A BBC World Service Poll suggests a slightly more positive view of the US around the world. It is only a 4% improvement-with 35% of people saying
the US is a positive influence, rather than 31%-but it has been welcomed by
American officals and people alike.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7325658.stm

Not Canada

The international view of the United States has begun to improve, according to a new 34-nation survey done for the BBC.
Canada is an exception, however, one of only three countries surveyed where the impression of the U.S. has worsened in the past year.

Not Canada


Canadians are not appreciative what the US provides to Canada. I've heard the following statement from many Canadians which is an oxymoron:

"I don't agree with the US Foreign Policy or Military actions, however, I do feel safe being next to the US. Its true that we don't have to spend so much on defence since the US is next to us".

explain that...

Well it's nice to know that 1/3 of the world doesn't hate me.

Do you go to high school to be liked.. or to learn?

As far as a nation is concerned, it does what it has to do. There are allies, and you make sure not to piss off the wrong people (China).. but who gives a flying crap if the french, ireland, indonesia, argentina, etc. don't like us... I'm not saying we are right in what we do or wrong.. but you can't worry about that stuff.

$566
$466

That how much money we spent per citizen. The US is on top and Canada on the bottom. I took these numbers US spending 2007 170 billion by US population 300 000 000, and Canada at 14 Billion by a population of 30 000 000

That's allot of money considering we only have one target so ya I feel safer.

I am pro-canada.. not like many americans down here. But you have to admit that they really don't do much, they just enjoy the protection the U.S. gives them, which is fine.

LOL maybe we should start taxing Canadians... and if they don't comply, we tell the terrorists that they shit all over the Qua'ran... a joke of course.

Question:
Does the US protect Canada more so than its European Allies ?

The US does Fuck All

It can all be summed up by this:

Those who are best fit to lead are those who don't want the power to do so.

This is interesting and absolutely true. I think the fact that people are looking forward to regime change in America has something to do with this, but at the same time it is only a blip because people recognize that there will be fundamentally little change in our foreign policy. Not for a while anyway.



"If we have got more respect, I think it's got to do with the other voices, other than the president, who have been making comments about what we should be doing, people like Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and members of Congress who disagree with the actions of our president," said one man in Washington DC.

Asked whether he felt that his country was viewed more positively because people were looking forward to the departure of the current administration, Mr Volker said it would be unfortunate if that was how people saw things.

And, he added, while any of the three remaining presidential hopefuls would bring a new face, there would also be continuity in US foreign policy.

This poll is about as important as an American Idol vote.

I am pro-canada.. not like many americans down here. But you have to admit that they really don't do much, they just enjoy the protection the U.S. gives them, which is fine.

What protection? What fantasy world do you live in? No one's trying to attack Canada.

Seriously, it's embarassing to hear the arragance you exhibit on behalf of our country. If I had to listen to this shit, I would stop liking Americans too.

World opinion is certainly germane in a sense. That is not to say that we should bend to the will of other nations, our sovereignty is then called into serious question.

But, frankly, we are not as powerful (in a relative sense) as we once were. With Europe banding together and China gaining economic strength (legitimately or not), we don't enjoy all of the economic and military leverage that we did even 5-10 years ago. Sure, we're still the big dog in the neighborhood, but eventually that may not be the case, and it would be nice to have a bit of goodwill to use as leverage in future crises and negotiations.

Do you go to high school to be liked.. or to learn?
EXCELLENT question, Decka. That's exactly it.

That said, no one likes their rich and powerful neighbor, and when it comes down to it, that's exactly what we're dealing with here; a scorching case of international resentment and jealousy. We've done more for the world than anyone else, and assholes like CR can't even see how propped up the Canadian industry is by ours. They're fuckin' idiots, I tell ya.

Well I skipped high school all together because I felt it was a complete waste of time...

Well I skipped high school all together because I felt it was a complete waste of time...

Personally, I don't think I appreciated what I learned in high school until I went to college. Hope you had more wisdom than I in high school.

You mean you are out of high school Leper?

Personally, I don't think I appreciated what I learned in high school until I went to college. Hope you had more wisdom than I in high school.

Hell, I'll tag on this and say that I didn't appreciate what I learned in college until well after graduation... funny how getting older makes our hindsight sharper.

What protection? What fantasy world do you live in? No one's trying to attack Canada.

THANK YOU. If I hear the ridiculous argument that Canada is safe because of American protection my head is going to explode. They're safe because they don't give people reason to attack them and they are in a geographically advantageous position. Who's going to attack them? Greenland?

I am pro-canada.. not like many americans down here. But you have to admit that they really don't do much, they just enjoy the protection the U.S. gives them, which is fine.

