Moderators,

I'm sick and tired of good topics being pushed to other pages due to one poster that I will not name (okay, Mr. Shaman) that decides to spam the forum with tons of ridiculus subjects. Can we do something about this please? This reminds me too much of Tentmaker's hay day!!!

Under our rules:

No posting irrelevant information

Mr. Shaman has started numerous threads, each with a different title, but all basically stating his opinion that he dislikes President Bush. Can this not be under one topic, thereby reducing his spam? This would also keep more interesting subjects closer to the top of our forum, topics that most of our posters are much more interested in. And yes, our posters are not interested in Mr. Shaman's propaganda. This can easily be seen by how many replies his topics get, and then compare that number to ANY of the other topics, started by ANY of the other posters.

Let's stop this trend now, please!

Spam spam spam spam, spam spam spamity spam!

Without naming anyone, there have been times that I wanted to banish some from AllForums. While it does appear that Mr. Shaman bends the rules, IMHO he has not yet completely crossed the line. Now, should another moderator or administrator decide differently, then that's fine by me. The way to keep your topics in the forefront is to post regularly. Place the individual who offends you on "ignore", at least then you'll be spared the tedium of reading the posts. Eventually the offending party gets the message, when their posts are not responded to, and they go elsewhere, as Tent did.

Originally posted by es347fan
Without naming anyone, there have been times that I wanted to banish some from AllForums. While it does appear that Mr. Shaman bends the rules, IMHO he has not yet completely crossed the line. Now, should another moderator or administrator decide differently, then that's fine by me. The way to keep your topics in the forefront is to post regularly. Place the individual who offends you on "ignore", at least then you'll be spared the tedium of reading the posts. Eventually the offending party gets the message, when their posts are not responded to, and they go elsewhere, as Tent did.
Indeed. Tent eventually got bored and wandered off after people stopped replying to him. That's what trolls do, they try to get responses. Ignore it and it will go away.

I don't think he's crossed the line either. Besides, anything we do to him will just cause him to declare victory and leave with the smug knowledge that he thinks he's our intellectual superior.

Originally posted by Karankawa
Moderators,

I'm sick and tired of good topics being pushed to other pages due to one poster that I will not name (okay, Mr. Shaman) that decides to spam the forum with tons of ridiculus subjects. Can we do something about this please? This reminds me too much of Tentmaker's hay day!!!
It's still spelled r-i-d-i-c-u-l-o-u-s, pbman.

It's a good thing you never tried c-e-n-s-o-r-s-h-i-p! That would have really been amusing!!

That's your last, desperate option, huh? I'm kickin'-your-butt (dispelling your right-wing rhetoric) in all the other forums, where we participate, but you pick this one to ban me?? I guess that's pretty-much because this is the only forum where people don't laugh at your whacked-out/immature excuses for logic!

Originally posted by Mr. Shaman
It's still spelled r-i-d-i-c-u-l-o-u-s, pbman.

It's a good thing you never tried c-e-n-s-o-r-s-h-i-p! That would have really been amusing!!

That's your last, desperate option, huh? I'm kickin'-your-butt (dispelling your right-wing rhetoric) in all the other forums, where we participate, but you pick this one to ban me?? I guess that's pretty-much because this is the only forum where people don't laugh at your whacked-out/immature excuses for logic!
No, we laugh at yours. At your lack of anything resembling an opinion (except Bush = bad, which I may agree with but I can at least defend my opinions on.), at you annoying "LOL!!!!!!!!!!!", at the fact that you insult Karan for his supposed "right wing rhetoric" when in fact most don't consider Karan some right-wing nut. You are, in fact, what I despise: one who is the reason Trav hates liberals: you insult us for not backing up our arguments with links, when your links are some biased sources. I wouldn't be surprised if you backed up your arguments with links to the Democratic Underground. You give liberals a bad name. Get a clue.

Originally posted by Mr. Shaman
I'm kickin'-your-butt

See, told ya.

Lmao, kickin my butt!? I guess you have proclaimed yourself the victor simply because you found a spelling error? Whatever man. I have yet to see you post one original idea in any of your posts. So far, all they consist of is links to sites for idiots. I've quit looking because it is all mindless drivel. Let me know when you have something to say that consists of more than 2 sentences, and I'll read it and let you know what I think. In the meantime, keep watching my posts, and see if you can catch me making another spelling error. I'll try to leave one for you so you can tell everyone how smart you are. ;)

After further thought, don't even bother. Adding you to my ignore list. Say hello to Tentmaker if you two should ever meet.

