just know I have extreme confidence in myself.
mad dog
01-23-2004, 07:36 AM
OK Mopo glad to see you have confidense in yourself. I won't bring up the bear thing again..............or atleast not until the next time :D :D