LOL maybe we should start taxing Canadians... and if they don't comply, we tell the terrorists that they shit all over the Qua'ran... a joke of course.You're a laugh a minute there, Decka.

How many Canadians have died fighting in Afghanistan?

You're a laugh a minute there, Decka.

How many Canadians have died fighting in Afghanistan?

I don't have a stat handy on deaths, but I know that the Canadians were some of the most professional and dedicated soldiers I've served with. They are certainly bringing a lot to our fight.

Personally, I don't think I appreciated what I learned in high school until I went to college. Hope you had more wisdom than I in high school.
Well I took a couple of classes at the high school when I was in middle school, and I surmised that I would basically learn how to sleep in class and get tormented by popular kids... My parents were afraid that I wouldn't learn how to "have a social life" and that I'd miss "important" things like prom (like I was going to go to prom anyways). But really I think that my social life in college is better than it would be in high school, and certainly the academics are more on my level. So overall I think it was a good choice for me.

This is interesting and absolutely true. I think the fact that people are looking forward to regime change in America has something to do with this, but at the same time it is only a blip because people recognize that there will be fundamentally little change in our foreign policy. Not for a while anyway.

Regime change WHERE.?
I hope yer not equating " Regime Change " with our General Election
in the Fall.
Our Country has Never been thru a Regime Change since Washington
crossed the Delaware.
You got Cooties of the Coup d'etat on the body politic.
Ya dude.

You're a laugh a minute there, Decka.

How many Canadians have died fighting in Afghanistan?

None, which is exactly my point.

None, which is exactly my point.You are mis-informed.

I suggest you do a little research.

I suggest you do a little research.

I'll help - 81.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/afghanistan/casualties/list.html

You got Cooties of the Coup d'etat on the body politic.
Ya dude.

You are a word genius. I may not like what you have to say sometime, but I do love reading your posts. Very clever word usage!

I'll help - 81.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/afghanistan/casualties/list.html

While the United States has lost 487.

Measuring per capita, Canadian deaths in Afghanistan have been nearly double ours.

I don't see what you are trying to prove here Sedan.

So Canada did send troops over, probably 1% of what we did.. and they had more guys killed "percentage-wise" than we did. For all the guys we have over there, 487 deaths is a pretty freakin low number.

However, Canada would never declare war on Iraq/Iran/terrorists unless THEY were attacked. They haven't been, so they have no reason to send troops. They just send a lunchbox full to say that they helped.

I don't see what you are trying to prove here Sedan.

So Canada did send troops over, probably 1% of what we did.. and they had more guys killed "percentage-wise" than we did. For all the guys we have over there, 487 deaths is a pretty freakin low number.

However, Canada would never declare war on Iraq/Iran/terrorists unless THEY were attacked. They haven't been, so they have no reason to send troops. They just send a lunchbox full to say that they helped.

His point is that Canadians are dying to protect us, not the other way around. Your disparaging remarks about Canada are WAY out of line, jackass.

However, Canada would never declare war on Iraq/Iran/terrorists unless THEY were attacked. They haven't been, so they have no reason to send troops. They just send a lunchbox full to say that they helped.
Their "lunchbox full" of troops is a much higher percentage of their population than the same amount would be of ours. If you wanted them to send as many troops as we have, that would probably be their entire army or more, which is completely unreasonable and you know it.

Why can't we all just get along?

Why can't we all just get along?

Lol, that isn't really Nappy saying that, is it?

His point is that Canadians are dying to protect us, not the other way around.
EH?

Not Canada

All I have is two words.

Fuck Canada.

What protection? What fantasy world do you live in? No one's trying to attack Canada.

Seriously, it's embarassing to hear the arragance you exhibit on behalf of our country. If I had to listen to this shit, I would stop liking Americans too.


Leper,

No one would attack Canada because they know the U.S. would protect its snow covered neighbor to the north.

Canada is like the little punk in the schoolyard who wants the big, bad boy to watch out for it but then insults that same boy. Canada has one of the most ill equipped militaries in the world. There DART couldn't even send troops or supplies to the tsunami victims until they rented planes from a former communist bloc country. Canada is a pissant country that the U.S. should tell to not count on us to protect them any longer. They have lived in our protective shadow and then insulted us for far too long.

THANK YOU. If I hear the ridiculous argument that Canada is safe because of American protection my head is going to explode. They're safe because they don't give people reason to attack them and they are in a geographically advantageous position. Who's going to attack them? Greenland?

They're safe because they are a bunch of pussies. The most fighting they do is on a hockey rink.