Gee, in other forums I've been to, included links are much appreciated!


But then, no buddy ever clicked on any mafia links yet...

Ya could end up in a Hoffa-gallon drum...

;)

*whistles and looks around at the posts*

Shaman - although your posts are a bit questionable- ie nothing to say & just a link machine, you are entitled to post your links so long as it doesn't disprupt the board. So far I don't think you've disprupted the board.

I would ask you to be a bit sensible about it - engage in debate - yes it'll still get heated but at least it will be more interesting

I hope I never have to travel all the way to some frigic arctic wasteland in order to find folks who truly appreciate the value of...




...HEATED conversations... Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!



Censorship here on THIS site???? Nah! We fellow push-and-shovers don't ALLOW talk like that! (I hope...)

;)

Oops, did I notice a... frigid... stare at that "frigic" typo?

I nearly froze as I noticed it...


Sorry! :(

Odder i dont like everything you say, but i do like your style. Very original.

Thanks, Havok, that wuz kind of you to say...



Toodles, I gotta go now...

:)

Originally posted by In Odder Words
I hope I never have to travel all the way to some frigic arctic wasteland in order to find folks who truly appreciate the value of...




...HEATED conversations... Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!



Censorship here on THIS site???? Nah! We fellow push-and-shovers don't ALLOW talk like that! (I hope...)

;)

There are plenty of heated conversations here. We don't share the same views on some subjects (perhaps on others we do) - but that's fine. The very big difference between your posts & Shamans is - you actually have an opinion that you can articulate and explain, Shaman on the other hand just has stupid quips plus links. It takes nothing to post a link. If I took away his ability to post links for a while then he would basically wither away because so far he has said nothing.

Originally posted by DrewM
If I took away his ability to post links for a while then he would basically wither away because so far he has said nothing.
I wonder if there's a vB mod to suspend vB code for a user...it's certainly a good idea to try it out, Drew, if one exists! ;)

Originally posted by DrewM
.....you actually have an opinion that you can articulate and explain, Shaman on the other hand just has stupid quips plus links. It takes nothing to post a link.

......Yet, it so-effectively rubs-your-nose in the rhetoric, upon which you rely (in lieu of any original-thought).

Not to worry! I do enjoy the Limbaugh-like spittin'-and-sputterin'/fussin'-and-foamin' you provide!!:D

It doesn't rub my nose in anything - your posts are just plain boring to me and it seems to others also. How could they be interesting? You don't say anything !

In 173 posts I don't think you have made 1 single point - I guess you have time on your hands to waste because you seem to love wasting your time posting links here. You are just one of lifes inffective people it seems - except for being a link researcher - you have a special talent for mundane things like that :)

Actually - I did like the CIA leak was due to Clinton's penis link - that was a great one. You can stay if you keep searching out those links - good job !

It would appear ya like linked stories about the days when

Clinton... grew in office, Drew?

:D



By the way, wuz it less than a week ago when every buddy on this site (includin' this forum?) were givin' each other their warmest regards? D'ya s'pose KateHuang checked her POLITICAL TRANSLATION texts and maybe saw somethin' like this?


"Warmest regards" = "Roast in Hell!"


Globally yers til next time, my fellow push-and-shovers! ;)

Well DrewM, if it makes you feel any better, in shammy's last post, he didn't post a link to a god-awful website...sure the lame and pointless remarks were still there, but at least he's made some kind of progress.......................................... ...................right?

Originally posted by DrewM
Actually - I did like the CIA leak was due to Clinton's penis link - that was a great one. You can stay if you keep searching out those links - good job !

Yeah.........you always seem the type that enjoys sophomoric-humor.:p

I'm glad ta see ya tryin' ta humor... Drew, Mr Shaman!




Of course, I ALSO try my BEST, much to other's chaGRIN...

:D

Bringing this thread back. I'm frustrated with being forced to read through a bunch of nonsense in order to read a good post. Isn't there something we can do to limit certain posters?

If you look in the rules, there is a rule that states there is to be no irrelevant information. Don't you guys think some of the posters on here post irrelevant information?

I only bring this up because it is a lot of work to have to read through the stupid posts just to hear a few good ones. I wish we could do something to limit some of the nutzy posts. You know the ones I'm talking about, I think.

Actually, Shaman has proven a point. While he may overdue it, slightly, with the number of is posts...it seems to me that most of the responses to his comments are, for the most part, personal attacks on him, rather than a dissenting view or a debating point.

It seems to me that the side on the right, on this forum, have very little to respond to as most of the comments by Shaman, and others from that side, usually speak to the facts as they have been reported, but the opposing side usually responds with a personal attack, or some reference to the previous administration, which has no bearing on present day.

It is commonly knwn that in an attempted debate,, when one person has no ammunition to back up their side, and the other side has gained points, they usually being the frontal, personal attack.....thinking that they can ward off their opponent with those type of attacks....

But, int he end, when it's all over, theyusually lose and then find that they have no where to hide except under the nearest rock.

Originally posted by Karankawa
Bringing this thread back. I'm frustrated with being forced to read through a bunch of nonsense in order to read a good post. Isn't there something we can do to limit certain posters?

If you look in the rules, there is a rule that states there is to be no irrelevant information. Don't you guys think some of the posters on here post irrelevant information?

I only bring this up because it is a lot of work to have to read through the stupid posts just to hear a few good ones. I wish we could do something to limit some of the nutzy posts. You know the ones I'm talking about, I think.

What may be irrelevant to you may, in fact, be relevant to someone else, and visa versa.

If there is something you find irrelevant, then don't read it or, if you do, don't respond.

I don't think that is too difficult to do...or, as someone else suggested, invoke your "ignore" button.

Unfortunatley, contrary to what it seems like you would prefer, there ARE two sides to every story, sometimes three, your side, my side and the truth right in between the two.

BTW, how do I get my age listed under my screen name on the left side?

I'll give shaman credit for one thing ... (s)he sure knows how to push peoples buttons. LMAO.

Dop

Originally posted by Lungdop Philing
I'll give shaman credit for one thing ... (s)he sure knows how to push peoples buttons. LMAO.

Dop
I learned (long ago) to give both sides (of any issue) equal-consideration.

Unfortunately, the present-day new-Patriotism doesn't allow for such aberant-behavior.......but, it keeps me occupied!!!!!:D

Originally posted by NEM
BTW, how do I get my age listed under my screen name on the left side?
Edit your profile to include your birthday.

Originally posted by Mr. Shaman
I learned (long ago) to give both sides (of any issue) equal-consideration.

Oh yeah, right. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Edit your profile to include your birthday.

I tried that, it didn't work. I will try again.

Moderators,

I'm guessing that by your actions, it would be perfectly legal for me to start 12, 14, 20 seperate threads that are anti-Democrat. I'm guessing this because there are easily that many threads that are anti-Bush right now. Almost all of them are complete nonsense from the same 2 posters.

Is this really what we want this forum to become? A big spam fest where we start several seperate threads that each basically say the same thing?

Wake up moderators. You are about to ruin our forum. If nothing is done, my next step will be to fight fire with fire and dig up 10 articles every day and post them too.

ARE YOU BLIND?

Ignore list, if you don't like it. Nothing truly redundant has been posted yet...and you are free to become Shaman Jr. if you want. Don't be surprised if you become more hated than the original, though.

Originally posted by Karankawa
Moderators,

I'm guessing that by your actions, it would be perfectly legal for me to start 12, 14, 20 seperate threads that are anti-Democrat. I'm guessing this because there are easily that many threads that are anti-Bush right now. Almost all of them are complete nonsense from the same 2 posters.

Is this really what we want this forum to become? A big spam fest where we start several seperate threads that each basically say the same thing?

Wake up moderators. You are about to ruin our forum. If nothing is done, my next step will be to fight fire with fire and dig up 10 articles every day and post them too.

ARE YOU BLIND?

Correct me if I am wrong, but is the name of this forum "POLITICS" or is it "Republicans Only?"

If you cant's stand the heat, as Harry Truman once said, get out of the kitchen.

Post all you want. That's what it's all abnout, isn't it.

