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Leper
12-20-2003, 02:43 AM
Just got out of this movie. Not terrible, but boy was it long! And I don't remember Tolkien being that friggin' sappy. By the end of the movie, I wouldn't have been surprised if Frodo bent Sam over a couch without any warning at any moment. I have to say, I find myself happy that the ordeal is over.....then again, I remember that easily being the worst book of the trilogy.
Just a couple of notes, keep an eye out for scenes reminiscent of the Empire Strikes Back and the Wizard of Oz.
5/10
Sellout Theory
12-22-2003, 10:26 AM
I havnt seen the movie yet. The first one was ok. The second one I fell asleep in, and that makes me not want to go see the 3rd.
Is there alot of action in it, cus I like the action scenes in LOTR
SNLwannabe
12-23-2003, 04:30 PM
I loved that movie so much!!
Sellout Theory
12-24-2003, 01:46 PM
If the action is really good, then its worth the money to rent for me
nathanlandis
01-07-2004, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by Leper
I don't remember Tolkien being that friggin' sappy.5/10
Well, Tolkien wasn't really graphic in emotional aspects; that's where the movie comes in. I thought they did a really good job.
Mopoloton
01-09-2004, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by Sellout Theory
I havnt seen the movie yet. The first one was ok. The second one I fell asleep in, and that makes me not want to go see the 3rd.
Is there alot of action in it, cus I like the action scenes in LOTR
If you like action then why on earth did you fall asleep during the second one? That’s ALL it was.
I liked the way the last one followed the original story so closely, right down to Frodo getting his finger bitten off.
Sellout Theory
01-09-2004, 10:52 PM
The second one was only action towards the end. And a little in the middle but not enough to keep my awake
Blibblob
01-10-2004, 04:42 PM
Mopo, but they removed the entire end of the damn book! AND, no Wormtounge! They could have cut out all of the homosexual sections with Frodo lyin on Sam, and all of the unneeded blabbing, and added in the weed trade that Sauroman was doing!... Don't forget the coolest character in the last book, Wormtounge :D. It was almost as much as a letdown as the first movie, with no Bombadil.(I don't consider any of this a spoiler...)
URNowLex'd
01-11-2004, 06:02 PM
i have to admit that we burned a spliff before we went in, so the first about hour and a half was tight :) But it was so damn long i was too burned out to completely absorb and enjoy the rest. From what i remember though it was definitly worth seeing, definitly.
Leper
01-16-2004, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by Blibblob
Mopo, but they removed the entire end of the damn book! AND, no Wormtounge! They could have cut out all of the homosexual sections with Frodo lyin on Sam, and all of the unneeded blabbing, and added in the weed trade that Sauroman was doing!... Don't forget the coolest character in the last book, Wormtounge :D. It was almost as much as a letdown as the first movie, with no Bombadil.(I don't consider any of this a spoiler...)
I actually liked the first movie. Face it, Bombadil, while an interesting curiosity, was a distraction and should have been edited from the book.
immortal
02-02-2004, 11:34 AM
Is it as good as they say it is? I want to see it but I think I will wait til it comes out on video first.
Loose Tea
03-03-2004, 02:03 AM
begging your pardon, but all that emotion was written in by tolkien himself. if you want to call it sappy that's your business.
"Yet suddenly for Faramir his heart was strangely moved with a feeling that he had not known before...He knew now why Beregond spoke his name with love. He was a captain that men would follow, that he would follow, even under the shadow of the black wings." III, 101
"Then suddenly he beheld his sister Eowyn as she lay, and he knew her. He stood a moment as a man who is pierced in the midst of a cry by an arrow through the heart; and then his face went deathly white, and a cold fury rose in him, so that all speech failed him for a while." III, 145
Leper
03-04-2004, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by Loose Tea
begging your pardon, but all that emotion was written in by tolkien himself. if you want to call it sappy that's your business.
"Yet suddenly for Faramir his heart was strangely moved with a feeling that he had not known before...He knew now why Beregond spoke his name with love. He was a captain that men would follow, that he would follow, even under the shadow of the black wings." III, 101
"Then suddenly he beheld his sister Eowyn as she lay, and he knew her. He stood a moment as a man who is pierced in the midst of a cry by an arrow through the heart; and then his face went deathly white, and a cold fury rose in him, so that all speech failed him for a while." III, 145
Lol, Lord of the Rings is not the Bible, guy.
Well, I must have changed between reading the books and watching the movie because I was nauseated 80% of the movie and almost never when I read the books.
Loose Tea
03-05-2004, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by Leper
Lol, Lord of the Rings is not the Bible, guy.
hehe, that's how you're supposed to quote it. since i studied it in school, i tend to use that notation.
undercoverlover
03-26-2004, 12:03 PM
i loved the trilogy except the first one i thought that sucked a$$, i saw the third one at the prince's trust premiere in london for my 16th birthday, it was amazing, i thought the film was great but it dragged on massively. A lot of people said sheelob was this humongous spider but arragog in harry potter was much bigger
BorgHunter
03-26-2004, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by undercoverlover
A lot of people said sheelob was this humongous spider but arragog in harry potter was much bigger
I don't think Tolkein was thinking of how big spiders in Harry Potter would be when he wrote the six LOTR books.
