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Imp
03-22-2008, 01:07 PM
http://cdsweb.cern.ch/collection/Photos

- 20-year work-in-progress
- A team of 7,000 physicists from more than 80 nations
- 27 kilometers in circumference, 175 meters underground
- facilitating head-on collision of protons, traveling very near the speed-of-light
- each tunnel is big enough to run a train through it.
- temperatures generated: more than 1000,000 times hotter than the sun's core
- superconducting magnets are cooled to a temperature colder than in deep space

Scheduled to begin operation in May 2008.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/tormented/21636181726e7d2ec0ddojk0.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/tormented/0712010_04-A4-at-144-dpi9.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CERN


and more...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A2754623



I'm impressed.

BorgHunter
03-22-2008, 01:17 PM
The LHC is going to take over the title as "world's most powerful accelerator" soon after it goes into operation, taking the title from Fermilab's Tevatron. What's sad is that the title should have been taken over six or seven years ago, by a little thing called the Superconducting Super Collider in Waxahachie, Texas. That project was canceled due to lack of funding.

mikezila
03-22-2008, 01:31 PM
that's just bigger-this is a whole new world (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_European_Torus).

Canadianreader
03-22-2008, 08:31 PM
I'm trying to figure out how much copper was used to build it.

mikezila
03-23-2008, 12:00 AM
I'm trying to figure out how much copper was used to build it.
lots

Phyrex
03-23-2008, 12:09 AM
You guys ever read Angels and Demons? Whenever I hear about CERN that book automatically pops into my head, lol.

Anyways, that accelerator is bad ass indeed.

Imp
03-23-2008, 12:33 AM
You guys ever read Angels and Demons? Whenever I hear about CERN that book automatically pops into my head, lol.

Anyways, that accelerator is bad ass indeed.

Funny you made that co-relation, Phyrex.

From what I read and understand, they have built it so we will be able to go 'back' to the beginning of time and show us the moment 'just after' the big bang within a controlled environment.


Protons will be accelerated until they collide head on at the speed of light. Every second, 800 million collisions will occur. As they fragment, a magnetic field filters out the detector and filters out different types of matter.


Opening the door to 'unseen worlds' besides us, otherwise known as other dimensions.

If they are real, they can reveal them.

If effective, a black hole could occur at high enough energies.

These black holes can grow dragging everything into them.

They say they will evaporate as soon as they are created so they wouldn't devour the earth.

Relax folks.

Instead of destroying the earth, these scientists hope to answer the ultimate question, by going back they hope to come up with the explanation of 'everything'. To see how the simplicities then evolved into the complexities they are today. Who we are and how we were made.

Simply put, it will end any fights over the 'big bang' theory or the truths of religions. Did a god create it all? or was it a result of a collision of protons by chance.

It may very well prove religion as debunk.

LHC PART 1-3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fJ6PMfnz2E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQNPpeVvZ9w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XbKZwXK-3c

DarkFantasy96
03-23-2008, 12:52 AM
Angels and Demons was a great book... The DaVinci Code was just a huge letdown after that...

Phyrex
03-23-2008, 03:23 AM
Naw Imp, if they were to make a black hole in there, it would last all of a nano second, be microscopic, and it wouldn't be powerful enough to draw any matter in.

es347fan
03-23-2008, 08:05 AM
... These black holes can grow dragging everything into them.


They say they will evaporate as soon as they are created so they wouldn't devour the earth. ...


First thing that comes to mind when reading that is the Wump Bird. Ever heard of that? It's a little bird, bright in color, flies in ever decreasing circles at an ever increasing speed until it flies up its' own ass. Wump!



:woohoo:

Imp
03-23-2008, 09:42 AM
First thing that comes to mind when reading that is the Wump Bird. Ever heard of that? It's a little bird, bright in color, flies in ever decreasing circles at an ever increasing speed until it flies up its' own ass. Wump!


:woohoo:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/tormented/smileys/biglaugh.gif I've heard of it before, from you, and laughed my ass off then too. hahahahah. I love the visual.

paulc
03-23-2008, 11:02 AM
Whats the dangers of something going wrong there and fucken the planet ?

BorgHunter
03-23-2008, 01:06 PM
Whats the dangers of something going wrong there and fucken the planet ?
IT'S NEW AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT EVERYBODY PANIC!!!

mikezila
03-23-2008, 01:15 PM
Whats the dangers of something going wrong there and fucken the planet ?
either none of us will know what hit us, or the europeons will get it 1st. either way works for me:banana:

Napsterbater
03-23-2008, 01:16 PM
Very little, paul. Astronomically (literally!) tiny.

mikezila
03-23-2008, 01:17 PM
IT'S NEW AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT EVERYBODY PANIC!!!
panic at the disco?:woohoo:

sedan
03-23-2008, 11:16 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/tormented/21636181726e7d2ec0ddojk0.jpg
My new desktop wallpaper. :)

paulc
03-24-2008, 02:45 AM
either none of us will know what hit us, or the europeons will get it 1st. either way works for me:banana:

I think theres one in France, on a smaller scale tho.

Dio Seijuro
03-24-2008, 08:55 AM
Is the chance bigger or smaller than me being killed by a meteor in the next 24 hours?

MeskDXB
03-24-2008, 09:40 PM
In which year was the construction of our supercollider stopped?

mikezila
03-24-2008, 10:56 PM
In which year was the construction of our supercollider stopped?
our's? 1993 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider#Cancellation)

Imp
03-24-2008, 11:15 PM
Let's hope he got this right Dio...

haha, I'm sure they know what they are doing. If not, it's been good and all that jazz.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/tormented/000401701ui4.jpg

Napsterbater
03-26-2008, 01:50 AM
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/large_hadron_collider.png (http://xkcd.com/401/)

DarkFantasy96
03-26-2008, 04:01 PM
What's funny is that I'm rereading Dan Brown's Angels and Demons right now...

MeskDXB
03-26-2008, 08:39 PM
our's? 1993 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider#Cancellation)

too bad we lost out on it due to bad budget management and good ole' politics!

smartmouthwoman
03-27-2008, 08:32 AM
too bad we lost out on it due to bad budget management and good ole' politics!

We did end up with a big ole empty hole in the ground not far from my house, though. Wonder what they ever did with that thing?

paulc
03-27-2008, 05:36 PM
We did end up with a big ole empty hole in the ground not far from my house, though. Wonder what they ever did with that thing?

In Texas they simply dig a hole and fill up the first one-problem solved.

mikezila
03-27-2008, 09:23 PM
We did end up with a big ole empty hole in the ground not far from my house, though. Wonder what they ever did with that thing?
they filled the $2 BILLION hole back in.

Phyrex
03-29-2008, 09:33 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,342854,00.html

Seems some people don't want this thing to go forward for fear of sucking us all into a blackhole, lol.

mikezila
03-29-2008, 09:43 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,342854,00.html

Seems some people don't want this thing to go forward for fear of sucking us all into a blackhole, lol.
if that's the worst that can happen, i say throw some more bucks at it! then the SS trust fund going under won't matter, and we won't feel a thing!:woohoo:

Imp
03-30-2008, 11:38 AM
if that's the worst that can happen, i say throw some more bucks at it! then the SS trust fund going under won't matter, and we won't feel a thing!:woohoo:


:D

Imp
03-30-2008, 11:42 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,342854,00.html

Seems some people don't want this thing to go forward for fear of sucking us all into a blackhole, lol.

Yup, here's another link I found.

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/27/823924.aspx

From what I've read, any minut black hole created would die out just as quickly as it was made, but there is always that tiny sliver of uncertainty which keeps me hoping.

Nothing more ironic then searching for the answers of 'the big bang' theory: then going out in one during the process of it.