What the hell more would you expect. This is a presidential election year, isn't it?




Is that politics, or not?

you are sounding like a little cry baby who wants to take his balland bat and go home because he is losing the game.

Apparently, the moderators that run this board agree with you. I guess the best way to make a point on this board is to post a bunch of trash. The more often you do it, the more you can claim that you are "winning the game."

Originally posted by Karankawa
Apparently, the moderators that run this board agree with you. I guess the best way to make a point on this board is to post a bunch of trash. The more often you do it, the more you can claim that you are "winning the game."

I would suggest you take a tour of ALL the political messageboards on the intenet. You will find, in my opinion, that they are the most widely visited and the most widely used of ALL messageboards .

So, if you think it's trash, might I suggest you go and try some messageboards in FAIRYLAND. Those would be much more suited to your liking, IMO of course.

Moderators,

It is evident that our political forum has become a jungle and is out of control. We need a new rule. We need to be able to ban certain posters from this forum. I am not even saying that I should be able to choose who would be banned. I trust in the moderators' common sense on this, because it seems pretty obvious. Most of our regular posters have left this arena because it has fallen badly. I, myself, find that there is too much trash here to even bother reading posts anymore. I believe you will find that this forum's stock is falling quickly, and is becoming more like a shouting frenzy. I hate to see this happening to this forum, where we had, for several months, a place where we could argue and talk politics reasonably. Is this not something that we all want?

Presently we do have a few boneheads who are showering the boards with repetitive B S. I strongly suggest to anyone offended by these boneheads to merely add their screen names to their own ignore list, and to stop responding to the boneheads in any way. The ignore list will remove their posts from your sight. Eventually the loss of audience will have its' desired effect and they will leave. This has worked with other boneheads.

It is not the moderator's job to censor speech.

Originally posted by es347fan
.....repetitive B S. ???????

I thought that was the-hip-thing-to-do, presently??????? (http://www.pantsonfire.net/) :eek:

That's what you get for thinking.

It always seems like the ones who are losing want to shut up the ones who are winning.

Originally posted by NEM
It always seems like the ones who are losing want to shut up the ones who are winning.

No, I think they were talking about shutting you up.

But I have to agree with ES, I don't think banning is the right answer. It smacks of censorship. Yeah, it would be nice if Shaman and NEM didn't start 3 new "George Bush is a poopy head" threads every day, but of course we don't have to respond (hint, hint).

Originally posted by es347fan
Presently we do have a few boneheads who are showering the boards with repetitive B S. I strongly suggest to anyone offended by these boneheads to merely add their screen names to their own ignore list, and to stop responding to the boneheads in any way. The ignore list will remove their posts from your sight. Eventually the loss of audience will have its' desired effect and they will leave. This has worked with other boneheads.

It is not the moderator's job to censor speech.
Well said, es.

Originally posted by LionelHutz
No, I think they were talking about shutting you up.

But I have to agree with ES, I don't think banning is the right answer. It smacks of censorship. Yeah, it would be nice if Shaman and NEM didn't start 3 new "George Bush is a poopy head" threads every day, but of course we don't have to respond (hint, hint).

George Bush is a poopy head? Now you tell me.:D

And here i just thought he was a simple asshole.

I do have them on my ignore list, but still, I have to look at their stupid titles. And if I was new to this board, I would have turned my nose up at the ignorance and left. I believe both liberals and conservatives alike would turn their nose up at the ignorance that is spewing on this forum right now. I would rethink my strategy if I were in charge, but that's just me.

You guys do have a good point about censorship. I wouldn't want to prohibit them from saying what's on their minds. Could we start a forum for the ignorants posts perhaps? Since their threads are basically the same material over and over, perhaps we could have a thread dedicated to the presidential race, and we could move them over there.

Or hey, what about this: make a new forum called the Nem/Shaman forum. They would be restricted to using this forum only, of course. But they could write whatever they wanted, and people could visit them there, if they liked. :)

Originally posted by Karankawa
I would rethink my strategy if I were in charge, but that's just me.
Yeah......you & George Bush!!!!

"Gov. Bush said to a Dallas Morning Star reporter at a press conference May 22, 1999, "There ought to be limits to freedom [of speech]." :rolleyes: