The New Age teachers love to use this word a lot. Along with "enlightenment".

Like the believers can't wait to get the hell out of this world and become something "higher" or "more evolved". Like they look at everything around them with contempt or something.

Perhaps appeal to people's hidden superiority complex is one of the most effective marketing strategy in a New Age belief? I mean, believing you are a higher being surely makes a person feel more superior than having more money and power and even better health than other people, right?

Oh man. Back when I used to buy into all that new age crap, I sat around thinking about those two words a lot, trying to figure out what they mean, wondering how far along I was to enlightenment, speculating about the "spiritual levels" of the people I knew. What a load of crap.

You're exactly right, Dio. But that's not all there is to it! The very best practical way for a guru to bring you to enlightenment is in the throes of sexual release!

Hey, maybe we should be gurus...

kind of like most religions.
religion has its root word in regiment. to control.
christian, jewish, and islamic beliefs is rooted in the belief that we are all worms spiritually and have to kiss gods ass to get somewhere. and thus submit. grovel, whine, and feel guilty.
new age is on the other spectrum. manipulating the feel good thingy and you can fly higher. but still rooted in being "low".
i'd rather see myself as on the same level as everything in the universe, even "god" or whatever that is. but i do believe in spirits but in more of the ancestor "worship" and guidance. but nothing in my beliefs is based on inferiority, or superiority.

The New Age teachers love to use this word a lot. Along with "enlightenment".

Like the believers can't wait to get the hell out of this world and become something "higher" or "more evolved". Like they look at everything around them with contempt or something.

Perhaps appeal to people's hidden superiority complex is one of the most effective marketing strategy in a New Age belief? I mean, believing you are a higher being surely makes a person feel more superior than having more money and power and even better health than other people, right?

:) Dio, What you posted above was fun and very interesting! I am one of the three or four people in the world today that are doing the ascension meditations. Four counting me actually.

Dio do you have a place on the internet that/where these folks are telling others how this is done :) ? This I have got to see. Nobody I know that is actually doing it, is selling this information or even telling others how it is done.

Input Dio :) I am interested.

tuck

Oh man. Back when I used to buy into all that new age crap, I sat around thinking about those two words a lot, trying to figure out what they mean, wondering how far along I was to enlightenment, speculating about the "spiritual levels" of the people I knew. What a load of crap.

You're exactly right, Dio. But that's not all there is to it! The very best practical way for a guru to bring you to enlightenment is in the throes of sexual release!

Hey, maybe we should be gurus...

Hi Napster :) You are way too much fun!

Love you!

tuck

kind of like most religions.
religion has its root word in regiment. to control.
christian, jewish, and islamic beliefs is rooted in the belief that we are all worms spiritually and have to kiss gods ass to get somewhere. and thus submit. grovel, whine, and feel guilty.
new age is on the other spectrum. manipulating the feel good thingy and you can fly higher. but still rooted in being "low".
i'd rather see myself as on the same level as everything in the universe, even "god" or whatever that is. but i do believe in spirits but in more of the ancestor "worship" and guidance. but nothing in my beliefs is based on inferiority, or superiority.

Hi Man :) It turns out that you have to get over kissing God's butt to ascend :) No "butt" kissers get to do that/ascend :)

Man, there is hope for you my son :)

Love you!

tuck :)

"Ascention" is a topic that I have been wanting to talk about on the internet someplace for awhile now. And Dio seems to have let the cat out of the bag :) That dog gone Dio :) !

Basically, the only one who can actually teach this stuff to you is an immortal. And I am not at this time an immortal :) Ok?

It turns out that the "human brain" has some abilities that most nobody ever uses. And waking up these abilities is an interesting challenge to say the least. One might even say that these abilities are sleeping.

We as a human mind percieve reality relative to "four dimensions" if one includes "time" as a dimension. Time is not actually a dimension. Time is the creator of dimensions. And "time" is the result of movement. No movement no time.

Now no two objects can occupy the same place at the same time. But if an object is moving facter than the speed of light, then it is nolonger in the same time. :) At least relative to the physics of things.

At this point it should be mentioned that something in a different "time frame", relative to velocity, can effect things in a neighboring "time frame velocity" if their relative "time frame velocities" are not to many "time frames velocities" apart. As an example, things from close "time frame velocities" passing through our sun can heat our sun up. And there is not anything that we can do about it.

Everything in creation is made up of different "time frame velocities" mingling with each other and the affect that this mingling has on all that is being mingled. So anyway guys your bodies of made up of the result of mingling "time frame velocities.

And once your brain is woke up to the point that you can have a look at this "mingling" stuff, it is all pretty amazing :) !

tuck :)

Guys we all know that me posting stuff about Ascention and that kind of religious stuff/crap on AllForums.net is not appreciated. At the sametime I am an awkward child and I do not want to be anywhere on the internet but here on AllForums.net. :) the Amins should of banned me a long time ago and I would have understood. But now I will never give them a reason. :) and I do love this messageboard. And I do love you guys and love being here!

tucker58 :)

There are three steps: Extended Life Span; Immortality; and Ascension.

The meditations (focuses) are different. But :) they are in a row. Immortality and Ascention require help from someone that is immortal and that can ascend if they wish to (one does not actually have to ascend). Or some one who is immortal and has ascended. There are rules.

Anybody can run extended life spans. You are good until you get bored :)

Extended life spans do not actually require waking up your mind. It just requires that you simulate your life centers. Right now medical science is trying to figure out how to do it with drugs or implanting "legally" dead (fetus) baby parts (which by the way work very well!).

tuck

one thing i hate about feel good fluffy bunny way pagans is they refuse to look at all aspects of the faith. birth, sex, and death.
they like to only look at the birth part.
basic, YOU ARE GONNA FUCKING DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you will one day be worm food.
but hey, at least the spirit lives on.

"Source"---

The ancient Mystery Religions taught that even the Gods could understand only a little of the glorious Light that was their source of being. (from "The Ancient and Shining Ones" by D. J. Conway)

Cool huh. I have also come to the same conclusion, that there is a Universal Source. You said it nicely (john). The Jews say that there is a something above God. (that is what the Mason's All Seeing Eye represents.) The Jews call this Source the Ein Sof, which literally means "without end", denoting "boundlessness" and/or "nothingness". (wikipedia)

The Tao call it the Tao. Here is a verse from the Tao Te Ching---

The Tao doesn't take sides
It gives birth to both good and evil
The Master doesn't take sides
She welcomes both Saints and sinners

The Tao is like a bellows
It is empty yet infinitely capable
The more you use it, the more it produces
The more you talk of it, the less you understand

Hold on to the center
---Verse #5 from the Tao Te Ching, translation by Steven Michael

The above is from an e-mail that I recieved from a a friend.

tuck

Guys, as an extremely advanced mystic yogi fellow, I have a a dilemma (besides the fact that I drink and ale or two :) )

Every human being on the planet can be attached to the "Source". It matters not that they are good or bad or that they actually believe in God or "a god" or not. And all immortals are attached to the "Source".

And the problem is that becoming attached to the "Source" is way to simple.

Yes the "Source" is a bit tricky when it comes to playing with "It", but if one just wants to be immortal in a physical reality, things are actually very simple. Anybody who truely wants to can do it. Even Napster can be immortal, in a physical sense, on this planet Earth, if he wishes to be.

I have posted all over the internet that I think that no information should be secret. But that is/was before "Holy Shit!" Who knew!

The whole thing scares me. Input? Does anybody here think that "how" this can be done, in a simple way, should be posted here on the internet?

Guys, I really need some input and am not sure what to do.

Six billion or so immortals on one planet is something that I do not want to be responsible for. My problem is that I studied this stuff so that everybody could know. It is just that I really didn't think that it was real. I think we need some wiser minds (yours) to prevail. Input? It is your world also :) Should I or shouldn't I?

Love!

john/tuck acaveyogi

mystics are lazy fucks who don't get life. you are born, learn, get laid, get dirty, have kids, grow old, and fucking die.
mystics spend way too much time staring at their navels. get dirty.

Guys, as an extremely advanced mystic yogi fellow, I have a a dilemma (besides the fact that I drink and ale or two :) )

Every human being on the planet can be attached to the "Source". It matters not that they are good or bad or that they actually believe in God or "a god" or not. And all immortals are attached to the "Source".

And the problem is that becoming attached to the "Source" is way to simple.

Yes the "Source" is a bit tricky when it comes to playing with "It", but if one just wants to be immortal in a physical reality, things are actually very simple. Anybody who truely wants to can do it. Even Napster can be immortal, in a physical sense, on this planet Earth, if he wishes to be.

I have posted all over the internet that I think that no information should be secret. But that is/was before "Holy Shit!" Who knew!

The whole thing scares me. Input? Does anybody here think that "how" this can be done, in a simple way, should be posted here on the internet?

Guys, I really need some input and am not sure what to do.

Six billion or so immortals on one planet is something that I do not want to be responsible for. My problem is that I studied this stuff so that everybody could know. It is just that I really didn't think that it was real. I think we need some wiser minds (yours) to prevail. Input? It is your world also :) Should I or shouldn't I?

Love!

john/tuck acaveyogi
Can you ask the exact question you are asking again, in one sentence?

Can you ask the exact question you are asking again, in one sentence?

Dio you are a man after my own heart :) I love your challenge!

Physical Immortality is as easy as hooking up to "Dish TV", but with no cost/money needed.

Love you!

john

mystics are lazy fucks who don't get life. you are born, learn, get laid, get dirty, have kids, grow old, and fucking die.
mystics spend way too much time staring at their navels. get dirty.

Hi man :) Your input is always very wise and is always appreciated!

Lets get dirty :)

Love you!

tuck/john

i always loved how the lakota medicine man lame deer put it, "you gotta crawl with worms to fly with eagles."
keep in mind, indians love fucking with the heads of people who have no connection to their own past. they know these people are lost kids and will fuck with their heads. it's been going on for some time. even "black elk" screwed with people. he is telling people how indians/lakota pray, pointing a pipe in this direction and that, saying the right words, etc.,etc.,etc. and after the ethno walks away thinking he has this great knowledge to write a book about this great mystic indian thing that no one else knew, black elk was laughing up his sleeve.

i always loved how the lakota medicine man lame deer put it, "you gotta crawl with worms to fly with eagles."
keep in mind, indians love fucking with the heads of people who have no connection to their own past. they know these people are lost kids and will fuck with their heads. it's been going on for some time. even "black elk" screwed with people. he is telling people how indians/lakota pray, pointing a pipe in this direction and that, saying the right words, etc.,etc.,etc. and after the ethno walks away thinking he has this great knowledge to write a book about this great mystic indian thing that no one else knew, black elk was laughing up his sleeve.

Man, I do love your wisdom :) and it makes perfect sense to me. First off all true wisdom can not be put into words, it can only, over time, be experienced and understood. Second :) true wisdom always changes and is a process that is never static, but constanly grows. Today's wisdom is old news.

"Crawl with the worms to fly with the eagles." One has to understand powerlessness to understand power. And once one does that, power ceases to exist as a concept. And one becomes truely free to be a "primative man". One just "is" and nothing else. And "is" is where it is happening.

Black Elk was a very wise person and he knew that he was a "dog and pony show". And that the joke was on them. :)

Love you!

tuck

As a side note: Guys, one goes to a wise person, who is a man or a woman, it becomes, "What is one's motivation?"

If you feel important because you have met this wise person, then they (this wise person) are just a "dog and pony show." And if they (this wise person) are actually wise, they will see you coming :)

"Is this person real as a seeker of wisdom? Or do they just want to feel important in the eyes of others because they have met me?" If they just want to feel important in the eyes of others, because they have met me, then I am just a "dog and pony show". And the joke is on them, if I am truly a wise person. :)

Black Elk was truly a wise person. And the joke was on them. :)

Love!

tuck

and knowing what power is , you can spine walk someone easily. but don't get arrogant about it. let it flow.

and knowing what power is , you can spine walk someone easily. but don't get arrogant about it. let it flow.

Hi man, was you posted was well said. Handling power is an interesting concept. And generally one would think that handling power would be frought with peril. But it seems that some people just have the charm and can do what ever they want to and nothing sticks to them. Others do nothing but get themselves in trouble.

To power or not to power :) that is the question?

It seems to me as a mystic that one reaches a point where you just want to be a worm and to hell with being an eagle. A worm in the garden of God. And to be honest I am not sure how one does that just yet. :) Or if they should.

It seems like there is something else that is neither "being" a worm or an eagle. And that this something else is not of this world.

When I started out 34 years ago to be a yogi, I had no idea about where this stuff goes. I had no idea about physical immortality or ascension. To be honest I didn't even think that they existed.

After 28 years and thousand of hours of meditation, Shiva just showed up in my kitchen and that was six years ago. I didn't think that he existed either. And now we are good friends and I would not know what to do without him. Crazy isn't it.

I am probably going to become immortal and ascend. And I am probably going to do it without telling anybody how it is done. And what is funny is that I didn't start out to do that. I started out to bring yogis to Christ :) and now I am bringing nobody to nothing. I am just quietly studing how to leave. I am on allForums.net because I like to have a few beers and bat things around with you guys because you guys are fun.

Love you guys!

tuck

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you know, this is soooooo true.

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you know, this is soooooo true.
Only for folks who don't have a life. :slap: