Conservatives or Liberals?

http://www.economist.com/world/na/PrinterFriendly.cfm?story_id=10924082

So Republicans have been happier ever since Reagan began the war on the middle class.

What a shocker.... NOT!

Ignorance is bliss.

Quotes from Ahnold S. (http://www.yodasworld.org/id285.html)
"The public doesn't care about figures." -discussing his economic views

"Don't worry about that." -on the environment

So Republicans have been happier ever since Reagan began the war on the middle class.

What a shocker.... NOT!

How did Reagan do that.?
Ron rescued Americans from Jimmy Carter Stagflation.

In 2004 Americans who called themselves “conservative” or “very conservative” were nearly twice as likely to tell pollsters they were “very happy” as those who considered themselves “liberal” or “very liberal” (44% versus 25%). One might think this was because liberals were made wretched by George Bush. But the data show that American conservatives have been consistently happier than liberals for at least 35 years.

The study says that conservatives were happier well before Reagan.

In 2004 Americans who called themselves “conservative” or “very conservative” were nearly twice as likely to tell pollsters they were “very happy” as those who considered themselves “liberal”

In this country, I'd have thought it would be more on the order of 20 times as likely.

I doubt if many leftists in this country (not that leftists and 'liberals' have the same ideology) are in any sense "happy" to see our government doing what it's doing....waging wars, exporting terrorism, killing people, seeking power and control of oil through force.

All that bitching and moaning has to take a toll.

How did Reagan do that.?
Ron rescued Americans from Jimmy Carter Stagflation.

Yeah, those double digit mortgage rates during the Carter administration weren't particularly friendly to the middle class.

Yeah, those double digit mortgage rates during the Carter administration weren't particularly friendly to the middle class.

What was the foreclosure rate back then?

In this country, I'd have thought it would be more on the order of 20 times as likely.

I doubt if many leftists in this country (not that leftists and 'liberals' have the same ideology) are in any sense "happy" to see our government doing what it's doing....waging wars, exporting terrorism, killing people, seeking power and control of oil through force.

Conservatives are apparently pleased as punch to be associated with all that.

Hmmmm... would I rather be "happy" or retain my morals?

What was the foreclosure rate back then?

Yes,It was damn near impossible for a Middle Income wage earner
to even consider a Mortgage durin a Liberal A$$Klown like Carter's
Adm.
With far easier regulation and THE cheapest Mortgage rates in the
History of Lending,it was just a matter of time before Foreclosures
were imminent.
Blame a Partisan House {Congress} for Mandating an ease of regulatory
conditions,deemed previosly relevant to a sound housing market.
In conclusion,it's just a nutter example of how pitifull Liberal
Dimocrat approaches to the Housing Market,reaped doom.

The definition of "middle class" has changed also. 30 years ago "middle class" was maybe living in a 2000 sq.ft. house, today most people consider "middle class" to have homes in the 3000 sq.ft. to 5000 sq.ft range. I do believe people are better off today than 20 or 30 years ago. But at the same time, people in the 1950's and 1960's probably lived within their means - there were still memories of the Great Depression. Today, its all debt debt debt. Don't blame the politicians. Blame yourselves.

Over the last 4 years, if people didn't keep re-financing their homes and taken the money out of the "false" equity and spending it on crap like jet-skis and atvs, they wouldn't be in this mess. If they had taken the money out and put it in some investments instead, they wouldn't be in this mess.

Drive in any "middle class" neighborhoods these days and that's what you see in the garage and driveway - jetskis, atvs, boats, and other crap they bought by taking the equity out of their home! Now they are in negative equity. People are better off but at the same time everyone is overspending!

Conservatives are apparently pleased as punch to be associated with all that.

Oh, absolutely!

They actively WANT the government to do it.

It's all a part of this image they have of themselves as macho, heroic, Big Bad Amuuuuricans.

It's truly sad that so many millions around the world are forced to live in constant fear of the planetary bully, and suffer having wars waged against them just to satisfy the pathological lust of the RightWing for money, power and control.



Hmmmm... would I rather be "happy" or retain my morals?[/QUOTE]

Oh, absolutely!

They actively WANT the government to do it.

It's all a part of this image they have of themselves as macho, heroic, Big Bad Amuuuuricans.

It's truly sad that so many millions around the world are forced to live in constant fear of the planetary bully, and suffer having wars waged against them just to satisfy the pathological lust of the RightWing for money, power and control.


I think this goes back to what I have said before about conservative vs liberal morality. Liberals are concerned with public morality, about what we are doing as a society. Cons are concerned with individual morality, so as long as they are not personally doing anything wrong, they don't see a problem with the actions of our government.

Ignorance really is bliss.

Politically I can't call myself anything but a moderate. I'd also call myself very happy. My life is great; I can't complain. :)

What was the foreclosure rate back then?

I wouldn't be surprised if it was lower, since you couldn't even get a mortgage without a 20% downpayment. So nowadays you can get a house without having to put as much down, but I suspect it causes more foreclosures. I guess the question is whether you think that's good or bad. Personally, I didn't have a 20% downpayment until I bought my third house, so it was of great benefit to me. Then again, I can budget my money.

Politically I can't call myself anything but a moderate.

Same here.


I'd also call myself very happy. My life is great; I can't complain. :)

Same here, my life is great, but if you ask me about the state of our country I can find a lot wrong.