And calling someone ignorant is so original right? It really does not matter what you think is good or bad anyway. Let us get back to the topic at hand. You seemed to imply that species evolve only as a way to increase the chances of procreation. I disagree. There seems to be no real reasons for anything to evolve, it is just a series of mistakes that lead to changes. Implying there is a goal to evolution suggests there is a plan.
Trav, evolution does not occur unless a specific mutation has some sort of positive effect on the ability of an individual to either survive long enough to procreate, or to complete the act of procreation. This is what drives evolution. "A series of mistakes that lead to changes" is a gross oversimplification. It is a series of random events that interact in a non-random way.

And calling someone ignorant is so original right?
The argument from ignorance, is a logical fallacy in which it is claimed that a premise is true only because it has not been proven false or is only false because it has not been proven true.

If that is true, then homosexuality is a negative mutation and won't last in the long term. I mean, if the ultimate goal in life is procreation then going through the motions with a member of the same sex that results in nothing is a bad mutation. 50 million years from now there may be no gays. No offense to any gay people, as I have no probelm with them.

anyway, I see what you are saying. Nature only keeps the good mutations that benefit a species. But why do animals have the urge to procreate? I mean, animals ahve no awareness of time or even of themselves, what would force them to want to keep the species alive? Something in their brain is telling them to, how did it get there?

If that is true, then homosexuality is a negative mutation and won't last in the long term. I mean, if the ultimate goal in life is procreation then going through the motions with a member of the same sex that results in nothing is a bad mutation. 50 million years from now there may be no gays. No offense to any gay people, as I have no probelm with them
Your premise, that homosexuality is genetic, is by no means true. My mom was a lesbian. I'm straight. And I'm betting that most gay people have straight parents.
anyway, I see what you are saying. Nature only keeps the good mutations that benefit a species. But why do animals have the urge to procreate? I mean, animals ahve no awareness of time or even of themselves, what would force them to want to keep the species alive? Something in their brain is telling them to, how did it get there?
Evolution. Animals evolved so that sex feels good, for precisely the reason you said. If sex was painful or indifferent, animals would never desire to do it, and would never procreate. Hence they'd die off.

Homosexuality is as old as humanity itself. Older, even, because many animals practice it. It may well be a byproduct of the pleasurable sex evolution.

Homosexuality is as old as humanity itself.
Even older. There are documented cases of homosexual behavior in many different species.

So it is just a minor negative mutation, that could evolve itself out of existence?

So it is just a minor negative mutation, that could evolve itself out of existence?
You really should be asking a professor of biology this question, not random blokes on the Internet. All I can do is point you to the Wikipedia page. Nobody really knows as of yet what causes it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#Why_some_people_are_gay_or_lesbian

So it is just a minor negative mutation, that could evolve itself out of existence?
Trav. As I just said, homosexuality is not wholly genetic. There may be a genetic susceptibility, but there is definitely a non-genetic component. Evolution has to do with genes, not behaviors learned in early childhood.

Wait a minute Borg, I thought homosexuality was genetic, something you were born with, now you are saying it is learned?

Wait a minute Borg, I thought homosexuality was genetic, something you were born with, now you are saying it is learned?
Current research suggests that sexual orientation is more or less "set" in your first five years on Earth. Identical twins sometimes have different orientations.

So, homosexuality is genetic except when it isn't. Ooooookay.

So, homosexuality is genetic except when it isn't. Ooooookay.
Straw men are so easy to debate with, eh?

A straw man would be an argument I made up in order to argue for or against it. Merely restating what you have said, using different words is not creating a straw man.