WhammyBar
03-26-2004, 11:00 PM
I saw the movies and liked them without readin the book (please, nobody kill me). I liked them, but the last one should have neded about a half hour before it did. my ass hurt after sitting in the theatre for three and a half hours.
undercoverlover
03-27-2004, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by BorgHunter
I don't think Tolkein was thinking of how big spiders in Harry Potter would be when he wrote the six LOTR books.
obviously but in the film it didn't seem all that huge and i heard from people who'd read the book it was some ginormous spider
muad_dib
03-30-2004, 07:29 PM
I thought it was an absolutely incredible movie. Better action than the Two Towers and better story than Fellowship. The ending may have been long but who are you going to cut out. I think it all had to be there. I can't wait for the extended edition DVD so I can see the scenes with Saruman and Wormtongue.
Victorian Rose
03-30-2004, 09:35 PM
For the most part I liked Return of the King. However, I did think that the opening scene with Gollum was a little out of sequence, like it was just thrown in there. Personally, I thought that they should have started where they left off in Two Towers, with Gandolf's line about the battle for Helm's Deep being over, but the battle for Middle Earth about to start. Anyway, I can't wait for the Extended DVD to come out so I can see the new scenes.
undercoverlover
03-31-2004, 12:33 PM
yeah the extended scenes will be so good, im waiting for the collectors editions with every extra you can think of on it. Like all the scenes with boromir and faramir, wormtongue and all that stuff
Dio Seijuro
03-31-2004, 02:50 PM
The grand battle scene (30+ minutes!) in this movie is probably the best large scale action sequence ever produced in film history. (many critics say "easily") It is understandable if you didn't like the film because of its length or some of the quieter parts, but you will likely love the action sequence. I will advise against skipping theater and wait for DVD unless u have plasma TV with great sound system. Seem a bit late to say this now...:p
I didn't read the books but I thought the movies were very good .The only thing is that the third was already too long they should have ended it right after the hobbits were making a toast at the shire, and skipped all of that other crappy fluff. That is what turned me from thinking this movie was great to being alright.
undercoverlover
04-01-2004, 01:04 PM
i think the ending dragged on massively, this was probably fine for the book but it needed a real movie type ending and i thought it was gonna end with the last look over the map of middle earth, then i thought it was gonna end with the ship sailing into the sunset but no it dragged it out for about a million years
Victorian Rose
04-06-2004, 09:23 PM
Even though the movie ending was long they still didn't do the whole ending that was in the book. The Hobbits were suppose to be involved in another small battle on reaching the Shire. And there were even more endings in the appendixes.
Pepper
04-08-2004, 01:01 PM
The books are much better.
This movie sucked. I was very disappointed.
undercoverlover
04-08-2004, 03:30 PM
in what way were you disappointed, i thought as film translations go this one was quite good
Pepper
04-08-2004, 03:50 PM
Really? I thought it was typical hollywood tripe. The language and the beauty of tolkiens books were trivialized to appeal to the widest audience possible.
On Aragorn I always got the impression that he was much smarter (and older). He knew his destiny, he knew the paths he had to take, and his place in them, the movie led him around like a puppy.
On Samwise. Galadriel felt the temptation of the ring, as did Samwise (if you read the book), in the movie it was too easy where was the struggle? Given the strong impulse of the ring, i felt his dealing with it was inconsistant with the way everyone else acted when presented with the ring of power.
On Sarumon: "he must never be allowed to leave this tower" and that was that. BLeh, where's the battle for the Shire? Where's Merry and Pippin kicking some bandit butt?
The evil orges and how they had to give them personality. There's always one big baddie who has to take the big goodie. The baddie is always cockie and has to say stuff like "leave him to me, or Kill them all" And of course dies some really weird and trivial way. Haven't we seen this dynamic before?
On gollum and the sandwhich incident. What the heck was this about? The whole scene was uncessessary.
Too many battle scenes (no blood might I add), not enough drama, or even character development. I felt like I was playing a game more then watching an epic story. The imagery of the book is much more vivid, and enduring then what was offered on the screen.
undercoverlover
04-10-2004, 07:43 AM
yeah i get the samwise thing, how come he never felt the pull of the ring before then? he was in close proximity to it all the time
flamencochic
06-30-2004, 02:13 PM
I saw Return of the King when I was in San Francisco for Christmas. I didn't enjoy it as much as I could have because I spent the entire movie waiting to be disappointed. Which by the way, I never was. I kept thinking it was going to be like the Matrix trilogy. Each one progressively worse. In my opinion it was the opposite. Each one was progressively better. It deserved all of the awards it received and then some.