I haven't seen this sort of anger since O/D went on his anti-Canada diatribe.

I've never had anything but an extremely positive experience in Canada and no one has done so much as make a slightly negative comment about Americans. I'm beginning to wonder if you all need to get out more.

I used to love Canada when i was in the military. I was stationed 30 mile away from Canada and underage, so we used to go there and party. We partied all the way From Kingston up to Ottawa and up to Montreal. The people in all of those cities were friendly and helpful. I guess I still do love Canada, I have no reason not to.

Leper,

No one would attack Canada because they know the U.S. would protect its snow covered neighbor to the north.



Frogger,

That's a moot point because Canada doesn't do anything to motivate anyone to attack it.

So the only countries that get attacked are the ones that provoke someone into attacking them? What did Norway and Denmark ever do to Germany?

They're safe because they are a bunch of pussies. The most fighting they do is on a hockey rink.

Yeah, it's much better to be an international badass and be unsafe.

So the only countries that get attacked are the ones that provoke someone into attacking them? What did Norway and Denmark ever do to Germany?

Look at a map. Who's going to attack Canada?

Of course logistically an actual military attack (aside form missiles) is pretty much out of the question. What I said was more based on principal in response to Leper saying no one would attack them because they don't piss anyone off.

Another Question:

What does big brother protect Canada from ?

Of course logistically an actual military attack (aside form missiles) is pretty much out of the question. What I said was more based on principal in response to Leper saying no one would attack them because they don't piss anyone off.

Actually, I said they don't "motivate" anyone to attack them. That includes motivating someone to logistically effectuate such an actual miltitary attack.

After this thread, I suspect the most likely country to attack Canada would be the U.S.

As for Norway and Denmark in WWII, shit if I know why Germany attacked them or anthing else about either country's history - I imagine they attacked for strategic purposes. Look it up if you really want an answer.

After this thread, I suspect the most likely country to attack Canada would be the U.S.

The visual I'm getting of Frogger leading the charge is hilarious! ;)

Another Question:

What does big brother protect Canada from ?
now that the Ruskies can barely feed their army, the only thing they have to worry about is Islamo-wackos figuring out they're America-lite, and a much softer target now.

I don't see what you are trying to prove here Sedan.Only that you're a muttonhead -- and that takes no effort at all.So Canada did send troops over, probably 1% of what we did.. and they had more guys killed "percentage-wise" than we did.So your previous answer of "none" was more than a bit off the mark. For all the guys we have over there, 487 deaths is a pretty freakin low number.It is indeed a praiseworthy number -- unless one of those is a friend or loved one.However, Canada would never declare war on Iraq/Iran/terrorists unless THEY were attacked.They weren't attacked but they are fighting and dying beside us anyway. Since they're fighting when they weren't attacked, isn't it pretty stupid to say they wouldn't fight if they were? Yes, it would be very stupid and that explains why it was you who said it.They haven't been, so they have no reason to send troops. They just send a lunchbox full to say that they helped.I've read elsewhere that you are championing the cause of ignorance.

Good luck with that, you're the perfect man for the job.

I don't dislike the Canadian people. Well, actually there are some I intensely dislike. I do dislike Canada as a nation though. I am sick and tired of having Canadians constantly insult the United States. Since they have bucked the international trend and are even more antagonistic toward the United States than before I say, to hell with them. Canada is our neighbor yet members of the Canadian government have insulted our government on the floor of Parliament. Canadians are always sniping at their neighbor to the south. They have every right to do so but I also have every right to tell them to go to hell.

On a side note, while reading some of these posts, I find it ironic that Canada (along with England) once invaded America and burnt down the White House.

I don't see what you are trying to prove here Sedan.

So Canada did send troops over, probably 1% of what we did.. and they had more guys killed "percentage-wise" than we did. For all the guys we have over there, 487 deaths is a pretty freakin low number.

However, Canada would never declare war on Iraq/Iran/terrorists unless THEY were attacked. They haven't been, so they have no reason to send troops. They just send a lunchbox full to say that they helped.
First, it's closer to 10%, not 1%. Given that the Canadian population is approximately 10% of the US population, they've sent as many troops per capita as we have -- a little more than a lunchbox-full.

You should be thanking them, not bitching about them.

Hey now Frogger, we Americans insult the French all the time and they don't... Oh wait a minute, yes they do hate us. Never mind. :p

They weren't attacked but they are fighting and dying beside us anyway. Since they're fighting when they weren't attacked, isn't it pretty stupid to say they wouldn't fight if they were? Yes, it would be very stupid and that explains why it was you who said it.Okay, now that I've calmed down a bit I see I misunderstood what you said. But it still makes no sense whatsoever. They weren't attacked and yet they are fighting. And dying.

Honestly, Decka, you should be ashamed of yourself.

I am sick and tired of having Canadians constantly insult the United States.

What do Canadians say about us that's any worse than what we say about them? Seems to me the insults are fairly mild in either direction.

Honestly, Decka, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Ashamed of MYSELF???? I feel like I'm in prison and got barraged by a bunch of horny cell bullies and had my intestines penetrated by a 50 car train causing me to never have the ability to emit fecal matter again.

Let me address things here: what i meant, how i'm geing labeled, and how much of an idiot Sedan is.

His point is that Canadians are dying to protect us, not the other way around. Your disparaging remarks about Canada are WAY out of line, jackass.

I wouldn't say "out of line" Leper.. I would say I was wrong. I have no problem saying that, because even though people in here would lead you to believe that their "shit don't stink" and that they are the end all in wisdom of any debate.... people are wrong quite often.

Was I wrong in saying Canada sent no troops? yes.

Was I wrong in saying Canada benefits greatly from being right above us?? I don't think so...

And I'll just let the "jackass" comment speak volumes on its own about your maturity :)

Their "lunchbox full" of troops is a much higher percentage of their population than the same amount would be of ours. If you wanted them to send as many troops as we have, that would probably be their entire army or more, which is completely unreasonable and you know it.

Like i said earlier.. I didn't know Canadian troops were fighting... my bad.

All I have is two words.

Fuck Canada.


Well, unless you are referring to the line from the "South Park Movie" and only for humorous contexts.... I'd say "fuck you frogger".

While others here have painted me as some kind of anti-canadian mongrel... I stated before I was pro-canada.. and I very much respect their culture and society. Hell, i have a canadian maple leaf as a tattoo on my left arm... I guess I just HATE canada and what it stands for.. right???

Only that you're a muttonhead -- and that takes no effort at all

.... does it make you feel better in your life to ridicule people in cyberspace based on ignorance? If so, I guess you can keep on calling me names, because I honestly could care less, and it shows much more about your maturity. Can i get an age check on Sedan?


.So your previous answer of "none" was more than a bit off the mark.

As I stated earlier in my post.. yep!

But you must be one of those who just walks between the rain drops now don't you.


It is indeed a praiseworthy number -- unless one of those is a friend or loved one.

Don't open up the bag of sympathy... people who are fighting are people who CHOSE to fight, and no matter how much you can't stand it, this war has caused tons less casualties than it's "vietnam brother"... didn't 50,000 die in Vietnam? What are we at now.. 4,000?


They weren't attacked but they are fighting and dying beside us anyway. Since they're fighting when they weren't attacked, isn't it pretty stupid to say they wouldn't fight if they were? Yes, it would be very stupid and that explains why it was you who said it.

hehe.. oh, I didn't know Sedan.. thanks for the know-how!:p

Besides my already respect for Canadians, and how glad I am to hear that they are indeed helping us fight... All that is left is your 2nd grade demeanor and obviously some personal problems. I can look up some numbers of psychologists in your area and PM them to you if you'd like.


I've read elsewhere that you are championing the cause of ignorance.

Good luck with that, you're the perfect man for the job.

*sigh*... wow, what a classy fellow... and the insults weren't even humorous, which to me is the only reason to throw them out to begin with. However, the bottom line is you took faulty assumptions about my posts and ran with them. Very irresponsible..

First, it's closer to 10%, not 1%. Given that the Canadian population is approximately 10% of the US population, they've sent as many troops per capita as we have -- a little more than a lunchbox-full.

You should be thanking them, not bitching about them.

Hey, that's GOOD. I'm GLAD to be wrong. I quite AM thanking them. I'm not bitching about them at all. I stand by my claim that they benefit from being on the border with us... but that's economically and perhaps militarily.

My question is, where is the media coverage of this? LOL

And another question... please get that age check back to me on Sedan as soon as possible... thank you.

Decka, you have always had such a wonderful way with words. :cool:

Decka, you have always had such a wonderful way with words. :cool:
And you have always had such a slippery grasp of the real issues.:bighug:

However, the bottom line is you took faulty assumptions about my posts and ran with them. Very irresponsible..Rubbish.

The bottom line here is that you made an extremely ignorant and insulting 'joke':

LOL maybe we should start taxing Canadians... and if they don't comply, we tell the terrorists that they shit all over the Qua'ran...

And when I asked you how many Canadians had died in Afghanistan you replied:

None.

So I asked you to do some research. Please note that I had not insulted you at all up to this point except to imply that I did not think your 'joke' was funny. This is when you decided to add more insult and injury to your previous insult and injury by disparaging the Canadians who died for you even further. To wit:

I don't see what you are trying to prove here Sedan.

So Canada did send troops over, probably 1% of what we did.. and they had more guys killed "percentage-wise" than we did. For all the guys we have over there, 487 deaths is a pretty freakin low number.

However, Canada would never declare war on Iraq/Iran/terrorists unless THEY were attacked. They haven't been, so they have no reason to send troops. They just send a lunchbox full to say that they helped.

Up to this point I had given you every opportunity to recognize your mistake and move on -- no insults. But when you decided it was more important for you to further diminish their sacrifice than it was for you to admit that you were wrong, that's when I decided to insult you in return. And I insulted you far less than you deserve.

Don't open up the bag of sympathy... people who are fighting are people who CHOSE to fight, and no matter how much you can't stand it, this war has caused tons less casualties than it's "vietnam brother"... didn't 50,000 die in Vietnam? What are we at now.. 4,000?

What a nice thing to say to him.

I would advise you to just get out of this thread before you piss off any more people.

Rubbish.

The bottom line here is that you made an extremely ignorant and insulting 'joke':

LOL maybe we should start taxing Canadians... and if they don't comply, we tell the terrorists that they shit all over the Qua'ran...

I didn't know that was insulting... i'll be sure to watch your reactions to posters who are much more insulting than I am... I would expect the same treatment.. but i'm not keeping my fingers crossed.

and it was just that... a "joke"... which means I don't really think that seriously..

And when I asked you how many Canadians had died in Afghanistan you replied:

None.

Yea, and I said I was wrong.

So I asked you to do some research. Please note that I had not insulted you at all up to this point except to imply that I did not think your 'joke' was funny.

true, keep going.

This is when you decided to add more insult and injury to your previous insult and injury by disparaging the Canadians who died for you even further. To wit:

I don't see what you are trying to prove here Sedan.

So Canada did send troops over, probably 1% of what we did.. and they had more guys killed "percentage-wise" than we did. For all the guys we have over there, 487 deaths is a pretty freakin low number.

However, Canada would never declare war on Iraq/Iran/terrorists unless THEY were attacked. They haven't been, so they have no reason to send troops. They just send a lunchbox full to say that they helped.

Up to this point I had given you every opportunity to recognize your mistake and move on -- no insults. But when you decided it was more important for you to further diminish their sacrifice than it was for you to admit that you were wrong, that's when I decided to insult you in return. And I insulted you far less than you deserve.

You replied with insults, not figures and facts. Other people gave me the 4-1-1 on what was up with Canada as far as their military aid.. but you did no such thing.

Go ahead and try to label me some ignorant, canadian hater. Even IF my initial remark was true, I still very much respect and enjoy canada. Like I said, I wouldn't have a red maple leaf on my left arm if i didn't like what it means... at least to me. You seem to think that I'm a war-monger who thinks that anybody who doesn't help in war is a wretched POS country... and you are wrong.

Bottom line... I think you blatantly misinterpreted my tone, you retorted with insults and no info, and I think you have many wrong impressions of me.

What a nice thing to say to him.

I would advise you to just get out of this thread before you piss off any more people.

I didn't say anything about him... and I don't see how reciting facts about Vietnam vs. the iraq war would piss anybody off.

I didn't say anything about him... and I don't see how reciting facts about Vietnam vs. the iraq war would piss anybody off.
Decka, he lost his daughter. Yep....one of the 'paltry' 4,000 was his own flesh and blood. He may feel just a bit differently than you do ; I mean, in light of your casual dismissal of our "losses" and all - maybe you should........oh, I dunno......can it?

Decka, he lost his daughter. Yep....one of the 'paltry' 4,000 was his own flesh and blood. He may feel just a bit differently than you do ; I mean, in light of your casual dismissal of our "losses" and all - maybe you should........oh, I dunno......can it?

And I'm supposed to know that how?

That is a horrid piece of information to learn, and my sympathy and prayers will go out to him and his family for their loss.

However, we ARE on a political message board. While I can imagine why it would be a touchy subject, maybe he should just not partake, and avoid things that are emotionally fragile, such as casualties at war time.

I don't think I can be blamed for anything here...

And I'm supposed to know that how?
Well, being that you're one of the few who frequent these fora, I figured that you'd have probably read one of the multiple threads that discussed it.
That is a horrid piece of information to learn, and my sympathy and prayers will go out to him and his family for their loss.
Hey, you didn't know. :) In light of that alone, he's probably not gonna hold it against ya.