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President George W. Bush used his final Three Amigos summit yesterday to offer a morale boost for a North American free-trade agreement facing increased skepticism from Democratic presidential hopefuls.

So if Cananda and Mexico are for NAFTA, and the Dems are against it, wont that be making them mad at us? Isnt making countries mad at us one of the worst sins?

McCain has no intentions of touching it and shamed the Democrats for discussing it. Thats because McCain is willing to fight NAFTA rhetoric now.
I certainly want to hear more about it. (positive)

NAFTA should be renegotiated at the very least.
It has become short hand for our trade policies which are not good for the U.S. even though it is really GATT and our trade policies that cause the damage.

NAFTA should be renegotiated at the very least.
It has become short hand for our trade policies which are not good for the U.S. even though it is really GATT and our trade policies that cause the damage.
what parts don't you like?

I'm not real thrilled about Mexican trucks on American roads, but it's more about the drivers not being able to afford to eat, and most of those trucks were sent south because they were too crappy to pass an inspection up here.

what parts don't you like?

I'm not real thrilled about Mexican trucks on American roads, but it's more about the drivers not being able to afford to eat, and most of those trucks were sent south because they were too crappy to pass an inspection up here.

Where do I start?

In general, I do not like that we have lowered our standards for labor and international trade so much and that we allow imports from and outsourcing to countries with low or nonexistent labor, safety and environmental standards just because it saves us a few pennies at the local Walmart.

I don't like the fact that if we export a car to Japan they put a 22-28% import tariff on it but when they import a car over here we only put a ~2% import tariff on it. They are protecting their jobs and we are not. Who's auto industry is doing better as a whole?

I don't like the fact that we, as a labor force, are now forced to compete for jobs with countries that use slave labor or who's people are so poor that they are willing to work for a fraction of what I require just to pay my bills. Even for the supposedly "high tech", "new millennium" jobs that were supposed to be created in our new "service economy", (the ones people were "retrained" for back in the early 1990s) like computer programming and engineering, are being outsourced to foreign companies.

Basically, right now anything that can be done from a desk, can (and will eventually, if things don't change) be outsourced. I do not like that.

Where do I start?

In general, I do not like that we have lowered our standards for labor and international trade so much and that we allow imports from and outsourcing to countries with low or nonexistent labor, safety and environmental standards just because it saves us a few pennies at the local Walmart.

I don't like the fact that if we export a car to Japan they put a 22-28% import tariff on it but when they import a car over here we only put a ~2% import tariff on it. They are protecting their jobs and we are not. Who's auto industry is doing better as a whole?

I don't like the fact that we, as a labor force, are now forced to compete for jobs with countries that use slave labor or who's people are so poor that they are willing to work for a fraction of what I require just to pay my bills. Even for the supposedly "high tech", "new millennium" jobs that were supposed to be created in our new "service economy", (the ones people were "retrained" for back in the early 1990s) like computer programming and engineering, are being outsourced to foreign companies.

Basically, right now anything that can be done from a desk, can (and will eventually, if things don't change) be outsourced. I do not like that.
ok, only one of those has anything to do with NAFTA, and only Mexico...marginally.

ok, only one of those has anything to do with NAFTA, and only Mexico...marginally.

Yeah, I know. As I already said in post #4, NAFTA has become shorthand for the things that are wrong with our trade policies in general.

Canada is ready to make the Democrats regret there rhetoric about NAFTA in thier complaining and now they don't have a chance at winning. Who will vote for no electricity, no fuel, and no to soon to be clean water from Canada.

The Liberals in Canada threatened to cut the Oil supply to the USA when they where in power and Canada saw its power over the US.

Whats needed now is an open border with Canada or you'll perish. Or vote McCain I guess.


The US right now eats allot of Mad Cows and it shows.

Canada is ready to make the Democrats regret there rhetoric about NAFTA in thier complaining and now they don't have a chance at winning. Who will vote for no electricity, no fuel, and no to soon to be clean water from Canada.

The Liberals in Canada threatened to cut the Oil supply to the USA when they where in power and Canada saw its power over the US.

Whats needed now is an open border with Canada or you'll perish. Or vote McCain I guess.


The US right now eats allot of Mad Cows and it shows.


Yea..right like that threat would be carried out --NEWS FLASH ....most of the investment is from US oil ..who would pay the bills? ...so that plan is flawed:lolhit: